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Old Dec 30, 2015, 10:48 am
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"I just made AA gold and also have the Citi Executive Platinum card. Both say they give one free checked bag. This should mean that I will be able to check two bags free of charge on my flight right?"

No, it should not, and does not, mean that. Each waives only the first checked-bag fee; neither waives the second checked-bag fee.
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Old Dec 30, 2015, 10:54 am
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1. Surely this question is better addressed directly with AA. Ordinarily, I'd say no problem, but here you are trying to use the exact same bonus offer in two consecutive calendar years. But why can't one of your traveling companions purchase miles as well? Not an AAdvantage member?

2. Yes.

3. Websites occasionally display "phantom" availability. Since you have to call AA anyway to book CX/JL award travel, just call AA now to see if the seats you want are available. Put them on hold if they are.

4. Probably correct, but might not be universal.
Many thanks for coming back to me!

1. Agreed, AA would be the logical place to talk to about this. I tried the AAdvantage CS number but they didn't seem to know how to answer, or how to send me to someone who could get me an answer. It seemed weird how little they knew about it.
(and yes, my wife and 3 year old unfortunately don't have AAdvantage accounts, and the rules are that you must have an account 30+ days old to buy miles.. otherwise I'd skip this step entirely)

2) Yay!

3) Wow - even better. Will call them now - thanks for pointing this out!

4) Perfect.

Thanks again for your quick answers!
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Old Dec 30, 2015, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by flyer.jr
I just made AA gold and also have the Citi Executive Platinum card. Both say they give one free checked bag. This should mean that I will be able to check two bags free of charge on my flight right? Or is it some weird wording where they both only offer the first checked bag for free?
You can not combine those benefits to check two free bags. And be sure to read the terms and conditions - it's a bag on domestic flights only, I suspect.

(I doubt your card is "Citi Executive Plantinum" - there is no such card - there's a Citi® / AAdvantage® Executive World EliteTM MasterCard®. Link to Citi® / AAdvantage® Executive World EliteTM MasterCard®, which includes full Admirals Club membership, and there's a Citi® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® credit card.)
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Old Dec 30, 2015, 11:00 am
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Question about the AA miles sale (this is the 150k+115k bonus miles for $4425). Basically I want to buy the miles twice by taking advantage of the calendar year ending, but I'm not sure if they have a rule against this I might not be aware of.

The rules seem to say "Each AAdvantage member is limited to purchasing or receiving in a calendar year, a combined total of no more than 150,000 AAdvantage miles." (from googling elsewhere, it appears the 115k bonus doesn't count in this limit).

Has anyone tried taking advantage of this, ie: buy 150k miles on the 31st of Dec, buy another 150k on the 1st of Jan.

(while I know FT'ers don't normally think buying miles is a good idea, for 3 business class seats R/T BOI to BKK in Oct/Nov 2016, it appears that the cost of purchasing miles and then booking award travel on an AA partner is way less than 3x business class 'real money' tickets. )

So, my questions are:
1) Any reason I can't buy miles 'twice' (once this calendar year, once next calendar year)
2) Can I in fact put award tickets 'on hold' for 3 days even if I don't yet have enough miles to fund the trip I'm holding? (would like to hold the tickets before I buy the miles if possible)
3) Can I generally trust the award ticket availability info on the carriers websites (I read online to use BA's website to check award availability, as AA's website doesn't seem to work for checking most carriers award availability).
4) Am I right in understanding that 3 first class award tickets in the same flight never go on offer, and I should limit myself to business class? (additional note: we'll also have a lap child, so we'll be paying 10% of the first class fare I guess for the lap child.. which sounds expensive vs 10% of the business class fare, so this isn't a huge deal, although the miles difference is so tiny it feels like I'm throwing value away if I only book business class)

