View Poll Results: My plans for dealing with the 2016 AAdvantage changes:
I'm actually benefitting from this - good deal for me.
46
6.80%
I'm neutral - I gain some, lose some. I'll stay.
132
19.53%
I'm not happy, but stuck with AA / oneworld at this point.
176
26.04%
I'm unhappy & will use AA & other airlines opportunistically.
274
40.53%
I'm outta here! Bye, American.
48
7.10%
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AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - DISCUSSION, REACTION & POLL
#978
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
AA elite status (and class of service) bonus schemes remain the same as they've always been for now for AA and partners: elite status bonus miles on those oneworld / airline partners that award them, regardless of which airline's ticket stock they are written on.
Bonus miles
Executive Platinum and Platinum members will earn a 100% bonus and Gold members will earn a 25% bonus based on the base miles or minimum miles guaranteed, when traveling with American and participating oneworld airlines.
Executive Platinum and Platinum members will earn a 100% bonus and Gold members will earn a 25% bonus based on the base miles or minimum miles guaranteed, when traveling with American and participating oneworld airlines.
Earn AAdvantage Miles
To earn AAdvantage miles when you are flying with another oneworld member airline, you do not need to join a separate frequent flyer program. Simply give your AAdvantage number when you make your reservation or when you check in for your flight. After the flight, please allow up to 30 days for the AAdvantage miles to be automatically credited to your account, which you can view online at aa.com. To request missing miles, please complete the Request Flight Miles form.
The number of AAdvantage miles you can earn when flying oneworld member airlines depends on your fare class and which airline you're traveling on. To find out how many miles you can earn with each airline, view the individual airline page.
When flying on oneworld member airline, you can:
To earn AAdvantage miles when you are flying with another oneworld member airline, you do not need to join a separate frequent flyer program. Simply give your AAdvantage number when you make your reservation or when you check in for your flight. After the flight, please allow up to 30 days for the AAdvantage miles to be automatically credited to your account, which you can view online at aa.com. To request missing miles, please complete the Request Flight Miles form.
The number of AAdvantage miles you can earn when flying oneworld member airlines depends on your fare class and which airline you're traveling on. To find out how many miles you can earn with each airline, view the individual airline page.
When flying on oneworld member airline, you can:
- Earn base miles counting toward AAdvantage elite status
- Earn class of service bonus miles
- Earn Elite Status Bonus
Check the charts for individual airlines on aa.com.
AAdvantage >> Earn miles >> Airlines >> Specific airline
E.g. you'll earn elite status bonus miles on BA / British Airways
AAdvantage elite status member benefits
Travel on British Airways and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership. AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum and Gold members traveling on British Airways will also enjoy:
Learn more about elite status bonus miles
Travel on British Airways and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership. AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum and Gold members traveling on British Airways will also enjoy:
- Minimum mileage guarantee
- oneworld airline recognition and benefits
- Executive Platinum and Platinum members also receive Additional elite status bonus miles and AAdvantage Gold members receive a 25% bonus when traveling on British Airways.
status member benefits
Travel on S7 Airlines and its affiliate airline counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership. AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum and Gold members traveling on S7 also enjoy:
oneworld airline recognition and benefits
Travel on S7 Airlines and its affiliate airline counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership. AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum and Gold members traveling on S7 also enjoy:
oneworld airline recognition and benefits
#979
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
No EQM earning detail on the account page!
AA yet fails again. WHY this lack of transparency? Don't these penny pinchers understand that the more opacity they provide in their web pages and their account information, the more passengers will call and tie up valuable personnel resources on relatively trivial issues? (And of course, with the unequal knowledge of the poorly trained agents more passengers will get upset when they're given drivel over the phone.)
The new account stats display does not reflect EQM in any meaningful way, so we must yet once again individually track earnings if we want accuracy.
The new account display only reflects EQM as a grand YTD total. The columns in the general display include:
Description: miles origin / source
Date: date miles were earned
Base miles: credited miles flown
Bonus miles: additional bonus (RDM) granted
Total award miles: total RDM awarded for this item
So, no itemized reporting of EQM awarded that we can see per item / flight, trammeled transparency with only the YTD EQM total displayed with the YTD segments rows at the top.
The new account display only reflects EQM as a grand YTD total. The columns in the general display include:
Description: miles origin / source
Date: date miles were earned
Base miles: credited miles flown
Bonus miles: additional bonus (RDM) granted
Total award miles: total RDM awarded for this item
So, no itemized reporting of EQM awarded that we can see per item / flight, trammeled transparency with only the YTD EQM total displayed with the YTD segments rows at the top.
#981
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
Note: the 2015 American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles promotion has been extended through this year, until the new, revenue-based redeemable miles / RDM earning scheme is implemented.
#982
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Usually in SAN or Central Europe.
