Dec 20, 2015, 10:41 pm
Last edit by: Mwenenzi
AA 73 & 72 LAX / Los Angeles <--> SYD / Sydney (as of 17 Dec 2015)
Was operated with Boeing 77W / 777-323ER to 8 Nov 2017
Changed to Boeing 787-9 in November 2017.
Including lounge, connections information
Was operated with Boeing 77W / 777-323ER to 8 Nov 2017
Changed to Boeing 787-9 in November 2017.
Including lounge, connections information
Initial schedule:
LAX-SYD: 17 Dec 2015 AA 73 Flight duration 15:05
Lv LAX 21:50 Dec 17 PST / 05:50 18 Dec GMT
Ar SYD 07:55 Dec 19 AEDT / 20:55 18 Dec GMT (same day)
SYD-LAX: 19 Dec 2015 AA 72 Flight duration 13:50Ar SYD 07:55 Dec 19 AEDT / 20:55 18 Dec GMT (same day)
Lv SYD 12:00 Dec 19 AEDT / 01:00 19 Dec GMT
Ar LAX 06:50 Dec 19 PST / 14:50 19 Dec GMT
Inaugural flight AA73, operated by Boeing 777-323ER ("77W") N720AN:Ar LAX 06:50 Dec 19 PST / 14:50 19 Dec GMT
2015-12-17 - AA73 - Los Angeles (LAX) STD 21:50 PST ATD 22:15 - Sydney (SYD) STA 07:55 AEDT ATA 07:30 AEDT
From Source Aust BT
American Airlines will shift its Sydney-Los Angeles flights to a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner from November 8, 2017. The advanced jet replaces the larger Boeing 777-300ER and will see first class dropped from the trans-Pacific route, although business travellers on a budget will appreciate the introduction of American Airlines' new premium economy seating on the Boeing 787.
Link to Australian Aviation article
Older archived thread relating to announcement of new LAX-SYD-LAX flight (June 9, 2015) here.
Lounges: by oneworld status, or by class of service - and Admirals Club members flying out on AA (or an AA marketed flight) get to use the QANTAS Business Lounge.
Qantas First Lounge - spa, restaurant: First or oneworld Emerald passengers
Qantas Business Lounge: Business, oneworld Sapphire pax and Admirals Club members
On arrival
Link to Airport info SYDNEY (SYD) - amenities, transfers, transport to FlyerTalk Oceania Forum SYD master thread with extensive wiki.
Connections:
International- no need to collect baggage if allowed by your airline(s), follow flight connections signs to immigration, flight connections desk. If you are not allowed to through check your bags you must process immigration, collect bags, process customs, proceed to the airline Check in areas and process security to get back airside.
Domestic: the domestic terminals 2 and 3 are 2.5 miles / 4 km away. Figure on a half hour at least to transfer, and if you use landside road transfers during high traffic times, longer (airside plan minimum half an hour). Talking about peak times, it can take two hours with queues waiting to board shuttle busses.
If traveling on via Qantas once you're landside after the Duty Free gantlet, follow the signs and go right. You'll eventually arrive at the baggage check facility, process security and take an airside shuttle that will end up with you're being at Gate 15 airside in the QF domestic terminal. It's called "Qantas seamless transfer".
If traveling with other airlines see Here
Link to SYD airport maps, etc.
Link to SYD airport FAQ.
If you wish to overnight close to international terminal 1, see here for a Rydges Sydney Airport stay report and tips.
Historical note: Pan American World Airways was the first American airline offering commercial passenger service to Australia, beginning Feb 1947 to SYD (with several stops), adding MEL in 1958. United acquired Pan Am's Pacific routes, operating them as of Feb 1986.
American Airlines initially operated to Sydney (and later also Melbourne between August 1970 through to March 1974. AA reestablished service with a DC-10 LAX-HNL-SYD return 4x weekly in Feb 1990, but ended that service March 1992.
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Feb 25, 2018, 7:45 pm
#646
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This is exactly what I'm looking for and yeah as others said I would get QF F access but wouldn't change my decision either way. So I'm thinking this year I may be a little light on EQMs (EQDs I'll never have a problem) so I should probably book AA. One more question - if I book on AA website and do the QF codeshare from LAX-MEL (and then I'd do AA72 back) would I still get the 2x since it's booked on AA or would it be the 1.25x since it's operated by QF?
Feb 25, 2018, 7:47 pm
#647
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AA codeshares (marketed) on oneworld metal earn as per AA marketed and operated.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...n-airlines.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...n-airlines.jsp
Mar 23, 2018, 1:28 am
#651
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: AA LT GLD 1MM
Posts: 811
Is something going on in Australia in Early April?
Between now and April 14th, for syd-lax there are only 2 days with AAnytime business award seats available. Is J really completely sold out for almost all of the next 3 weeks?
Between now and April 14th, for syd-lax there are only 2 days with AAnytime business award seats available. Is J really completely sold out for almost all of the next 3 weeks?
