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Earning American Airlines AAvantage Miles Flying British Airways
Including known issues (e.g. upgrades) with AA / BA
Earning AAdvantage Miles on British Airways When Upgraded[/color]
Links to BAEC Forum resources:
Including known issues (e.g. upgrades) with AA / BA
Earning AAdvantage Miles flying British Airways
Travel on British Airways and its affiliate airline counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
Affiliate airlines
AAdvantage Concierge Key, Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro, Platinum and Gold members traveling on British Airways also enjoy:
Additional elite status bonus miles
If you fly BA as an AA codeshare, marketed flight, you will earn as if you were flying on AA.
Link to AAdvantage chart on earning miles flying BA.
Travel on British Airways and its affiliate airline counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
Affiliate airlines
- BA Cityflyer
- BA EuroFlyer
- Sun-Air of Scandinavia
AAdvantage Concierge Key, Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro, Platinum and Gold members traveling on British Airways also enjoy:
Additional elite status bonus miles
If you fly BA as an AA codeshare, marketed flight, you will earn as if you were flying on AA.
Link to AAdvantage chart on earning miles flying BA.
Upgrading to First on British Airways and U, Z (?) upgrade shared with award Fare Class Issues
Upgrading a paid Business (Club World) fare to First on British Airways puts the flight into fare class "Z" (?)a class that is ineligible for AAdvantage miles accrual (as reflected on the accrual chart) because it is also an award classification for a First Class award.
Upgrading a paid Premium Economy (World Traveller Plus) fare to Business puts it into U class (?), another award fare class that earns no AA miles.
Members have recently reported success at having their upgrades acknowledged as miles-earning, but it may prove challenging.
According to successful member BosTravel, you may have to contact ask for AAdvantage Customer Service, and explain you paid for Business, upgraded to F, or WTP to CW, and provide them with your original ticket number(s).
Upgrading a paid Business (Club World) fare to First on British Airways puts the flight into fare class "Z" (?)a class that is ineligible for AAdvantage miles accrual (as reflected on the accrual chart) because it is also an award classification for a First Class award.
Upgrading a paid Premium Economy (World Traveller Plus) fare to Business puts it into U class (?), another award fare class that earns no AA miles.
Members have recently reported success at having their upgrades acknowledged as miles-earning, but it may prove challenging.
According to successful member BosTravel, you may have to contact ask for AAdvantage Customer Service, and explain you paid for Business, upgraded to F, or WTP to CW, and provide them with your original ticket number(s).
Earning AAdvantage Miles on British Airways When Upgraded[/color]
AAdvantage Participating Airline Upgrade Awards / PAUA (using AA miles)
AAdvantage miles may be used to secure upgrade awards for partners BA and IB, including code shares, depending on fare purchased.
EQM will be generally earned based on originally purchased fare.
Link to thread discussing AA Participating Airline Upgrade Awards / PAUA
AAdvantage miles may be used to secure upgrade awards for partners BA and IB, including code shares, depending on fare purchased.
- Full Fare Economy includes published fares booked in Y or B (excluding Military or Government fares)
- Full Fare Premium Economy refers to World Traveller Plus published fares booked in W on British Airways
- Full Fare Business includes published fares booked in J, D or R on American and C, J, D or R on British Airways
EQM will be generally earned based on originally purchased fare.
Link to thread discussing AA Participating Airline Upgrade Awards / PAUA
Links to BAEC Forum resources:
Pro-Active Online Upgrades (POUG)
A. What is a Pro-active Online Upgrade?
The simple answer: it is a limited special upgrade that may be offered at a time of BA's choosing after your booking is ticketed up to and including online check-in. The offer, if it happens (and this is not guaranteed) will appear in Manage My Booking, either via BA.com or the mobile app. There is no email notification, klaxon sound or flashing beacons to alert you - so now you know why its called a Pro-active Online Upgrade
Please note, POUG rates differ from the rates offered at the airport (see, Airport Upgrade (AUP) cost tracking thread) and also the rate offered when you click on the Upgrade my class of travel with money link from within MMB, or the Upgrade to the next available cabin blue/grey banner in the app.
