View Poll Results: My plans for dealing with the 2016 AAdvantage changes:
I'm actually benefitting from this - good deal for me.
46
6.80%
I'm neutral - I gain some, lose some. I'll stay.
132
19.53%
I'm not happy, but stuck with AA / oneworld at this point.
176
26.04%
I'm unhappy & will use AA & other airlines opportunistically.
274
40.53%
I'm outta here! Bye, American.
48
7.10%
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AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - DISCUSSION, REACTION & POLL
#346
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!
Posts: 26,062
Want me to do one for my G4 flight I did last month? It actually wasn't that bad and was far cheaper than any AA ticket I've EVER paid for (even the honored mistake ones ).
#347
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
#348
Join Date: Oct 2014
Programs: AA Plat, SPG Ambassador
Posts: 5
System-wides are unfortunate, but I imagine it was a choice to cut the allotment or the eligible fare classes. I think they made the right call.
Wish the rest of these changes had been in place last year. Probably would have earned at least 100k extra points / miles, even though I started the year as a plat. Would have also probably made EP based on the published criteria (flew mostly discount domestic first) versus a revenue exception at the tail end of the year.
It's pretty clear what they're doing with these two changes though, trying to win loyalty from customers who buy into first because they can fill coach regardless right now.
Wish the rest of these changes had been in place last year. Probably would have earned at least 100k extra points / miles, even though I started the year as a plat. Would have also probably made EP based on the published criteria (flew mostly discount domestic first) versus a revenue exception at the tail end of the year.
It's pretty clear what they're doing with these two changes though, trying to win loyalty from customers who buy into first because they can fill coach regardless right now.
#349
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: NH Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 542
No reason to stick around with AA with this change ...convenience, service and price become more important
#351
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: NH Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 542
Never expected anything different from this Parker led Mgt. team...just about everything is being degraded (although I do give them credit for purchasing new aircraft) including # of First seats, private label snacks in first, etc.
Thank goodness I hit the 2M mark and have reduced my flying (of course who knows if million miler program will continue)
Thank goodness I hit the 2M mark and have reduced my flying (of course who knows if million miler program will continue)
#352
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MCO
Programs: AA, B6, DL, EK, EY, QR, SQ, UA, Amex Plat, Marriott Tit, HHonors Gold
Posts: 12,809
#353
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
More EXPs that are incidental (and perhaps less "loyal") EXPs -- that's my bet.
First you boost the size of the herd. Then you can afford to slaughter and fleece the herd without being as concerned about people (even legitimately) crying wolf.
DL leads the way, and that was DL's path.
First you boost the size of the herd. Then you can afford to slaughter and fleece the herd without being as concerned about people (even legitimately) crying wolf.
DL leads the way, and that was DL's path.
#354
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FIND ME ON TWITTER FOR THE LATEST
Posts: 27,730
Left a less-than-ideal situation in search of a unrealistic, idealized, grass-is-greener, better one.
#355
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: BZN
Programs: AA:LT Platinum DL:LT Gold UA:1P MAR:LT Titanium
Posts: 8,289
I'm not saying that these changes will suddenly cause AA award availability to suddenly open up. Rather, it may not improve it at all. But if it helps stabilize it as market prices and general demand for seats creep up, that's a good thing and may boost the actual value of banked miles over time.
That's because paying you less won't make a marked impact on inflation. But AA minting substantially fewer miles and statuses will help counter award inflation, even while market price inflation creeps up, as noted above.
#356
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
#357
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: AAdvantage Gold, AS Gold, SPG Gold, Emerald Club
Posts: 237
More EXPs that are incidental (and perhaps less "loyal") EXPs -- that's my bet.
First you boost the size of the herd. Then you can afford to slaughter and fleece the herd without being as concerned about people (even legitimately) crying wolf.
DL leads the way, and that was DL's path.
First you boost the size of the herd. Then you can afford to slaughter and fleece the herd without being as concerned about people (even legitimately) crying wolf.
DL leads the way, and that was DL's path.
#358
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PVG
Programs: BA Gold, TK E+, ex AA EXP
Posts: 510
I am mostly disappointed in the big increase to redeem miles as I use these mostly for my wife travel, for the SWU I'm struggling to use them every year, I keep giving them away to colleagues or to upgrade from J to F, which I can definitely live without.
On the earning side, it will make me feel better when I pay last minute ticket at a very high price, at least I'll get more out of my money in terms of RDM.
For the rest, I would have like that at least OW F get 2RDM per miles flown.
On the earning side, it will make me feel better when I pay last minute ticket at a very high price, at least I'll get more out of my money in terms of RDM.
For the rest, I would have like that at least OW F get 2RDM per miles flown.
#359
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: AAdvantage Gold, AS Gold, SPG Gold, Emerald Club
Posts: 237
All they'd get are longer bag waits, less service, fewer amenities in-flight, and ancient planes (unless they already live in a hub city)
If UA/DL were really cutthroat, they'd immediately push their FFPs closer to AA's old model, and poach a ton of customers overnight.
#360
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: AAdvantage Gold, AS Gold, SPG Gold, Emerald Club
Posts: 237
This is likely common knowledge around here, but for those who may be wondering:
I tweeted at Alaska Air last night, and their rep did confirm that they will status match customers coming over from AA.
Just FYI.
I tweeted at Alaska Air last night, and their rep did confirm that they will status match customers coming over from AA.
Just FYI.