W.
I think you've gotten good answers to your questions, but just wanted to point out that fares to BKK from YYZ in business on Finnair are consistently in the US$2500 range. The fare is also available from YYC, although dates are more limited. Positioning should be relatively inexpensive.
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...c=b;a=ONEWORLD
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...c=b;a=ONEWORLD
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Old Dec 30, 2015, 11:32 am
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I am trying to book 4 round trip tickets from DCA to SEA in June with Advantage points. I can find first/business class tix for 25K when I try to reserve 2 but not 4. If I try to reserve 2 from my account and 2 from my wife’s account at the same time, the flights disappear for whichever account processes the reservation last. I don’t think it is an issue of not having enough seats as they all look empty. Is there any way around this? I can book 4 together in coach for 30K each (more expensive than first class).
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Old Dec 30, 2015, 12:06 pm
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I am trying to book 4 round trip tickets from DCA to SEA in June with Advantage points. I can find first/business class tix for 25K when I try to reserve 2 but not 4. If I try to reserve 2 from my account and 2 from my wife’s account at the same time, the flights disappear for whichever account processes the reservation last. I don’t think it is an issue of not having enough seats as they all look empty. Is there any way around this? I can book 4 together in coach for 30K each (more expensive than first class).
It seems there are only 2 saver award seats available. You are not going to be able to book 4 seats together--you are rightly getting an error when you try to book 2 and 2 at the same time. The best thing to do is probably to split up--you take one kid and your wife take the other. Monitor availability and if more seats open up on one of the flights, you can switch everyone to that flight. Also, sometimes you can use a schedule change to your advantage.
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1. Surely this question is better addressed directly with AA. Ordinarily, I'd say no problem, but here you are trying to use the exact same bonus offer in two consecutive calendar years. But why can't one of your traveling companions purchase miles as well? Not an AAdvantage member?
Good news! I called again and got someone with their head on straight who confirmed that I could definitely purchase miles in each calendar year and get the bonus for both (we walked through the exact scenario, including maxing out their mileage allowance for each of the years etc, and confirming I'd get the bonus on both maxed out purchases)

Frustratingly, despite the language of the offer saying "accounts less than 30 days old are not permitted", they're saying my account (opened Dec 2nd 2015) won't be eligible on the 31st of Dec as I had hoped despite that being the 30th day (I had hoped they'd count the signup day which would make the 31st the 30th day and so no longer "less than 30 days", but apparently they feel the join day doesn't count as one of the days )

I'm now scrambling see if a friend or family member has an AAdvantage account that I can 'gift' the miles to, and have them turn around and execute the purchase on my behalf with the gifted miles. Grr!

Thank you again for your help!
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Old Dec 30, 2015, 2:50 pm
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Does someone have the link to an updated earnings spreadsheet tracker in excel? I saw one a couple days ago that was updated, but can't recall where I stumbled across it.
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Yup, just bring a printout of your AA itinerary to show when you check-in with JL, they should have no problem checking your bags through.
Would we get our 2 free checked bags that we would normally get on AA flying from Japan?

I can take one as a carry on and then gate check it at AA I suppose, but my partner cant do that as it is too big.

Thanks for the response!
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1. Surely this question is better addressed directly with AA. Ordinarily, I'd say no problem, but here you are trying to use the exact same bonus offer in two consecutive calendar years. But why can't one of your traveling companions purchase miles as well? Not an AAdvantage member?
Good news! I called again and got someone with their head on straight who confirmed that I could definitely purchase miles in each calendar year and get the bonus for both (we walked through the exact scenario, including maxing out their mileage allowance for each of the years etc, and confirming I'd get the bonus on both maxed out purchases)

Frustratingly, despite the language of the offer saying "accounts less than 30 days old are not permitted", they're saying my account (opened Dec 2nd 2015) won't be eligible on the 31st of Dec as I had hoped despite that being the 30th day (I had hoped they'd count the signup day which would make the 31st the 30th day and so no longer "less than 30 days", but apparently they feel the join day doesn't count as one of the days )

I'm now scrambling see if a friend or family member has an AAdvantage account that I can 'gift' the miles to, and have them turn around and execute the purchase on my behalf with the gifted miles. Grr!

