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JUST THE FACTS: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes Announced 17 Nov 2015

JUST THE FACTS: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes Announced 17 Nov 2015

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AAdvantage Program Changes for 2016 - Just the Facts
as announced 17 Nov 2015 in FAQ on aa.com

PLEASE READ BEFORE ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS: we are seeing the same questions come up time and again, and those are often addressed here. NOTE: this thread is being closely monitored and moderated as needed to ensure it stays within the narrow remit of its topic.


Please see and post to AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - Discussion and Reaction all reactions, speculation about next steps, opinions, discussion, praise, complaints etc.

Link to AAdvantage program updates and FAQ links (17 Nov 2015)

New related threads:

FAQ: Award changes after 22 March 2016 - which incur redeposit, which not (Award changes 22 March 2016 or after may incur award miles redeposit (fees) and significant increases of miles required to issue new ones - but some changes may be made without doing so.)

See Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partners 2016 for more about earning EQM.

See Earning AA Award / Redeemable Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016 for more regarding AAdvantage Award ("Redeemable") Miles.
Link to Gary Leff's article with charts, etc.

Also: brp has revised his spreadsheet for 2016 conditions - now named Miles Tracker v. 8.0. It can be downloaded from Gargoyle's page linked to in the OP, or here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Tracker-v8.xls (NOTE: due to technical problems, the proper spreadsheet was not uploaded.)

AA reducing some checked baggage allowance tickets pchs on / after 29 Mar 2016

Elite Qualification and Earning Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) - Change 1 Jan 2016
In 2016, there will be two methods to qualify for elite status:
  • Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) or Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS)

  • Elite Qualifying Points (EQP) no longer exist (EQM replaced them).

  • Thresholds for elite status qualification remain the same as 2015.
EQM will continue to be calculated based on distance flown (base miles). All EQM on AA marketed flights ("AA codeshares" / "AA coded flights") will earn at least 1 EQM per mile flown, with bonus multipliers for higher fares (regardless of operating carrier, AA itself or another carrier):


AA Marketed Flights Link
  • 3 EQMs/mile – Full-fare First or Business / F, J
  • 2 EQMs/mile - Discount First or Business / A, P, D, R, I
  • 1.5 EQMs/mile – Full-fare Main Cabin / Y, B and W when AA marketed on airline partners
  • 1 EQM/mile - Discount Main Cabin / all other Main Cabin fares
  • This applies to all AA marketed flight numbers, regardless of operating carrier.
  • Elites continue to earn 500 EQM minimum per segment

    Originally Posted by brp View Post
    Further confirmation of above from inside AA. He (JonNYC) got a message from AAdvantage

    Originally Posted by JonNYC Vie
    That's what I'm told as well-- fix on the way, system not operating as intended at present.
    Further confirmation of above from inside AA. He got a message from AAdvantage
    Originally Posted by AAdvantage
    Thanks for your questions on EQM earning. There is a glitch in how the minimum mileage guarantee for EQMs is being calculated. The calculation should credit the 500 mile minimum before applying the EQM multiplier. Beginning in the next few weeks, we will be running a retroactive process to “true up” any accounts where the member did not earn the proper number of EQMs. This process will continue to run until the calculation can be reprogrammed in the AAdvantage system.
    So, they will do an adjustment for those that were shorted so far and the system will soon be fixed for real.
    Cheers.

    So, they will do an adjustment for those that were shorted so far and the system will soon be fixed for real.

    Cheers.
AA Elite-Qualifying Partner Airlines
  • 1.5 EQMs/mile - First, Business, and Premium Economy
  • 1.0 EQMs/mile - Full-fare economy (typically Y and B, but varies by partner)
  • 0.5 EQMs/mile - All other mileage-earning economy fares
  • This applies to partner-marketed flights which are eligible to earn AAdvantage miles (typically meaning operated by oneworld carriers and affiliates, though this varies by partner), even if operated by AA.
Link to aa.com Partner Airline Miles Earning Charts as of 1 Jan 2016.

The is no minimum dollar spending requirement to obtain status.

AAdvantage Miles Award Charts - Change 22 Mar 2016
Link to American Airlines Award Charts as of 22 Mar 2016 (Note: some region descriptions were updated ~10 Feb 2016.)

See this post by Smiley90 for a compilation of new mileage redemption charts and changes.

Link to oneworld and other airline Award Charts as of 22 Mar 2016

Link to tool for old and new award chart comparison by bgriz18.

The number of miles required for many awards changed effective March 22, 2016. Award flights ticketed on or after March 22, 2016 will be subject to the new award charts.

In addition, off-peak (OP) periods have been sharply reduced. For example, Europe OP has changed from Oct. 15-May 15 to Nov. 1-Dec. 14 & Jan. 10-Mar. 14.
NOTE: Region changes

  • Bolivia and Manaus, Brasil: changing from South America 2 to South America 1
  • Venezuela: changing from South America 1 to South America 2
  • Guam: changing from Asia 2 to South Pacific
  • Sri Lanka: changing from Asia 2 to Indian Subcontinent/Middle East
  • Kiribati, Palau, Solomon Islands and Tuvalu: added to South Pacific region
Earning Redeemable Miles (RDMs) / Award Miles - Change second half of 2016 (EST. ~1 OCT 2016)
For the first part of 2016, RDMs will continue to be earned as they are today. Sometime (most likely later) in "the second half of 2016" RDMs will switch to spend-based model, akin to Delta and United.