Link to thread on Pro-active Online Upgrades and cost tracking
A. What is a Pro-active Online Upgrade?
The simple answer: it is a limited special upgrade that may be offered at a time of BA's choosing after your booking is ticketed up to and including online check-in. The offer, if it happens (and this is not guaranteed) will appear in Manage My Booking, either via BA.com or the mobile app. There is no email notification, klaxon sound or flashing beacons to alert you - so now you know why its called a Pro-active Online Upgrade
Please note, POUG rates differ from the rates offered at the airport (see, Airport Upgrade (AUP) cost tracking thread) and also the rate offered when you click on the Upgrade my class of travel with money link from within MMB, or the Upgrade to the next available cabin blue/grey banner in the app.
Link to thread on Pro-active Online Upgrades and cost tracking
Airport Upgrades (AUP):
Airport Upgrades may be offered at the airport, or rarely in a lounge if requested.
Link to thread on Airport Upgrades and cost tracking
Airport Upgrades may be offered at the airport, or rarely in a lounge if requested.
Link to thread on Airport Upgrades and cost tracking
Upgrading using Avios (UuA)
UuAs can only be applied to tickets issued on 125 stock. In other words tickets issued by BA or BA registered travel agents with ticket numbers beginning 125. Tickets sold by Iberia and American Airlines are issued on different numbered stock and cannot be upgraded using Avios.
Link to post regarding Upgrading using Avios
UuAs can only be applied to tickets issued on 125 stock. In other words tickets issued by BA or BA registered travel agents with ticket numbers beginning 125. Tickets sold by Iberia and American Airlines are issued on different numbered stock and cannot be upgraded using Avios.
Link to post regarding Upgrading using Avios
Earning AA LPs / Award miles etc. BA / British Airways (inc. upgraded flights)
Sep 11, 23, 3:52 pm
#256
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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My understanding is that AAV packages where the flight has the asterisk still posts by distance. We've certainly had some AAV flights post by distance since the change to LP. We've not done one in a bit, but I am assuming that this has not changed. The "added component" is the car or hotel which complicates extraction of the price for the flights.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Sep 11, 23, 3:56 pm
#257
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,395
Getting off topic but the I'm not talking about the change to LP, I'm taking about the change to AAV earlier this year. I believe that you earn 5 miles per dollar spent on the package (less with no status) and nothing else. Furthermore, all passengers must have AA accounts and the 5 miles/dollar are split evenly between all travelers. The terms mention that the flight will post as 0 and you will later get miles for the package price. It's a little confusing but I'm pretty sure that all AAV flights earn 0 no matter what.
Cheers.
Sep 17, 23, 4:01 pm
#258
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: AA EXP, DL Plat, VX Gold, VS Gold, HHonors Gold; SPG Gold; Marriott Gold
Posts: 237
How are UUA fares calculated for earning
Historically, if I purchased a BA premium economy fare then upgraded with Avios, I would earn AA miles and LPs. Asked on distance per the underlying Premium Economy fare class (usually T)
under the new model, Im clear my miles and LP earnings will be based on the purchased ticket base fare+carrier imposed fees.
but when upgrading using Avios, BA often charges the additional (difference) in Carrier imposed fees. Will these be included in the miles/LP calculation under the new revenue earn?
under the new model, Im clear my miles and LP earnings will be based on the purchased ticket base fare+carrier imposed fees.
but when upgrading using Avios, BA often charges the additional (difference) in Carrier imposed fees. Will these be included in the miles/LP calculation under the new revenue earn?
Sep 17, 23, 4:07 pm
#259
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,395
Historically, if I purchased a BA premium economy fare then upgraded with Avios, I would earn AA miles and LPs. Asked on distance per the underlying Premium Economy fare class (usually T)
under the new model, Im clear my miles and LP earnings will be based on the purchased ticket base fare+carrier imposed fees.
but when upgrading using Avios, BA often charges the additional (difference) in Carrier imposed fees. Will these be included in the miles/LP calculation under the new revenue earn?
under the new model, Im clear my miles and LP earnings will be based on the purchased ticket base fare+carrier imposed fees.
but when upgrading using Avios, BA often charges the additional (difference) in Carrier imposed fees. Will these be included in the miles/LP calculation under the new revenue earn?
cheers.
