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JUST THE FACTS: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes Announced 17 Nov 2015

JUST THE FACTS: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes Announced 17 Nov 2015

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AAdvantage Program Changes for 2016 - Just the Facts
as announced 17 Nov 2015 in FAQ on aa.com

PLEASE READ BEFORE ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS: we are seeing the same questions come up time and again, and those are often addressed here. NOTE: this thread is being closely monitored and moderated as needed to ensure it stays within the narrow remit of its topic.


Please see and post to AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - Discussion and Reaction all reactions, speculation about next steps, opinions, discussion, praise, complaints etc.

Link to AAdvantage program updates and FAQ links (17 Nov 2015)

New related threads:

FAQ: Award changes after 22 March 2016 - which incur redeposit, which not (Award changes 22 March 2016 or after may incur award miles redeposit (fees) and significant increases of miles required to issue new ones - but some changes may be made without doing so.)

See Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partners 2016 for more about earning EQM.

See Earning AA Award / Redeemable Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016 for more regarding AAdvantage Award ("Redeemable") Miles.
Link to Gary Leff's article with charts, etc.

Also: brp has revised his spreadsheet for 2016 conditions - now named Miles Tracker v. 8.0. It can be downloaded from Gargoyle's page linked to in the OP, or here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Tracker-v8.xls (NOTE: due to technical problems, the proper spreadsheet was not uploaded.)

AA reducing some checked baggage allowance tickets pchs on / after 29 Mar 2016

Elite Qualification and Earning Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) - Change 1 Jan 2016
In 2016, there will be two methods to qualify for elite status:
  • Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) or Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS)

  • Elite Qualifying Points (EQP) no longer exist (EQM replaced them).

  • Thresholds for elite status qualification remain the same as 2015.
EQM will continue to be calculated based on distance flown (base miles). All EQM on AA marketed flights ("AA codeshares" / "AA coded flights") will earn at least 1 EQM per mile flown, with bonus multipliers for higher fares (regardless of operating carrier, AA itself or another carrier):


AA Marketed Flights Link
  • 3 EQMs/mile – Full-fare First or Business / F, J
  • 2 EQMs/mile - Discount First or Business / A, P, D, R, I
  • 1.5 EQMs/mile – Full-fare Main Cabin / Y, B and W when AA marketed on airline partners
  • 1 EQM/mile - Discount Main Cabin / all other Main Cabin fares
  • This applies to all AA marketed flight numbers, regardless of operating carrier.
  • Elites continue to earn 500 EQM minimum per segment

    Originally Posted by brp View Post
    Further confirmation of above from inside AA. He (JonNYC) got a message from AAdvantage

    Originally Posted by JonNYC Vie
    That's what I'm told as well-- fix on the way, system not operating as intended at present.
    Further confirmation of above from inside AA. He got a message from AAdvantage
    Originally Posted by AAdvantage
    Thanks for your questions on EQM earning. There is a glitch in how the minimum mileage guarantee for EQMs is being calculated. The calculation should credit the 500 mile minimum before applying the EQM multiplier. Beginning in the next few weeks, we will be running a retroactive process to “true up” any accounts where the member did not earn the proper number of EQMs. This process will continue to run until the calculation can be reprogrammed in the AAdvantage system.
    So, they will do an adjustment for those that were shorted so far and the system will soon be fixed for real.
    Cheers.

    So, they will do an adjustment for those that were shorted so far and the system will soon be fixed for real.

    Cheers.
AA Elite-Qualifying Partner Airlines
  • 1.5 EQMs/mile - First, Business, and Premium Economy
  • 1.0 EQMs/mile - Full-fare economy (typically Y and B, but varies by partner)
  • 0.5 EQMs/mile - All other mileage-earning economy fares
  • This applies to partner-marketed flights which are eligible to earn AAdvantage miles (typically meaning operated by oneworld carriers and affiliates, though this varies by partner), even if operated by AA.
Link to aa.com Partner Airline Miles Earning Charts as of 1 Jan 2016.

