View Poll Results: My plans for dealing with the 2016 AAdvantage changes:
I'm actually benefitting from this - good deal for me.
46
6.80%
I'm neutral - I gain some, lose some. I'll stay.
132
19.53%
I'm not happy, but stuck with AA / oneworld at this point.
176
26.04%
I'm unhappy & will use AA & other airlines opportunistically.
274
40.53%
I'm outta here! Bye, American.
48
7.10%
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AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - DISCUSSION, REACTION & POLL
Nov 17, 2015, 2:08 pm
#91
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ABQ
Programs: Delta Platinum, Southwest A-List
Posts: 1,426
Once you read the entire program, this is actually great for ExPlats and anyone else who is willing to pay for a ticket in the cabin that they want to fly in.
By replacing EQP with EQM you can get to EXP with 50K paid miles instead of appx $66.5 and it will offset the drop in SWU's from 8 to 4.
Now, once the $ based mileage earning scheme goes into effect and you combine it with this year's bonus program for paying for business or first (that has been extended through 2016), the benefits are HUGE - they far, far outweigh any added miles for some routes.
Not bad- now let them work on their customer service issues and they may have a very competitive airline.
By replacing EQP with EQM you can get to EXP with 50K paid miles instead of appx $66.5 and it will offset the drop in SWU's from 8 to 4.
Now, once the $ based mileage earning scheme goes into effect and you combine it with this year's bonus program for paying for business or first (that has been extended through 2016), the benefits are HUGE - they far, far outweigh any added miles for some routes.
Not bad- now let them work on their customer service issues and they may have a very competitive airline.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:09 pm
#92
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: San Jose, CA
Programs: CX Diamond, AA CK (quit 2018), Starwood Platinum, National EXC Elite
Posts: 283
Once you read the entire program, this is actually great for ExPlats and anyone else who is willing to pay for a ticket in the cabin that they want to fly in.
By replacing EQP with EQM you can get to EXP with 50K paid miles instead of appx $66.5 and it will offset the drop in SWU's from 8 to 4.
Now, once the $ based mileage earning scheme goes into effect and you combine it with this year's bonus program for paying for business or first (that has been extended through 2016), the benefits are HUGE - they far, far outweigh any added miles for some routes.
Not bad- now let them work on their customer service issues and they may have a very competitive airline.
By replacing EQP with EQM you can get to EXP with 50K paid miles instead of appx $66.5 and it will offset the drop in SWU's from 8 to 4.
Now, once the $ based mileage earning scheme goes into effect and you combine it with this year's bonus program for paying for business or first (that has been extended through 2016), the benefits are HUGE - they far, far outweigh any added miles for some routes.
Not bad- now let them work on their customer service issues and they may have a very competitive airline.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:09 pm
#93
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SFO, CLT
Programs: AA Bonsai EXP (2.9 MM), AS MVPG
Posts: 1,395
Nov 17, 2015, 2:10 pm
#94
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Park, Metropolis
Programs: AA LT PLT 3MM, Hilton/Marriott/SPG/Club Carlson GLD, IHG PLT
Posts: 4,608
Nov 17, 2015, 2:11 pm
#95
Join Date: May 2013
Location: LHR
Programs: AA EXP, DL DM, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,032
Increase in miles required for redemptions --> each mile is worth less than before. Unless Citi were to start awarding 1.5x miles per dollar as the new base rate, but that has a roughly 0% chance of happening.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:11 pm
#97
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,267
Because the miles that I earn by using my Citi card have significantly less value now. Given the fact that these cards have an AF and the benes are tied to one airline only, I'm much better off canceling the ones that are tied to AA.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:11 pm
#98
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!
Posts: 26,062
They are now paying out miles that for many award tickets will soon be worth less. Let's put it this way: an AA mile 3/21/16 will be worth more than one 3/22/16. At best, one can hope availability improves 3/22/16 and later.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:11 pm
#99
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: South Florida
Programs: DL GM, SPG GOLD, UA DIRT, AA PLAT, US (RIP), Hilton HHonors
Posts: 705
If you wanna check out VX, B6, WN, go ahead... I happen to be looking more into B6 myself (the changes in the BA and IB earning rates are the bigger kicker for me), BUT, with that said, I really don't think the sky is falling with these changes... they were pretty much expected, be happy AA isn't adding a minimum spend requirement for status, and the devaluations are fairly reasonable... These changes are DL's fault, and DL and UA are still worse than AA. Truth be told, after challenging over from being DL GM I'm pretty happy with my experience with AA. I may go for B6 Mosaic instead of AA Plat because my flying patters would have put me flying PHL to TLV and MIA to LHR a lot and those routes either no longer exist or got really cut with AA now, BUT as far as the 2016 changes overall, they're not so bad.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:12 pm
#100
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
Were you somehow expecting that airlines and hotel programs would stop devaluing programs the same way they've been doing for over 20 years? (This is one in a LONG SERIES of AA devaluations, all the way from the 1980's.)
This isn't like having Krugerrands, currency or owning shares of Apple. You're accumulating things that historically have been devalued consistently. So why on earth aren't you burning for something?
This isn't like having Krugerrands, currency or owning shares of Apple. You're accumulating things that historically have been devalued consistently. So why on earth aren't you burning for something?
I still have a large six figure balance of AA miles even as I wasn't clueless about where this was going. I still have time to burn my AA miles, but this is increasingly reminding me of what I had to do with Hilton HHonors and later with DL.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:13 pm
#101
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: Mileage Plus, AAdvantage, Executive Club
Posts: 198
For one, IRROPS phone service. If he's actually JFK based as his profile says, it's a big deal. Can be the diff between being rebooked ahead of the snow or a week and a half later.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:14 pm
#102
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New York
Programs: BAEC Silver, &c.
Posts: 446
Possibly for personal travel? Employer-paid J/F tickets gets the status, and then able to use SWUs to fly the family on vacation for cheap? And the little extras like first lounges when flying J. And better service during IRROPs and the like, although that might be a bit of a canard.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:17 pm
#103
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SFO, CLT
Programs: AA Bonsai EXP (2.9 MM), AS MVPG
Posts: 1,395
Nov 17, 2015, 2:19 pm
#104
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ABQ
Programs: Delta Platinum, Southwest A-List
Posts: 1,426
Possibly for personal travel? Employer-paid J/F tickets gets the status, and then able to use SWUs to fly the family on vacation for cheap? And the little extras like first lounges when flying J. And better service during IRROPs and the like, although that might be a bit of a canard.
Nov 17, 2015, 2:22 pm
#105
Join Date: May 2007
Location: DFW Texas
Programs: AA (ExecPlat, >2MM), United (Gold, >1 MM), HH (Diamond), SPG (Gold), Accorhotels (Gold)
Posts: 92
The minimum spend will come later. AAdvantage has joined the race to the bottom. I think that I will get my flying done by the first half of the year, before the new milage rules come into play since I buy the cheapest tickets I can to stretch the travel budget.