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#631
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I would never let myself in the position of a 25 minute turn around. The airlines are dreaming if they think that is acceptable. I never buy a ticket with a connection under an hour; and when there is a schedule change that puts a connection under one hour, I call to have the flight changed.

#632
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Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Minimum Connect Times:
Connecting at LAX, Incoming airline AA,Outgoing airline AA, Flight type Domestic to Domestic
STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE 1.10 1.30 2.00 2.00
OFFLINE 1.10 1.30 2.00 2.00
** OR * ARE ALL
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 1 - 2754 - FLT 1 - 6099 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 2755 - 5709 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 5710 - 6004 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 6005 - 6099 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 1 - 2754 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 2755 - 5709 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 5710 - 6004 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 6005 - 6099 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 6005 - 6099 - FLT 2755 - 6004 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 6005 - 6099 - FLT 6005 - 6099 YVR - ALL
ALL - UNITED STATES
AA-AA DD SUP FLT 1 - 9099 - FLT 7295 - 7441 ALL - JFK
AA-AA DD SUP FLT 7295 - 7441 - FLT 1 - 9099 JFK - ALL
AA-AA DD SUP FLT 1 - 9099 - FLT 1 - 9099
CANADA - CANADA
AA-AA DD .45 FLT 1 - 2754 - FLT 1 - 6099
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 2755 - 5709
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .45 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 5710 - 6004
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 6005 - 6099
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .45 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 1 - 2754
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 2755 - 5709
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .45 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 5710 - 6004
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 6005 - 6099
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .45 FLT 6005 - 6099 - FLT 2755 - 6004
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 6005 - 6099 - FLT 6005 - 6099
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD 1.30 FLT 6780 - 7161 - FLT 1 - 6099
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD 1.30 FLT 7454 - 7637 - FLT 1 - 6099
CANADA - ALL
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 1 - 2754 - FLT 1 - 6099
AA-AA DD 1.10 FLT 1 - 2754 - FLT 6780 - 7161
AA-AA DD 1.10 FLT 1 - 2754 - FLT 7454 - 7637
AA-AA DD 1.10 FLT 1 - 6099 - FLT 8104 - 8253
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 2755 - 5709
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 5710 - 6004
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 2755 - 5709 - FLT 6005 - 6099
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 1 - 2754
AA-AA DD 1.25 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 6780 - 7161
AA-AA DD 1.25 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 7454 - 7637
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 2755 - 5709
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 5710 - 6004
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 5710 - 6004 - FLT 6005 - 6099
AA-AA DD .35 FLT 6005 - 6099 - FLT 2755 - 6004
AA-AA DD .25 FLT 6005 - 6099 - FLT 6005 - 6099
AA-AA DD 1.10 FLT 6780 - 7151 - FLT 1 - 2754
AA-AA DD 1.25 FLT 6780 - 7161 - FLT 2755 - 6099
AA-AA DD 1.10 FLT 7454 - 7637 - FLT 1 - 2754
AA-AA DD 1.25 FLT 7454 - 7637 - FLT 2755 - 6099
AA-AA DD 1.30 FLT 8104 - 8253 - FLT 1 - 6099
AA-AA DD SUP FLT 6100 - 9099 - FLT 6100 - 9099
**-AA DD SUP ALL - FLT 6100 - 9099
**-AA DD SUP CANADA - CANADA
AA-** DD SUP FLT 6100 - 9099 - ALL

#633
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#634
Join Date: Jul 2014
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LAX and other SoCal Delays 2/17 - 2/18
Just got this email from AA about inclement weather delays with a link to this page.
Affects flights leaving or arriving in SoCal between 2/17 and 2/18.
"When severe weather or other uncontrollable events impact your flight and travel dates, you may be able to change your trip with no change fee."
Affects flights leaving or arriving in SoCal between 2/17 and 2/18.
"When severe weather or other uncontrollable events impact your flight and travel dates, you may be able to change your trip with no change fee."

#635
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I got the same. Flying JFK-LAX tomorrow evening for a long weekend, can't bring my flights forward because of other commitments and J has been booked solid for the whole day for at least 2 weeks now so nothing to move to anyways.
Whilst the reports don't look like it's normal weather for Southern California (Weather.com says they're expecting LA's highest one day rainfall total) the only impact I can imagine this having is less aircraft being able to arrive into LAX per hour or similar. Winds reported are 25-35mph from the SE which shouldn't affect LAX hugely.
Whilst the reports don't look like it's normal weather for Southern California (Weather.com says they're expecting LA's highest one day rainfall total) the only impact I can imagine this having is less aircraft being able to arrive into LAX per hour or similar. Winds reported are 25-35mph from the SE which shouldn't affect LAX hugely.