The is no minimum dollar spending requirement to obtain status.

AAdvantage Miles Award Charts - Change 22 Mar 2016
Link to American Airlines Award Charts as of 22 Mar 2016 (Note: some region descriptions were updated ~10 Feb 2016.)

See this post by Smiley90 for a compilation of new mileage redemption charts and changes.

Link to oneworld and other airline Award Charts as of 22 Mar 2016

Link to tool for old and new award chart comparison by bgriz18.

The number of miles required for many awards changed effective March 22, 2016. Award flights ticketed on or after March 22, 2016 will be subject to the new award charts.

In addition, off-peak (OP) periods have been sharply reduced. For example, Europe OP has changed from Oct. 15-May 15 to Nov. 1-Dec. 14 & Jan. 10-Mar. 14.
NOTE: Region changes

  • Bolivia and Manaus, Brasil: changing from South America 2 to South America 1
  • Venezuela: changing from South America 1 to South America 2
  • Guam: changing from Asia 2 to South Pacific
  • Sri Lanka: changing from Asia 2 to Indian Subcontinent/Middle East
  • Kiribati, Palau, Solomon Islands and Tuvalu: added to South Pacific region
Earning Redeemable Miles (RDMs) / Award Miles - Change second half of 2016 (EST. ~1 OCT 2016)
For the first part of 2016, RDMs will continue to be earned as they are today. Sometime (most likely later) in "the second half of 2016" RDMs will switch to spend-based model, akin to Delta and United.

RDMs earned will be the base fare plus carrier-imposed fees (excluding any government-imposed taxes and fees) times the following multiplier based on status level:
  • 5 miles/U.S. dollar – non-status AAdvantage member
  • 7 miles/U.S. dollar – Gold Member
  • 8 miles/U.S. dollar – Platinum Member
  • 11 miles/U.S. dollar – Executive Platinum Member
It appears from the FAQ NO 500 mile minimum for elites - further information will be forthcoming from AA as these changes roll out.
In the example below, in Costa Rican Colones so used only for illustrative purposes, the airport and countered fees and taxes would be excluded from RDM calculations:

As it states in the thread specific to this issue, it appears ~01 October is the likely start date for revenue-based Award Miles earning - and they'll announce one month in advance.

Earning AA Award / "Redeemable" Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016

Originally Posted by Fernando_BR View Post
(2 May 2016)

Hi everyone,

This is what I´ve read on a Brazilian blog.

The blogger met Suzane Rubin on the T-Mobile Arena, and posted that she told him that they would not change before September, and probably only in October, with a 1-month notice.

I have a booked roundtrip Sao Paulo to Dallas in August, so I hope he is right and this information helps !

I don´t know him, but I follow his blog. You can check it (in Portuguese):
http://www.mestredasmilhas.com/2016/...ards-2016.html

(Reformatted for wiki use.)

"Agora vamos às novidades. Tive o privilégio de conversar particularmente com a Suzane Rubin, e a equipe do AAdvantage, e já posso adiantar algumas informações aqui. Eles me confirmaram que a mudança para revenue não irá ocorrer antes de setembro, mas com data provável em Outubro deste ano, e com pelo menos 1 mês de aviso prévio. Também o crédito de pontos será na data do voo, ou seja, se você compra uma passagem agora, e voa somente em dezembro, provavelmente irá receber pontos, e não milhas pela distância voada."

Translated:

Now for the news. I had the privilege to talk particularly with Suzanne Rubin and the AAdvantage team, and I can share some advance information here. It was confirmed to me that the change to revenue (based earning) will not occur before September, but with a probable date in October this year, and with at least one month's notice. Also the credit points will be for the date of the flight, or if you buy a ticket now, and fly only in December, will probably get points, but not (Award / Redeemable) miles by distance flown.