Sep 25, 23, 8:38 am
#260
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 12
BA -> AA miles corect?
Sorry for this question as I'm sure I am just overlooking its answer somewhere.
I recently flew BA, no codeshare, and received miles dollar for dollar (~400). It was paid on the exec card and I am EP. Do we really not get a multiplier on the miles? Thank you!
Edit: sorry for the type in title.
I recently flew BA, no codeshare, and received miles dollar for dollar (~400). It was paid on the exec card and I am EP. Do we really not get a multiplier on the miles? Thank you!
Edit: sorry for the type in title.
Sep 25, 23, 9:06 am
#261
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 11,693
Sorry for this question as I'm sure I am just overlooking its answer somewhere.
I recently flew BA, no codeshare, and received miles dollar for dollar (~400). It was paid on the exec card and I am EP. Do we really not get a multiplier on the miles? Thank you!
Edit: sorry for the type in title.
I recently flew BA, no codeshare, and received miles dollar for dollar (~400). It was paid on the exec card and I am EP. Do we really not get a multiplier on the miles? Thank you!
Edit: sorry for the type in title.
Give AAdvantage Customer Service a call to fix it if you were in fact credited by fare since it's before Oct. 18.
AA.com - BA Partner Earning
Sep 25, 23, 10:19 am
#262
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 11
Change to earning AA LPs on Intl Partners
I just noticed on AA.com that effective October 18, 2023, AA award miles earned on Iberia and BA marketed and operated flights will be calculated based on dollars spent instead of miles flown. Does anyone know if LPs will also be calculated based on spend rather than miles?? Does anyone know when this change was made?? Also, does anyone have any information regarding whether tickets purchased before this change was made will earn LPs based on dollars or miles flown?? thanks
Last edited by nicolawca; Sep 25, 23 at 10:30 am
Sep 25, 23, 10:43 am
#264
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This change was announced back in August, lots of discussion in the below thread.
For flights on BA/IB all that matters is the flight date, flights on or after Oct 18 will credit by fare, flights until Oct 17 will credit according to distance and fare code.
<removed circular link after merge>
For flights on BA/IB all that matters is the flight date, flights on or after Oct 18 will credit by fare, flights until Oct 17 will credit according to distance and fare code.
<removed circular link after merge>
Last edited by JY1024; Sep 25, 23 at 12:26 pm
Sep 25, 23, 11:31 am
#265
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, NH Plat, Former UA 1K
Posts: 5,413
I think the big unknown is whether RTW (OneWorld Explorer) tickets will continue to earn on distance or not, since it seems BA is going to continue to credit in their own program based on distance for those tickets. But for all other 'normal' tickets, expect to be shafted on lower priced tickets, the only winners will be those who fly East Coast to LHR in mid to high priced C since those are short routes and distance earning wasn't great.
Oct 12, 23, 1:04 pm
#267
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAX oriented World Digital Nomad
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt Globalist, MLife/Cosmo Identity Gold, Other Vegas too...
Posts: 1,282
When did BA and Iberia become LP earning based on dollar spend?
Noticed in an email I got today that Iberia and BA are going to miles earned based on spend instead of distance? When was this announced or was that today?
Goes into effect for ALL flights starting October 18, hope no one was banking on otherwise...
(I'm at 125k LPs and really clueless at this point as to the cheapest way to get to 175-250k... I make 70k a year and do not have an AA credit card... Partner airlines were my best friend before LPs. RocketMiles had become my Go-To until this summer. Now what? Argh. )
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...sh-airways.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...nes/iberia.jsp
Goes into effect for ALL flights starting October 18, hope no one was banking on otherwise...
(I'm at 125k LPs and really clueless at this point as to the cheapest way to get to 175-250k... I make 70k a year and do not have an AA credit card... Partner airlines were my best friend before LPs. RocketMiles had become my Go-To until this summer. Now what? Argh. )
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...sh-airways.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...nes/iberia.jsp
Oct 12, 23, 10:47 pm
#269
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, Total Wine & More Reserve
Posts: 4,130
Wasn't banking on it, but it does suck that they're going off of flight date rather than purchase date since I'm going to get a lot less LPs on an upcoming trip than I was expecting to when I booked it.