Programs: AA:EXP/1MM. Accor/Radisson:Silver; HH:Gold; ICH:Plt Amb.
Posts: 22,307
Why? It would seem that AA would want to incentivize this segment to buy a premium fare on AA (as opposed to a cheap coach one, or none at all) even more than a Gold or Plat. As they are most likely to freely "airline shop" for a premium fare. Whereas the Gold and Plat very much take their elite status into the purchase consideration. Moreover, when AA does the promotional bonuses (like the current one for TATL flying), everyone is getting the same bonus amount (relevant to the fare class) regardless of their FF status. But with the existing elite level bonuses in the program, they will always receive more FF miles than a non-elite for the same ticket purchased. Why is that not enough?
Last edited by Fanjet; Jan 5, 2016 at 3:54 pm
#983
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
This is a class of service bonus, which has never had a status component; what's different is that EXPs get larger class of service bonuses through this promotion. Elites still get their status bonus in addition to this extra class of service bonus.
#984
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
Why? It would seem that AA would want to incentivize this segment to buy a premium fare on AA (as opposed to a cheap coach one, or none at all) even more than a Gold or Plat. As they are most likely to freely "airline shop" for a premium fare. Whereas the Gold and Plat very much take their elite status into the purchase consideration. Moreover, when AA does the promotional bonuses (like the current one for TATL flying), everyone is getting the same bonus amount (relevant to the fare class) regardless of their FF status. But with the existing elite level bonuses in the program, they will always receive more FF miles than a non-elite for the same ticket purchased. Why is that not enough?
I doubt many kettles even know about that incentive. I mean hell, get those golds and plats out of the mindset of using stickers for upgrades and actually buying F fares. I'm not necessarily saying gold/plat should get the same incentive as an EXP, but something in between that and a kettle. Even with the incentive, there's no guarantee the kettle's going to stay. You have a much higher likelihood of the gold/plat staying. Why not reward that and further encourage them?
#985
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Usually in SAN or Central Europe.
Programs: AA:EXP/1MM. Accor/Radisson:Silver; HH:Gold; ICH:Plt Amb.
Posts: 22,307
Then why offer a tiered bonus at all? By your logic, the EXP will be the most tied to AA regardless - they should get the least amount then, right?
I doubt many kettles even know about that incentive. I mean hell, get those golds and plats out of the mindset of using stickers for upgrades and actually buying F fares. I'm not necessarily saying gold/plat should get the same incentive as an EXP, but something in between that and a kettle. Even with the incentive, there's no guarantee the kettle's going to stay. You have a much higher likelihood of the gold/plat staying. Why not reward that and further encourage them?
I doubt many kettles even know about that incentive. I mean hell, get those golds and plats out of the mindset of using stickers for upgrades and actually buying F fares. I'm not necessarily saying gold/plat should get the same incentive as an EXP, but something in between that and a kettle. Even with the incentive, there's no guarantee the kettle's going to stay. You have a much higher likelihood of the gold/plat staying. Why not reward that and further encourage them?
#986
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Executive Club (Silver), Le Club Accor (Silver)
Posts: 680
Qualifying through segments
I've read through a number of threads but can't find too much detail on qualifying through segments. Previously, I've always achieved Platinum by flying a number of cheap long hauls each year, but with partner earnings down to 50% or less in most cases, this is no longer viable. I've never cared about segments in the past but usually end up with 40-45, so hitting 60 by always going the long way round could work.
My question is: what is an elite qualifying segment? Is it the case that as long as any Oneworld (or AS) marketed flight earns at least 1% EQMs, then that flight would count as an EQS? Would I be right in thinking (for example) that Cathay's deep discount fares, which earn 0% EQMs, would also NOT earn me an elite qualifying segment?
Cheers!
My question is: what is an elite qualifying segment? Is it the case that as long as any Oneworld (or AS) marketed flight earns at least 1% EQMs, then that flight would count as an EQS? Would I be right in thinking (for example) that Cathay's deep discount fares, which earn 0% EQMs, would also NOT earn me an elite qualifying segment?
Cheers!
#987
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
My question is: what is an elite qualifying segment? Is it the case that as long as any Oneworld (or AS) marketed flight earns at least 1% EQMs, then that flight would count as an EQS? Would I be right in thinking (for example) that Cathay's deep discount fares, which earn 0% EQMs, would also NOT earn me an elite qualifying segment?
Cheers!
Cheers!
#988
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 29
2x EQM and the 500-mile minimum
Just had an interesting revelation about the 2x EQM multiplier (apologies if this has been discussed).
I've flown exactly one trip so far, one way AUS => DFW => LAX in First (P). This is normally a 1,735 mile trip (1235 + 500). However on my AAdvantage account page, it shows my Elite Qualifying Miles as 2,970. However, my assumption was this should have been 3,470.