#636
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I got the same. Flying JFK-LAX tomorrow evening for a long weekend, can't bring my flights forward because of other commitments and J has been booked solid for the whole day for at least 2 weeks now so nothing to move to anyways.
Whilst the reports don't look like it's normal weather for Southern California (Weather.com says they're expecting LA's highest one day rainfall total) the only impact I can imagine this having is less aircraft being able to arrive into LAX per hour or similar. Winds reported are 25-35mph from the SE which shouldn't affect LAX hugely.
Whilst the reports don't look like it's normal weather for Southern California (Weather.com says they're expecting LA's highest one day rainfall total) the only impact I can imagine this having is less aircraft being able to arrive into LAX per hour or similar. Winds reported are 25-35mph from the SE which shouldn't affect LAX hugely.

#637
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I am traveling to SAN tomorrow and got this notice... While I do expect LAX and maybe SNA for long flights (short runway) might have some operational challenges, I find it hard to believe the other airports will have issues.
Like some of you, my dates are fixed and the dates for rebooking does not work for me.
I just hope AA does not go off the hook excessively cancelling flights "proactively".
Like some of you, my dates are fixed and the dates for rebooking does not work for me.
I just hope AA does not go off the hook excessively cancelling flights "proactively".

#638
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I got the same. Flying JFK-LAX tomorrow evening for a long weekend, can't bring my flights forward because of other commitments and J has been booked solid for the whole day for at least 2 weeks now so nothing to move to anyways.
Whilst the reports don't look like it's normal weather for Southern California (Weather.com says they're expecting LA's highest one day rainfall total) the only impact I can imagine this having is less aircraft being able to arrive into LAX per hour or similar. Winds reported are 25-35mph from the SE which shouldn't affect LAX hugely.
Whilst the reports don't look like it's normal weather for Southern California (Weather.com says they're expecting LA's highest one day rainfall total) the only impact I can imagine this having is less aircraft being able to arrive into LAX per hour or similar. Winds reported are 25-35mph from the SE which shouldn't affect LAX hugely.

#639
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The Oroville dam is north of Sacremento, and at least at this point pretty stable. The weather waiver in Southern California is for the first of a series of storms that is going to batter California for the next week or so.

#640
Join Date: Jul 2014
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I think it is the rain not the dam.
It doesn't help that LAX already has terrible delays on runway during normal conditions because planes are always playing musical chairs as-is. There are always more planes on the ground than there are gates. So throwing any kind of deviation makes things a million times worse
It doesn't help that LAX already has terrible delays on runway during normal conditions because planes are always playing musical chairs as-is. There are always more planes on the ground than there are gates. So throwing any kind of deviation makes things a million times worse

#641
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Got same email, which is nice they are trying to get out ahead of things. Looks like since rain hasn't started yet they are very limited with changes (mostly date and times). I bet once it hits and things start going wrong they will allow more changes to avoid LAX altogether.

#642
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AA is delaying a ton of LAX bound flights from the east coast.
Most ORD-SNA flights were cancelled. All DFW-SNA is still operating. I presume this has to do with SNA's short runway potentially having some difficulties with the strong winds for longer flights.
SAN does not seem to be impacted by any delay yet, but the storm doesn't hit SAN until the evening.
Most ORD-SNA flights were cancelled. All DFW-SNA is still operating. I presume this has to do with SNA's short runway potentially having some difficulties with the strong winds for longer flights.
SAN does not seem to be impacted by any delay yet, but the storm doesn't hit SAN until the evening.

#643
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I have SFO-LAX-HKG tomorrow (Sat) flying SFO-LAX at 7pm.
EF shows all SFO-LAX flights tomorrow blocked out and I called the EXP desk to see if they could move us up to an earlier flight in case of more IRROPS. The EXP desk said they couldnt as so many flights planned to be cancelled today.
EF shows all SFO-LAX flights tomorrow blocked out and I called the EXP desk to see if they could move us up to an earlier flight in case of more IRROPS. The EXP desk said they couldnt as so many flights planned to be cancelled today.

#644
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All things considered LAX seems to be holding up well. The only airport thus far that had significant cancellation is SNA.
SAN is supposed to get the brunt of the storm soon, hopefully my flight in 2 hours won't have any issues.
I am starting to think this travel waiver is more about those originating their trips from socal rather than those going there or operational issues. From what I gather it is very dangerous to drive to/from the airports given the drainage system on the roads isn't really designed for storms like this one.
SAN is supposed to get the brunt of the storm soon, hopefully my flight in 2 hours won't have any issues.
I am starting to think this travel waiver is more about those originating their trips from socal rather than those going there or operational issues. From what I gather it is very dangerous to drive to/from the airports given the drainage system on the roads isn't really designed for storms like this one.

#645
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Expect Northern California - especially SFO - to have problems Monday 20 Feb.