Thank you again for your help!
Were three MileSAAver seats available for your desired dates of travel? If not, this is all moot.

Don't overthink this. You're not traveling until next Fall. Have your wife sign up for AAdvantage immediately. She'll then be eligible to purchase miles starting at the end of January. She'll just have to wait for the next good miles sale from AA; fortunately, they seem to come along with some frequency.
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Were three MileSAAver seats available for your desired dates of travel? If not, this is all moot.

Don't overthink this. You're not traveling until next Fall. Have your wife sign up for AAdvantage immediately. She'll then be eligible to purchase miles starting at the end of January. She'll just have to wait for the next good miles sale from AA; fortunately, they seem to come along with some frequency.
I would be pleasantly surprised if there were 3 Saver F awards together.

I do think this promo is better than others in the recent past--not only the cost per mile but also the ability to pick up 115K additional miles above the annual cap. Also, there is a bit of urgency since the cost of an Asia 2 award is going up significantly in a few months.

For me, though, given the cheap business fares to Asia on AY from YYZ (which for me is easy to position to), I don't think I would use my miles to go to BKK/SIN/PEK/PVG.
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Were three MileSAAver seats available for your desired dates of travel? If not, this is all moot.

Don't overthink this. You're not traveling until next Fall. Have your wife sign up for AAdvantage immediately. She'll then be eligible to purchase miles starting at the end of January. She'll just have to wait for the next good miles sale from AA; fortunately, they seem to come along with some frequency.
I would be pleasantly surprised if there were 3 Saver F awards together.

I do think this promo is better than others in the recent past--not only the cost per mile but also the ability to pick up 115K additional miles above the annual cap. Also, there is a bit of urgency since the cost of an Asia 2 award is going up significantly in a few months.

For me, though, given the cheap business fares to Asia on AY from YYZ (which for me is easy to position to), I don't think I would use my miles to go to BKK/SIN/PEK/PVG.
I'm assuming that, at best, there will be three J award seats (or maybe two in J and one in F). If there are three award seats in J coming and going, only 330,000 AA miles total (before any rebate if one is a Citi/AAdvantage credit-card holder) are needed. If 265,000 miles are purchased on January 1, that would cover three outbound J seats, and (assuming a 10,000-mile credit-card rebate after purchasing the three outbound awards), two of the three required inbound awards. Then the spouse would only need to purchase 55,000 miles at the end of January, and redeem them for one of the inbound J awards.

The key question is whether there are the requisite number of J/F award seats available on the same flights.
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Does someone have the link to an updated earnings spreadsheet tracker in excel? I saw one a couple days ago that was updated, but can't recall where I stumbled across it.
Page 30 in the "Just the Facts" thread:
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$75 close-in award ticket fee

Hi all! Has anyone successfully been able to get the $75 close-in 21-day award ticket fee waived for AA? I heard the loophole doesn't work anymore.
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No, it's not a different question at all.

As it specifies in the wiki of the thread linked to to in my previous answer, NO. The flight must be an AA marketed flight, regardless of where purchased or which airline operates the flight.

AA flight number, it qualifies as one of the four segments; non-AA flight number,it does not qualify.

And AA is not UA.
Thanks again for your help.

I wanted to give you a feedback/update on this issue.

I contacted AA by email and they replied that as long as it a AA-operated flight, it does not matter whether it is AA-marketed or not. As a specific example, AA confirmed that a BA-marketed but AA-operated flight would qualify as one of the segments for elite qualification.

And this is exactly what happened. When my son completed his 4th AA-operated flight (2 of the 4 were BA-marketed with BA flight numbers, but on AA planes), he was upgraded to Gold status.

So, as far as this issue is concerned, maybe AA is UA

I suggest we update the Wiki.
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