Last edited by AZbba; Mar 23, 2018 at 1:43 am
Mar 23, 2018, 3:08 am
#652
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Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 20,980
Friday 30 March Is Easter Friday, Monday 2 April Easter Monday. Schools & universities are on holidays for few weeks in many Au States.
In the Gold Coast, south of Brisbane, from 4 April to 14 April the Commonwealth games are being held.
Looking a J award, even aanytime, close in at a busy time is being a tad hopeful. People start booking USA Australia premium awards from 330 days out.
AAdvantage award to / from Australia, New Zealand (master thread)
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Mar 23, 2018 at 3:29 am
Jul 19, 2019, 11:56 am
#653
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: LAX/ORD/HNL
Programs: AA EXP, 4.6 MM, LT Pt, HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 443
With the impending approval of the AA/QF joint operating agreement, do you think AA will put the 77W back on this route? I was on the inaugural flight and the five star service that came with F was pretty sweet.
Jul 19, 2019, 11:02 pm
#654
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: +61
Programs: SQ*PPS, QF-WP1 & LTG, VA-Gold, Marriott*LTT, Hilton*Gold, Accor*Platinum
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Unlikely. Not enough F traffic, not enough cargo, not enough pax.
Aug 14, 2019, 2:52 pm
#655
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Aargh... got the C class notification at T-30. 4 minutes after getting the email I rang in.
”we have it.. let me check your second leg”
”no!!! Lock it in”
”I’m sorry there is no upgrade space available”
J1 C1 D1 I1. 1 seat gift at the gate and not holding my breath
Return flight still has 20 seats open and is J7 C7 D7 I7
”we have it.. let me check your second leg”
”no!!! Lock it in”
”I’m sorry there is no upgrade space available”
J1 C1 D1 I1. 1 seat gift at the gate and not holding my breath
Return flight still has 20 seats open and is J7 C7 D7 I7
Nov 14, 2020, 1:20 am
#656
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AA73 LAX SYD and AA72 SYD LAX are back in the air
https://www.airportia.com/flights/aa...y/los_angeles/
https://www.sydneyairport.com.au/fli...&showAll=false
AA72 last flight was 01 May 2020 and restarted 12 Nov 2020
AA72 looks to be 4 days a week, 2, 4, 5 & 7 (Tue, Thu, Fri & Sun).
Will not have many passengers as
DL & UA are flying USA-SYD. UA have never stopped flying to AU in the pandemic. QF has chosen not to fly long international flights
https://www.airportia.com/flights/aa...y/los_angeles/
https://www.sydneyairport.com.au/fli...&showAll=false
AA72 last flight was 01 May 2020 and restarted 12 Nov 2020
AA72 looks to be 4 days a week, 2, 4, 5 & 7 (Tue, Thu, Fri & Sun).
Will not have many passengers as
- Only AU citizens, AU permanent residents and limited others can enter AU.
- The number entering is limited by the 14 day hotel quarantine capacity. About 30 passengers per flight. Quarantine capacity is ~6310 passengers per week for the country.
- AU government is not allowing AU citizens and AU permanent residents to leave unless specific government permission is granted.
- AU international air-side transit is OK for many. e.g. To NZ
DL & UA are flying USA-SYD. UA have never stopped flying to AU in the pandemic. QF has chosen not to fly long international flights
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Nov 14, 2020 at 1:31 am Reason: spelling
Nov 14, 2020, 6:49 pm
#657
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Well to be fair during the time AA was flying 77Ws to SYD, QF was flying the same route with A380s so after Covid, AA may have an opportunity to try out F demand since QF will not be resuming A380 service until 2023.
Nov 14, 2020, 7:10 pm
#658
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ExecTrav AU (03 Nov 2020)---->Qantas, American Airlines seek partnership extension to 2026
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The Joint Venture between Qantas and American Airlines allows the carriers to closely cooperate on routes from Australia and New Zealand to the United States, Canada and Mexico, and vice versa. This includes coordinating fare prices, sharing revenue from each other’s flights, broad codesharing across the combined Qantas/AA transpacific network, and cost sharing as well: which is said to make new international routes more viable, when both airlines share the risk.
<snip>
The Joint Venture between Qantas and American Airlines allows the carriers to closely cooperate on routes from Australia and New Zealand to the United States, Canada and Mexico, and vice versa. This includes coordinating fare prices, sharing revenue from each other’s flights, broad codesharing across the combined Qantas/AA transpacific network, and cost sharing as well: which is said to make new international routes more viable, when both airlines share the risk.
<snip>
Nov 14, 2020, 7:24 pm
#659
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Currently AA-QF have a joint venture, so no significant advantage to the other.
ExecTrav AU (03 Nov 2020)---->Qantas, American Airlines seek partnership extension to 2026
ExecTrav AU (03 Nov 2020)---->Qantas, American Airlines seek partnership extension to 2026
Nov 15, 2020, 3:54 am
#660
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What does the venture have to do with QF currently not offering F on any route? AA still has aircraft configured with long-haul F. Previously, there were 22 F seats available LAX SYD (14 on QF and 8 on AA) on a daily basis and now there would only be 8 if AA decides to redeploy the 77W on this route.
