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Earning AA EQ / Award miles etc. BA / British Airways (inc. upgraded flights)

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Earning American Airlines AAvantage Miles Flying BA / British Airways (master thread)
Including known issues (e.g. upgrades) with AA / BA
Earning AAdvantage Miles flying British Airways

Travel on British Airways and its affiliate airline counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.

Affiliate airlines
  • BA Cityflyer
  • Comair (South Africa)
  • OpenSkies
  • Sun-Air of Scandinavia

AAdvantage Concierge Key, Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro, Platinum and Gold members traveling on British Airways also enjoy:

If you fly BA as an AA codeshare / marketed flight, you will earn as if you were flying on AA.

NOTE: AA Joint Business Venture partners AY, BA, IB, JL now earn up to 3 EQM per flown mile, along with American Airlines. See the earning chart linked to above.

EQ Dollars are earned as a percentage of miles flown determined by fare class.

To earn EQM BA marketed flights ("BA codeshares") must be operated by oneworld airline partners and affiliates including BA to earn AA miles.

Link to AAdvantage chart on earning miles flying BA.


Upgrading to First on BA / British Airways and U, Z (?) upgrade shared with award Fare Class Issues

Upgrading a paid Business / Club World fare to First on British Airways puts the flight into fare class "Z" (?)a class that is ineligible for AAdvantage miles accrual (as reflected on the accrual chart) because it is also an award classification for a First Class award.

Upgrading a paid Premium Economy / World Traveller Plus fare to Business puts it into U class (?), another award fare class that earns no AA miles.

Members have recently reported success at having their upgrades acknowledged as miles-garnering, but it may prove challenging.

According to successful member BosTravel, you may have to contact ask for AAdvantage Customer Service, and explain you paid for Business, upgraded to F, or WTP to CW, and provide them with your original ticket number(s).

Originally Posted by gohima View Post
I just wanted to post the conclusion to my saga, that started with the brilliant idea to upgrade two CX flights in February (yes, 4 months ago).

Well, I Fedex'd a letter to the executive's office, which arrived Friday. Today, I received an email from an "executive liason" who said they agreed that "R" to "U" via an upgrade should be mileage earning and manually adjusted my account to receive credit. Account and status now reflects those flights.

So despite certain aagents and lower-level SUPs saying this is CX's problem and to go pound sand, AA actually can do something about it (albit at a higher level than a regular SUP, I assume). By the phrasing of the answer, I would say this isn't a one time exception but rather what is supposed to happen for these flights.

Godspeed to any other souls on this journey.
Possible snail mail or FedEx to:

Suzanne Rubin
President – AAdvantage Loyalty Program, American Airlines
4333 Amon Carter Blvd
Fort Worth, TX 76155

Earning AAdvantage Miles on British Airways When Upgraded

Note there are different earning rules dependent on the marketing carrier in these instances.

AA marketed ("codeshare") flights earn per AA earning rules (link).

BA marketed flights are governed in accordance with BAEC rules, but claiming for AAdvantage earn in accordance to the chart (link). If BA upgrades a BA marketed flight to a class of service that earns at a higher rate, then one will earn at that rate - but still in accordance with the BA earnings chart on aa.com.

E.g. If you have a BA marketed flight in L fare class earning 50% EQM, if you upgrade to WT+ E, T or W and that is how your flight is reticketed, you would earn 150% EQM and 10% service class bonus miles. (Just remember no BA marketed flight will earn more than 1.5 EQM per base mile flown. As of Jan 1 2019, Business and First class fare classes earn 2 to 3 EQM.)

No EQD are accrued for ancillary fees such as upgrade, baggage, etc. fees.

AAdvantage Participating Airline Upgrade Awards / PAUA (using AA miles)

AAdvantage miles may be used to secure upgrade awards for partners BA and IB, including code shares, depending on fare purchased.

. . ● Full Fare Economy includes published fares booked in Y or B (excluding Military or Government fares)
. . ● Full Fare Premium Economy refers to World Traveller Plus published fares booked in W on British Airways
. . ● Full Fare Business includes published fares booked in J, D or R on American and C, J, D or R on British Airways

EQM will be generally earned based on originally purchased fare.

Link to thread discussing AA Participating Airline Upgrade Awards / PAUA
Links to BAEC Forum resources:

POUG / Pro-Active Upgrades

A. What is a Pro-active Online Upgrade?

The simple answer: it is a limited special upgrade that may be offered at a time of BA's choosing after your booking is ticketed up to and including online check-in. The offer, if it happens (and this is not guaranteed) will appear in Manage My Booking, either via BA.com or the mobile app. There is no email notification, klaxon sound or flashing beacons to alert you - so now you know why its called a Pro-active Online Upgrade

Please note, POUG rates differ from the rates offered at the airport (see, Airport Upgrade (AUP) cost tracking thread) and also the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.

Link to thread on Pro-active Online Upgrades / POUG and cost tracking
AUP / Airport Upgrades:

Airport Upgrades / AUP may be offered at the airport, or rarely in a lounge if requested.

Link to thread on Airport Upgrades / AUP and cost tracking
UuA / Upgrading using Avios

UuAs can only be applied to tickets issued on 125 stock. In other words tickets issued by BA or BA registered travel agents with ticket numbers beginning 125. Tickets sold by Iberia and American Airlines are issued on different numbered stock and cannot be upgraded using Avios.