RDMs earned will be the base fare plus carrier-imposed fees (excluding any government-imposed taxes and fees) times the following multiplier based on status level:
  • 5 miles/U.S. dollar – non-status AAdvantage member
  • 7 miles/U.S. dollar – Gold Member
  • 8 miles/U.S. dollar – Platinum Member
  • 11 miles/U.S. dollar – Executive Platinum Member
It appears from the FAQ NO 500 mile minimum for elites - further information will be forthcoming from AA as these changes roll out.
In the example below, in Costa Rican Colones so used only for illustrative purposes, the airport and countered fees and taxes would be excluded from RDM calculations:

As it states in the thread specific to this issue, it appears ~01 October is the likely start date for revenue-based Award Miles earning - and they'll announce one month in advance.

Earning AA Award / "Redeemable" Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016

Originally Posted by Fernando_BR View Post
(2 May 2016)

Hi everyone,

This is what I´ve read on a Brazilian blog.

The blogger met Suzane Rubin on the T-Mobile Arena, and posted that she told him that they would not change before September, and probably only in October, with a 1-month notice.

I have a booked roundtrip Sao Paulo to Dallas in August, so I hope he is right and this information helps !

I don´t know him, but I follow his blog. You can check it (in Portuguese):
http://www.mestredasmilhas.com/2016/...ards-2016.html

(Reformatted for wiki use.)

"Agora vamos às novidades. Tive o privilégio de conversar particularmente com a Suzane Rubin, e a equipe do AAdvantage, e já posso adiantar algumas informações aqui. Eles me confirmaram que a mudança para revenue não irá ocorrer antes de setembro, mas com data provável em Outubro deste ano, e com pelo menos 1 mês de aviso prévio. Também o crédito de pontos será na data do voo, ou seja, se você compra uma passagem agora, e voa somente em dezembro, provavelmente irá receber pontos, e não milhas pela distância voada."

Translated:

Now for the news. I had the privilege to talk particularly with Suzanne Rubin and the AAdvantage team, and I can share some advance information here. It was confirmed to me that the change to revenue (based earning) will not occur before September, but with a probable date in October this year, and with at least one month's notice. Also the credit points will be for the date of the flight, or if you buy a ticket now, and fly only in December, will probably get points, but not (Award / Redeemable) miles by distance flown.

Business Extra changes

Effective 30 Nov 2015, European Business Extra members' accounts have been migrated to the joint AA-BA-IB "On Business" programme. (Announced 24 Nov 2015)

Apparently effective ~1 Jan 2016, BPX- upgrades become more restricted. See this post. (Remains unannounced!)

24 hour ticket hold gone as of 1 April 2016

HOLD ticket WILL change 1 Apr 2016 - 24 hr hold or / & cancel

Effective April 1, you will not be able to put paid bookings on 24-hour hold if making them by telephone.

The 24-hour hold (as well as "pay for extended hold") will be available online, though 24-hour hold will only be available for an indeterminate, interim period of time.

There will be no free cancellation if travel is booked less than seven days out.

Other key changes
  • As of January 1, 2016, EXPs will earn 4 SWUs (down from 8) upon requalification with 100K EQM. Two additional SWUs will be earned at 150K EQM, and again at 200K EQM.
  • As of March 1, 2016, Gold and Platinum elite members will earn 4 "stickers" for each 12,500 EQM flown (up from 10,000 EQM) in a membership year.
  • As of March 1, 2016, the price to purchase a "sticker" (online, kiosk, agent) increases to $40 (up from $30 online/kiosk, $35 agent).
  • As of March 1, 2016, the price to purchase 8 "stickers" using miles increases to 40,000 RDM (up from 35,000 RDM).
  • Elite status earned in 2016 for 2017 will expire on January 31, 2018.
  • No announcement about the rumored revised status challenge has been made
Link to ARCHIVE: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes (formally unannounced, but reliably sourced)
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Old Nov 17, 15, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Kate2015 View Post
I must be missing something. Under the current system, I earn around 1200 miles for my commuting flights, round trip, usually in deep discount coach. Under the new system, I'd earn 8 X $350-ish miles = 2800 miles, more if I make EXP this year.

My international flights end up being 8 X $7000 (paid J) = 56,000 miles, vs around 22,000 that I earn now.

Am I miscalculating that, because my commuting flights especially are in deep discount coach, which I thought were the very fares that AA didn't want to reward. I'm surprised I'd earn more miles?
I don't think you are missing anything. $350 for a flight 300 miles each way is a fairly high price per mile compared to a lot of longer journeys
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Old Nov 17, 15, 4:47 pm
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Is the Siberian exclusion going away? It looks like all of Russia and all of Turkey are now in the Europe zone...
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Old Nov 17, 15, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by ty97 View Post
The 500 mile minimum remains for EQMs for elites.. I presume a 1.5x fare on route less than 500 miles will earn 750 EQM.

