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Old Jan 1, 2016, 12:50 am
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Originally Posted by williamdw
That's a good point, and something I omitted from my update. I got a little frustrated with their crazy ideas on how to get out of BOI (BOI>SEA>PHX>LAX was their best suggestion) that I decided I would get myself to LAX under my own steam.

In retrospect, I really should have posted that as part of the update, as it does of course have an effect on how easy/hard it is. My focus was on the expensive legs because those are (in my mind) the hard parts.. doing the shuttle hop to LA is so cheap and common to me that I sort of blanked it out as an actual step!

Gah!

After all that drama, AA just updated their website for 2016 to allow 200k miles per year instead of 150k (the 2015 limit) for purchase.

Assuming the sale continues as promised to Jan 4 (the site is down for updates now) with the same bonus structure, then 200k would net a 140k bonus (150k got you 115k as of last night, so I'm assuming 200k would scale as well upwards).

I may have been better off just waiting until 2016, although of course there was no way to know that in advance.

It's almost as if AA is trying to make money off of us by keeping things opaque


I thought you had to wait until 2016 to buy miles, because you opened your AAdvantage account too late to be able to buy miles in 2015.
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by williamdw
Gah!
Assuming the sale continues as promised to Jan 4 (the site is down for updates now) with the same bonus structure, then 200k would net a 140k bonus (150k got you 115k as of last night, so I'm assuming 200k would scale as well upwards).
Unless the promo changes, I doubt 200K will net a bonus of 140K. Rather, my guess would be you get 115K for purchasing at least 150K.
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 9:54 am
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I flew early yesterday morning to get the last miles I needed for gold. When they post it will retroactively give me gold, correct? I want to grab some preferred seats for my return on 1/4 and another set of flights in January.
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 10:11 am
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Need Help To book AAdvantage

Hi, I just became an AAdvantage memeber and am not allowed to purchase miles to make this trip until 30 days. I have my routes reserved but not for 30 days. Is there any way around this rule?
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by Sam Nadidas
Hi, I just became an AAdvantage memeber and am not allowed to purchase miles to make this trip until 30 days. I have my routes reserved but not for 30 days. Is there any way around this rule?
No.

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Old Jan 1, 2016, 11:38 am
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A relatively trivial question, but we're doing DUB-PHL-LAX-HNL starting on Sunday (in J/F). But the AA website doesn't seem to be accepting pre-ordered meal selection. Been trying for several days now.

Is this a common glitch? Is there a workaround without phoning a random call centre?
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by Sam Nadidas
Hi, I just became an AAdvantage memeber and am not allowed to purchase miles to make this trip until 30 days. I have my routes reserved but not for 30 days. Is there any way around this rule?
Welcome to Flyertalk.

No, there is no way around the 30 day requirement for account existence, unfortunately.

We have deleted your new thread asking this question; cross posting is not allowed on Flyertalk.

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Old Jan 1, 2016, 12:08 pm
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I am new to flying American on tickets purchased directly through AA (rather than BA, IB etc). I am looking to purchase a domestic ticket in Y but I completely confused by the different pricing points for Y tickets. I have one world sapphire status.

If I select a choice fare what baggage allowance do I get, if any, as a one world sapphire flyer? Equally if I opt for a choice select fare what will my baggage allowance be?

Many thanks in advance.
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by PoincianaKings
I am new to flying American on tickets purchased directly through AA (rather than BA, IB etc). I am looking to purchase a domestic ticket in Y but I completely confused by the different pricing points for Y tickets. I have one world sapphire status.

If I select a choice fare what baggage allowance do I get, if any, as a one world sapphire flyer? Equally if I opt for a choice select fare what will my baggage allowance be?

Many thanks in advance.
As Oneworld Sapphire, you get 2 free checked baga on AA. I know AA Platinum members get an extra free checked bag when purchasing a Choice Essential fare, but I am not entirely sure if that applies to OWS members.
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 6:30 pm
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Upgrading with miles

Hey guys I'm contemplating between upgrading with miles vs. purchasing F straight up. I'll be flying SAN-PHX-STL and the difference between lowest fare coach and first class is $222. Alternatively I think I can upgrade with 15,000 miles + $75 dollars. In your opinion

1. Which one makes better sense, purchasing the first class ticket with money or miles (I thought it was almost a wash)

2. If I upgrade with miles, will I still get the 2EQM that AA gives to discounted first class flown.

Thanks all!
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 7:14 pm
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Hey guys I'm contemplating between upgrading with miles vs. purchasing F straight up. I'll be flying SAN-PHX-STL and the difference between lowest fare coach and first class is $222. Alternatively I think I can upgrade with 15,000 miles + $75 dollars. In your opinion

1. Which one makes better sense, purchasing the first class ticket with money or miles (I thought it was almost a wash)

2. If I upgrade with miles, will I still get the 2EQM that AA gives to discounted first class flown.

Thanks all!
You are in effect spending 15,000 miles to save $147. This is not a good deal in my book, but you may value your miles differently. You earn EQMs and RDMs based on your original class of booking, so you are also giving up the extra EQMs and RDMs for booking first directly.
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Old Jan 1, 2016, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by flyingeph12
You are in effect spending 15,000 miles to save $147. This is not a good deal in my book, but you may value your miles differently. You earn EQMs and RDMs based on your original class of booking, so you are also giving up the extra EQMs and RDMs for booking first directly.
Thanks so much for the reply. That's exactly what I wanted to know. I initially valued the 15,000 miles at about $150 (which is why I said it was a wash) but I can see that it may be more valuable than that.