Link to post regarding UuA / Upgrading using Avios
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Old Dec 14, 15, 7:42 am
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Earning AA EQ / Award miles etc. BA / British Airways (inc. upgraded flights)

I am very confused andfrustrated becuase I could not get a consistent answer from the AA representatives. Some said YES whilst some said NO

I had booked a round trip flying from KUL-LHR on the World Traveler Plus (T class) which was marketed and operated by BA.

The problem is I had successfully upgraded to the Club World by using the CX Asia Miles. So the fare class of the BA flights was changed to U. I'm a bit worried if the AA system would correctly post the miles into my AA account instead of earning nothing because those flights were upgraded from the fare class T to U.

Since the miles did not post automatically, I have already reqested the missing flight miles online. I understand the process takes time. But my concern is how long it takes for those miles to be posted becuase I've registered the fast track to elite status promotion. So I need to earn the required EQP between September 14 and December 23, 2015.

My theory is even though I flew AA's partner airline, I should have earned the miles based on the fare class of the tickets I bought rather than the fare class of the tickets I upgraded. The same situation also applies to the AA flight which was upgraded by AA miles, right? Please kindly correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you for you time

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Old Dec 14, 15, 7:50 am
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Every time I've booked with CX in PE and upgraded using Asia Miles into J I've had to call in afterwards and request mileage. Never been a problem getting it credited, but it's never happened automatically either. Can't say I've ever dealt with it on BA, however.
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Old Dec 14, 15, 8:01 am
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Every time I've booked with CX in PE and upgraded using Asia Miles into J I've had to call in afterwards and request mileage. Never been a problem getting it credited, but it's never happened automatically either. Can't say I've ever dealt with it on BA, however.
Thanks for your input. May I know that did you wait for 15 days and sumit the request for missing flight miles online or you just call the AA representative directly after the trip?
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Old Dec 14, 15, 9:05 am
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I ended up waiting each time, but that was mostly due to laziness.
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Old Dec 14, 15, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by davidtai View Post
But my concern is how long it takes for those miles to be posted becuase I've registered the fast track to elite status promotion. So I need to earn the required EQP between September 14 and December 23, 2015.
The time that matters is when you took the flight not when the miles post.
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Old Dec 14, 15, 9:21 am
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The time that matters is when you took the flight not when the miles post.
Oh that would be great! You answer gave me a huge relief.
Anyway, I'm a bit impatient because those flight would help me reaching the EXP status!

Thank you btw
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Old Dec 14, 15, 11:20 am
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Wow - had no idea one can upgrade BA flights using Asia miles? Nicely done OP!
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Old Dec 14, 15, 11:00 pm
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Originally Posted by no1cub17 View Post
Wow - had no idea one can upgrade BA flights using Asia miles? Nicely done OP!
Quoted from the rules from the Asia Miles website.

For British Airways, only fare classes Y, B and H are eligible for Economy Class to Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus Class) Upgrade Awards. Only fare classes W, T and E are eligible for Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus Class) to Business Class Upgrade Awards. Upgrade Awards are only applicable from Economy Class to Business Class upgrades for flights without Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus). Only fare classes J, C, D, I and R are eligible for Business Class to First Class Upgrade Awards.

Be reminded that you could only upgrade the flights if both the outbound and the inbound trip cleared.

I hope it might help
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Old Dec 23, 15, 7:32 am
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No miles for flight upgraded from J to F?

Recently flew BA LHR-JFK (purchased AA flight No. but flew BA metal). I bought a paid J ticket, then used 35k AA miles to upgrade to F. Now, I'm not getting any miles for buying a J ticket. Does this sound right??
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Old Dec 23, 15, 8:32 am
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Are you getting no miles or Y miles? Call AAdvantage to get this straightened out. Probably just a mistake. No conspiracy here.
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Old Dec 23, 15, 8:39 am
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I've had lots of problems with BA not crediting miles for flights flown on AA tickets. Just fill in in the online form for missing miles and make sure you keep your boarding pass.
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Old Dec 23, 15, 11:46 am
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No miles for flight upgraded from J to F?

I have noticed that BA took longer to post miles on my last trip with them
Give it a few days you should be fine
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Old Dec 23, 15, 12:25 pm
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If ir has credited as zero miles, then that is an error ; it may have incorrectly classed the flight as a reward 1st class flight

Both award and upgrades come from Z class

If this is the case, call AA and see about getting it fixed

If it just has not shown at all on the account, if the approipriate time has elapsed, put in a missing mileage request
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Old Dec 23, 15, 2:29 pm
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Let's hope this isn't BA following CX's lead on this.

Cliff notes: CX apparently has no longer been rewarding miles to AAdvantage members when paid tickets are upgraded with AsiaMiles, because the upgrade and reward booking code are identical. AA kept saying it was CX's decision whether to award miles, and CX kept saying "U" (or "Z") was not a mileage-earning class. It took a FedEx'ed letter to headquarters for AA to "cave" and award the miles itself.

Here's the resolution post, scroll up for the history.
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Old Dec 23, 15, 11:14 pm
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No miles for flight upgraded from J to F?

Thanks all. I've gotten no miles thus far for the BOS-JFK leg I upgraded to F, but the miles for my first segment (which was in J since it was a two-class aircraft) already posted to my account. I think I'm going to wait for the two weeks or so to pass and submit a missing miles request. I'll try to post an update later.
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