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AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - DISCUSSION, REACTION & POLL

View Poll Results: My plans for dealing with the 2016 AAdvantage changes:
I'm actually benefitting from this - good deal for me.
46
6.80%
I'm neutral - I gain some, lose some. I'll stay.
132
19.53%
I'm not happy, but stuck with AA / oneworld at this point.
176
26.04%
I'm unhappy & will use AA & other airlines opportunistically.
274
40.53%
I'm outta here! Bye, American.
48
7.10%
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AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - DISCUSSION, REACTION & POLL

Old Nov 17, 15, 2:51 pm
  #76  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
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So depressing but makes sense

I don't know you all, but I'm 99.99% sure I'm the saddest of all. I had such a good thing going, but I do understand. AA was losing so much $ on me and my status benefits. Sigh. I guess I'll consider using up my miles and going rogue.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:53 pm
  #77  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Originally Posted by callmedtop View Post
Phew. Then I'll be done with AA miles, and will refocus back to United. Like someone mentioned before, similar costs, but MUCH better availability, a easier website, etc. Will miss having free changes thanks to EXP, but the price to pay.
+1. Also, on award bookings to Europe UA does not add on fuel surcharges.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:53 pm
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:54 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Email I just sent to AAdvantage:

"Wow, AAdvantage, from first to worst in 2016. So now you have a frequent flyer program that mirrors Delta and United but your operational efficiency is at the bottom, it routinely takes 45 minutes to an hour to receive bags (with no guarantee), your premium cabin food has been downgraded, your US Airways planes have no power, no AVOD, no MCE etc, etc.

"Tell me: why on God's green earth should I choose to fly with you? Understand that, based on increased mileage requirements for awards and massively decreased mileage earning, I will be looking very hard at switching carriers and will strongly encourage friends and business partners to book away from AA. After all, if AAdvantage is the same as all the others, then we might as well book with the much better airline - which, for the past several years, has been Delta."

Forgot to mention that, with a greater number of partners, availability is generally better when redeeming on UA and DL. Very dumb move by AAdvantage - no competitive edge remaining.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:55 pm
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by tonytifao View Post
New Disadvantage program will no longer win the FT award LOL
Don't you worry - they still win. It'll be renamed Best of the Worst!

On Saturday, I was calculating the nights needed for Lifetime Platinum with SPG. By Monday, that changed to how to transfer a fair bit of miles to AA only to realize the miles would be even more worthless.

All these miles and not even time to make great use of them. It's like sitting on a pile of turd sprinkled with gold dust.

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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:56 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Originally Posted by rwoman View Post
Being London-based and often flying BA in economy just got a lot more painful.
I feel your pain. I was half looking forward to the 2x EQM on discounted J until I found out it only pertains to AA flight nubmers. So things didn't change a bit for me, moving from 1.5 EQP to 1.5 EQM, amount of flying does not reduce and losing 4 SWU in the process.

The new program dinged partner earning hard. Looks like they are really focusing on making that buck for themselves.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:56 pm
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Time to check out Virgin.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:57 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: FNT, but DTW if I can't help it
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I typically do a month-long trip to LHR and then nestle a BA trip somewhere else in the middle. The 50% EQM thing is going to make BA completely lose my business... I guess I'll have to re-connect in the USA to use AA instead of flying LHR-SIN-SYD on BA.

As a PLT I'm really unhappy, particularly with the RDM earning chart for the second half of 2016.

Also, the $10 increase in the price of 500-mile upgrades was an extra twist of the knife.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by prw555 View Post
Not CK, lowly EXP. This year over 300k EQP, and last month CS gave me 6 extra SWU's. 50% of my OW spend is on CX, so although total spend over $60k, only 50% is on AA metal, so they won't give me CK.
Makes sense. But, those extra SWUs are hardly an announced benefit currently, I would sense similar will occur in the future for you .
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Old Nov 17, 15, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by josmul123 View Post
As a PLT I'm really unhappy, particularly with the RDM earning chart for the second half of 2016.
Agreed.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 3:05 pm
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I may have missed it, but was there a change to the $75/15K Miles and co-pay upgrade to First?

SPG yesterday, AA Today...boom-boom
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Old Nov 17, 15, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by badjuju View Post
All these miles and not even time to make great use of them.
Were you somehow expecting that airlines and hotel programs would stop devaluing programs the same way they've been doing for over 20 years? (This is one in a LONG SERIES of AA devaluations, all the way from the 1980's.)

This isn't like having Krugerrands, currency or owning shares of Apple. You're accumulating things that historically have been devalued consistently. So why on earth aren't you burning for something?

Originally Posted by TheBOSman View Post
I have zero regrets about all of the wonderful tickets I booked in the last 12-13 months .
Exactly. Hoarding miles and points for the future is like stockpiling snow during a Chinook.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 3:07 pm
  #89  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Programs: UA life 1K, 2MM; AA Life Pt 3mm; DL nada now!; AS nada now; BA, FD, CX, LH, DD, Amex Pt, Diners
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What it feels like to await the death penalty

We knew it was coming but that doesn't make it any more pleasant.

So this is bad isn't it? I ditched UA and DL in 2015. Looks like it's time to seriously think about Southwest. I have known this was coming for a decade.

And looks like some massive mileage runs for miles in June and then the term goes in the history books.

It was fun while it lasted. Probably too much fun which makes this a sad day.

But it looks like a great half a year ahead of us on AA. A trip to Sydney I think. And Europe. And maybe Asia. Do I have the time??
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Old Nov 17, 15, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by wdchuck1 View Post
Once you read the entire program, this is actually great for ExPlats
As someone else said earlier in the thread...they have to save something to cut in 2017.
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