I called the EXP desk, and the agent agreed that my assumption seemed right, and passed my to AAdvantage CS to confirm. After explaining to the agent, she put me on hold to get clarification, and then came back with (what was news to her) that the 2x is only on the FLOWN miles. So basically, because AUS => DFW is 183 miles, doubling that only takes me to 364, so I still only earn the 500 mile minimum. So it's basically the greater of either 1) double air miles, or 2) 500 miles.
She said that she's passed along that the elite qualifying info needs to be clearer (that the "flown" miles component truly means "flown", not doubling the 500-mile minimum), and put yet another "request" up the chain to ask for more transparency on aa.com for EQM detail.
Anyway, maybe this was already known, but it wasn't quite how I was planning things (given how most flights have an AUS <=> DFW leg).
I've flown exactly one trip so far, one way AUS => DFW => LAX in First (P). This is normally a 1,735 mile trip (1235 + 500). However on my AAdvantage account page, it shows my Elite Qualifying Miles as 2,970. However, my assumption was this should have been 3,470.
I called the EXP desk, and the agent agreed that my assumption seemed right, and passed my to AAdvantage CS to confirm. After explaining to the agent, she put me on hold to get clarification, and then came back with (what was news to her) that the 2x is only on the FLOWN miles. So basically, because AUS => DFW is 183 miles, doubling that only takes me to 364, so I still only earn the 500 mile minimum. So it's basically the greater of either 1) double air miles, or 2) 500 miles.
She said that she's passed along that the elite qualifying info needs to be clearer (that the "flown" miles component truly means "flown", not doubling the 500-mile minimum), and put yet another "request" up the chain to ask for more transparency on aa.com for EQM detail.
Anyway, maybe this was already known, but it wasn't quite how I was planning things (given how most flights have an AUS <=> DFW leg).
#989
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
Just had an interesting revelation about the 2x EQM multiplier (apologies if this has been discussed).
I've flown exactly one trip so far, one way AUS => DFW => LAX in First (P). This is normally a 1,735 mile trip (1235 + 500). However on my AAdvantage account page, it shows my Elite Qualifying Miles as 2,970. However, my assumption was this should have been 3,470.
I called the EXP desk, and the agent agreed that my assumption seemed right, and passed my to AAdvantage CS to confirm. After explaining to the agent, she put me on hold to get clarification, and then came back with (what was news to her) that the 2x is only on the FLOWN miles. So basically, because AUS => DFW is 183 miles, doubling that only takes me to 364, so I still only earn the 500 mile minimum. So it's basically the greater of either 1) double air miles, or 2) 500 miles.
She said that she's passed along that the elite qualifying info needs to be clearer (that the "flown" miles component truly means "flown", not doubling the 500-mile minimum), and put yet another "request" up the chain to ask for more transparency on aa.com for EQM detail.
Anyway, maybe this was already known, but it wasn't quite how I was planning things (given how most flights have an AUS <=> DFW leg).
I've flown exactly one trip so far, one way AUS => DFW => LAX in First (P). This is normally a 1,735 mile trip (1235 + 500). However on my AAdvantage account page, it shows my Elite Qualifying Miles as 2,970. However, my assumption was this should have been 3,470.
I called the EXP desk, and the agent agreed that my assumption seemed right, and passed my to AAdvantage CS to confirm. After explaining to the agent, she put me on hold to get clarification, and then came back with (what was news to her) that the 2x is only on the FLOWN miles. So basically, because AUS => DFW is 183 miles, doubling that only takes me to 364, so I still only earn the 500 mile minimum. So it's basically the greater of either 1) double air miles, or 2) 500 miles.
She said that she's passed along that the elite qualifying info needs to be clearer (that the "flown" miles component truly means "flown", not doubling the 500-mile minimum), and put yet another "request" up the chain to ask for more transparency on aa.com for EQM detail.
Anyway, maybe this was already known, but it wasn't quite how I was planning things (given how most flights have an AUS <=> DFW leg).
#990
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: DAY
Programs: Marriott Platinum, HHonors Diamond, AA ExPLT
Posts: 116
Just had an interesting revelation about the 2x EQM multiplier (apologies if this has been discussed).
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After explaining to the agent, she put me on hold to get clarification, and then came back with (what was news to her) that the 2x is only on the FLOWN miles. So basically, because AUS => DFW is 183 miles, doubling that only takes me to 364, so I still only earn the 500 mile minimum. So it's basically the greater of either 1) double air miles, or 2) 500 miles.
...
After explaining to the agent, she put me on hold to get clarification, and then came back with (what was news to her) that the 2x is only on the FLOWN miles. So basically, because AUS => DFW is 183 miles, doubling that only takes me to 364, so I still only earn the 500 mile minimum. So it's basically the greater of either 1) double air miles, or 2) 500 miles.