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AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - DISCUSSION, REACTION & POLL

View Poll Results: My plans for dealing with the 2016 AAdvantage changes:
I'm actually benefitting from this - good deal for me.
46
6.80%
I'm neutral - I gain some, lose some. I'll stay.
132
19.53%
I'm not happy, but stuck with AA / oneworld at this point.
176
26.04%
I'm unhappy & will use AA & other airlines opportunistically.
274
40.53%
I'm outta here! Bye, American.
48
7.10%
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AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - DISCUSSION, REACTION & POLL

Old Nov 17, 15, 1:59 pm
  #31  
 
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Originally Posted by Superguy View Post
Wait until next year.
I have no idea how much I will be flying in 2017, let alone 2018. Too much can change between now and then, both for the good and the not-so-good, and not having to do with AAdvantage.

Not gonna waste any brain cells thinking about a change in 2017 qualifying for 2018 flying.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by crimsona View Post
Europe to Middle East J and F going from 30 and 40 to 42.5 and 62.5
Middle East to Australia J and F going from 45 and 60 to 80 and 100

Affects Etihad residences.
Yep this kills the sweet spot in the award chart for EY Apartments.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer View Post
Yes. AA just devalued the Citi cards. Citi must be thrilled.
I'll cancel mine today just for funsies .
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag View Post
Damn. I missed that part

Still better than BA, but 2016 may be my last year with OW.
With the partner earnings of the new AA I am left with no choice but to burn my stash of AA miles and just get the Amex platinum for lounges

I wish they would have given us decent notice as I bought BA J tickets on TATL routes had I known Of these changes I would have bought AA coded flights. 45 days notice is low!!!
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:05 pm
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Considering most of my redemptions are premium seats to China, this award change isn't too favorable.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
I'll take AAdv's CX and even JL award F availability over UA's SQ award availability any day. But, yeah, I hear ya. Will have to see if AAdv availability now changes at all as a result of the hikes though.
SQ is a unicorn, true, but I think *A generally has more and better airlines than most of OW. Getting a ticket on TG, OZ, or NH is a darn good consolation prize.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:06 pm
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Well we all saw this coming...not nearly as bad as I had expected in terms of award chart. Still less than UA in many cases the cost of F travel.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Superguy View Post
SQ is a unicorn, true, but I think *A generally has more and better airlines than most of OW. Getting a ticket on TG, OZ, or NH is a darn good consolation prize.
No argument there. I'm a big fan/user of UA miles-- have flown all three of those recently using 'em, even when the disparity with AAdv was very big.

Originally Posted by Blootch View Post
...Still less than UA in many cases the cost of F travel.
But just slightly, I think, correct?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by TheBOSman View Post
Expect award availability to get much better if you can afford to spend it, partner redemptions to Europe are far more available post-deval with UA than they were pre-deval. The BA YQ remains an irritant though and partly undoes the lower AA cost .



I can assure you partner availability will get better after the devaluation, as noted partner awards with UA are much more available now than they were before.
I beg to disagree, based on my eurocentric perspective, availability with UA was always OK, even in high season partially because options on ten European partners are a lot more than on three.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:08 pm
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Not unexpected. But it's a bloodbath.
But at first glance, still seems slightly better than Delta and United. They did their homework.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
And I applaud that!
I was somewhat planning to do that anyway, but in light of my most frequent redemptions increasing 30-40% (or more), the last bit of real value to me is gone. I'm clearly better off with a 2% card now.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:09 pm
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I wish people took to email or Twitter to express their dissatisfaction instead of just complaining here.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:10 pm
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Well, I've got about 175K miles left on my AA account. That leaves me enough for Christmas 2016 under the existing rules. I'll book both myself and my SO on different Cathay flights, both in F (since they don't release 2 F anymore), and then change the date/routing close-in (December 2016) to hopefully get in the same flight. That shouldn't change the original 67.5K per person cost, as it won't trigger a refare.

Phew. Then I'll be done with AA miles, and will refocus back to United. Like someone mentioned before, similar costs, but MUCH better availability, a easier website, etc. Will miss having free changes thanks to EXP, but the price to pay.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Juanefny View Post
I wish people took to email or Twitter to express their dissatisfaction instead of just complaining here.
Complaining won't work.
This is what you get when corrupt politicians, owned by Wall Street and Big Airline stifle competition and let everyone merge with everyone else.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag View Post
I beg to disagree, based on my eurocentric perspective, availability with UA was always OK, even in high season partially because options on ten European partners are a lot more than on three.
Availability has unequivocally gotten better with LH F post-deval, the cabin most affected by the pricing change. Most of the other award prices were not affected nearly as much.

Also, not all of those partners fly TATL, and BA serves more destinations with more flights in North America than LH does. But Star Alliance is simply larger than oneworld, no doubts there.
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