I thought it may have been worth it if I still earned the 2x EQM as a discount first class fare but if the ticket earns miles based on booking class, it definitely isn't worth it to upgrade in my mind. Thanks so much for the response!
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I have a flight for 2 people booked that my partner now can't take anymore. Is it okay to just leave it as is and only check in one person and with only one person taking the flight, will that only cancel my partner's return flight or mine as well? Should I call in to ask for a PNR split to avoid this? Not sure about what to do here.

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(while I know FT'ers don't normally think buying miles is a good idea, for 3 business class seats R/T BOI to BKK in Oct/Nov 2016, it appears that the cost of purchasing miles and then booking award travel on an AA partner is way less than 3x business class 'real money' tickets. )
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just to add to this from the last page...

you say you want to purchase 150k+115k bonus miles for $4425 x2, so 530k miles for 8850USD

and you need 3 J seats

Assuming BOI-BKK, that's some obvious positioning flights anyway, so good departure ports would likely be YVR, SEA or PDX.

YVR would be the cheapest but there's no direct BOI-YVR flights so scratch that, let's take SEA

BOI-SEA-YVR-CAN-BKK is the cheapest routing (well here's YVR again anyway), all in J for 3 is a total of ~9300 USD

Roughly the same price as buying miles + award-ticket fees, BUT... you'll also earn a tooooon of miles actually flying this thing. If China Southern/Skyteam isn't your thing, there's also the option of

BOI-SEA-YVR-HKG-BKK, with YVR-HKG on AC and HKG-BKK on Thai, for a total of ~10600USD. Plus all the miles you'll get. (e.g. YVR-HKG-BKK is ~15k miles, which you can credit for ~30k miles per person, 90k overall. If you value them at a conservative 1.5cpm, that's worth ~1350USD, not to mention status benefits.

so... keep that in mind when weighing award flights bought purely on miles vs outright buying. Paying fully for miles is hardly ever a good idea, topping up for something is much better. Otherwise, buying the ticket will usually be a much better deal, especially considering you also get miles and status from it.

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Old Jan 2, 2016, 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by T8191
A relatively trivial question, but we're doing DUB-PHL-LAX-HNL starting on Sunday (in J/F). But the AA website doesn't seem to be accepting pre-ordered meal selection. Been trying for several days now.

Is this a common glitch? Is there a workaround without phoning a random call centre?
And still not working ... I give up!
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
I have a flight for 2 people booked that my partner now can't take anymore. Is it okay to just leave it as is and only check in one person and with only one person taking the flight, will that only cancel my partner's return flight or mine as well? Should I call in to ask for a PNR split to avoid this? Not sure about what to do here.
I'd call in and see if you can cancel one of the awards, just to be safe. You don't have to redeposit the miles and pay the fee if you don't want to.

Originally Posted by Smiley90
just to add to this from the last page...

you say you want to purchase 150k+115k bonus miles for $4425 x2, so 530k miles for 8850USD

and you need 3 J seats

Assuming BOI-BKK, that's some obvious positioning flights anyway, so good departure ports would likely be YVR, SEA or PDX.

YVR would be the cheapest but there's no direct BOI-YVR flights so scratch that, let's take SEA

BOI-SEA-YVR-CAN-BKK is the cheapest routing (well here's YVR again anyway), all in J for 3 is a total of ~9300 USD

Roughly the same price as buying miles + award-ticket fees, BUT... you'll also earn a tooooon of miles actually flying this thing. If China Southern/Skyteam isn't your thing, there's also the option of

BOI-SEA-YVR-HKG-BKK, with YVR-HKG on AC and HKG-BKK on Thai, for a total of ~10600USD. Plus all the miles you'll get. (e.g. YVR-HKG-BKK is ~15k miles, which you can credit for ~30k miles per person, 90k overall. If you value them at a conservative 1.5cpm, that's worth ~1350USD, not to mention status benefits.

so... keep that in mind when weighing award flights bought purely on miles vs outright buying. Paying fully for miles is hardly ever a good idea, topping up for something is much better. Otherwise, buying the ticket will usually be a much better deal, especially considering you also get miles and status from it.
I believe OP needs 330K miles for 3 J tickets, so the cost is more like
150k + 115k bonus = $4,425
43k + 22.5k bonus = $1,268.50
Total = ($5,693.50 + 7.5% tax) + (2 x $30 processing charge) = $6,180.52

But I totally agree with you that if it were me, I'd be purchasing the J tickets, especially given the excellent fares to BKK.
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