When the RDM scheme changes in the second half, there will be no 500 mile minimum for RDMs for anyone.
Doesn't seem to be what AA Twitter is saying...

"You'll earn 1.5 EQMs per mile flown." they told me.

To me, this means a 400-mile flight would earn 600 EQM, but a 240-mile flight would earn 500 EQM because 240 * 1.5 = 360, which is less than 500, so 500 min applies.

I asked for clarification. We'll see.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Kate2015 View Post
I must be missing something. Under the current system, I earn around 1200 miles for my commuting flights, round trip, usually in deep discount coach. Under the new system, I'd earn 8 X $350-ish miles = 2800 miles, more if I make EXP this year.

Am I miscalculating that, because my commuting flights especially are in deep discount coach, which I thought were the very fares that AA didn't want to reward. I'm surprised I'd earn more miles?
No - you are correct - That is the sweet spot in the revenue based programs - really short hauls that cost 300+.

Transatlantic roundtrips that cost 1200 - 1500 earn at approx the same rate, depending on the status.

Where you get totally screwed is cheap 1000+mile domestic trips and cheap transpacific trips
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Old Nov 17, 15, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by LookingAhead View Post
Platinum Example #2: Flight to Bangkok earned me 39,264 in September. Under the new program I will have earned 8,136 ($1,017 pre-tax * 8). The London trip i mentioned earlier and Bangkok trip earned just over 60,000 miles in my account. In the future I will earn about 13,600 miles on those two trips. Unbelievable.
Yep, just how I felt when UA went this way and the trip to Sao Paulo that earned me 24,000 RDMs on a previous trip suddenly dropped to 4200 RDMs this year.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 5:53 pm
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AA announced new program, what about CX PEY earnings?

Discount Y = 1 EQM
Full Y = 1.5 EQM
C = 2

What about CX PEY, just 1.5 EQM? Anyone knows?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 6:01 pm
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Are you asking about earning CX EQM on AA? If so, reference the updated CX page on AA.com:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...hayPacific.jsp
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Old Nov 17, 15, 6:04 pm
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Spoke to a supervisor at AAdvantage Customer Service.

This is what she said:
500-Mile EQM Minimum applies BEFORE the bonus for class/booking code.

FNT-ORD booked in Y (Full-Fare, 223 Miles) would earn 750 EQM (That's the 500-mile minimum plus the 50% bonus for booking in code Y). The same flight would earn 1000 RDM for a PLT (500 minimum RDM + 100% bonus) just as before. That is, until the change in the second half of next year to how RDM is calculated.

Hope that helps people who are trying to set up their spreadsheets like I am.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by josmul123 View Post
Spoke to a supervisor at AAdvantage Customer Service.

This is what she said:
500-Mile EQM Minimum applies BEFORE the bonus for class/booking code.

FNT-ORD booked in Y (Full-Fare, 223 Miles) would earn 750 EQM (That's the 500-mile minimum plus the 50% bonus for booking in code Y). The same flight would earn 1000 RDM for a PLT (500 minimum RDM + 100% bonus) just as before. That is, until the change in the second half of next year to how RDM is calculated.

Hope that helps people who are trying to set up their spreadsheets like I am.
So presumably a 400-mile flight on AS or BA in discount economy would earn 250 EQM, not even 500? That's just sad.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by SJC AA View Post
So presumably a 400-mile flight on AS or BA in discount economy would earn 250 EQM, not even 500? That's just sad.
To be honest, it's really confusing. I don't know if/how the 500-mile minimum applies on non-AA metal. Perhaps a call to AAdvantage Customer Service tomorrow would answer that.

I was just trying to get my formulas right for my 2016 spreadsheet, and I don't have any non-AA flights to add yet.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 7:00 pm
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So if you fly 100EQMs discount economy at least for 2016 you would still requalify for EXP. Other than the downgrade to 4 SWUs (and RDMs for those that highly value RDMs) for particularly EXPs its business as usual.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Cathay Boy View Post
Discount Y = 1 EQM
Full Y = 1.5 EQM
C = 2

What about CX PEY, just 1.5 EQM? Anyone knows?
I also fly CX PEY TPAC. We are safe with the 1.5EQM apparently (but again, the 2nd column that says 'Base Miles (Elite Qualifying)' notes 100%, my guess it's a typo)

Seems like RDM will be 210% for now for PLT/EXPs. Not sure about what will happen in late 2016 but my guess is most likely around 160% for PLT and 220% for EXP (eliminating 10% COS bonus, keeping 100% base miles, new tier bonuses applied)
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Old Nov 17, 15, 7:32 pm
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I am more interested in if there is still RDM bonus when you fly partner airlines like JAL.

Cause if it stays 100% bonus, then it's going to be 2.25 base.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 7:32 pm
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Question here. Alaska's EQM earning was cut in half for 2016. However, if I bought a ticket before this devaluation was announced, will AA still honor what was posted on their site at the time of ticket purchase?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
No indiction of any change there thus far.
Thank you kind sir.
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