Business Extra changes

Effective 30 Nov 2015, European Business Extra members' accounts have been migrated to the joint AA-BA-IB "On Business" programme. (Announced 24 Nov 2015)

Apparently effective ~1 Jan 2016, BPX- upgrades become more restricted. See this post. (Remains unannounced!)

24 hour ticket hold gone as of 1 April 2016

HOLD ticket WILL change 1 Apr 2016 - 24 hr hold or / & cancel

Effective April 1, you will not be able to put paid bookings on 24-hour hold if making them by telephone.

The 24-hour hold (as well as "pay for extended hold") will be available online, though 24-hour hold will only be available for an indeterminate, interim period of time.

There will be no free cancellation if travel is booked less than seven days out.

Other key changes
  • As of January 1, 2016, EXPs will earn 4 SWUs (down from 8) upon requalification with 100K EQM. Two additional SWUs will be earned at 150K EQM, and again at 200K EQM.
  • As of March 1, 2016, Gold and Platinum elite members will earn 4 "stickers" for each 12,500 EQM flown (up from 10,000 EQM) in a membership year.
  • As of March 1, 2016, the price to purchase a "sticker" (online, kiosk, agent) increases to $40 (up from $30 online/kiosk, $35 agent).
  • As of March 1, 2016, the price to purchase 8 "stickers" using miles increases to 40,000 RDM (up from 35,000 RDM).
  • Elite status earned in 2016 for 2017 will expire on January 31, 2018.
  • No announcement about the rumored revised status challenge has been made
Link to ARCHIVE: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes (formally unannounced, but reliably sourced)
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Old Nov 17, 15, 1:40 pm
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Something that still seems really vague is how the 500-mile minimum will apply to EQMs. Is it based on the distance before the EQM multiplier is applied, or is it the minimum number of actual EQMs?

For example, does a 300-mile flight on AA in P earn 600 or 1000 EQM?

Does a 750-mile flight on AS in coach earn 500 or 250 EQM?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 1:40 pm
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What's the best option for redeeming CX F US-HKG now?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto View Post
I already have a lot of premium cabin travel booked for the second half of 2016 already, if it was booked prior to the revenue system even being announced will it earn based on dollars spent or miles flown?
I would believe it will earn on dollars spent, depending on the exact date the revenue system is instituted.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 1:47 pm
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It also seems the 500 mile minimum for elite's is being abolished in second half of 2016. That really sucks.

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Will the 500-mile minimum for elite members on all flights and for non-elite status members on shuttle flights for award miles continue to apply under this new methodology?

No, the 500-mile minimum for elite members on all eligible flights and for non-elite members on shuttle flights will be removed when the changes to award miles are implemented in second half of 2016.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 1:56 pm
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Under the new chart, Hawaii - South Pacific is 90K in F one-way.

I wonder what D- analyst came up with this since there is no way to get F unless you fly through LAX, which would require 110K.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by jlb3 View Post
It also seems the 500 mile minimum for elite's is being abolished in second half of 2016. That really sucks.

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Will the 500-mile minimum for elite members on all flights and for non-elite status members on shuttle flights for award miles continue to apply under this new methodology?

No, the 500-mile minimum for elite members on all eligible flights and for non-elite members on shuttle flights will be removed when the changes to award miles are implemented in second half of 2016.
That's not how I read it. Here's the full q&a:
Will the 500-mile minimum for elite members on all flights and for non elite members on shuttle flights for EQMs continue to apply under this new methodology?

Yes, the 500-mile minimum for elite members for EQMs will continue to apply. The 500-mile minimum for non-elite members on shuttle flights will, however, be removed when the changes to award miles are implemented in the second half of 2016.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
Which region is it in in current chart ? just assume it hasn't moved for now - if AA was to put SJU as a place explicitly with no awards, I suspect it would mention it ( c.f. Cuba )

The Puerto Rican sky is unlikely to be falling
Currently, in the pre-devaluation award chart, Puerto Rico belongs to Carribean. In the post-devaluation award chart (in the region definitions link), Puerto Rico is not there.
Lets crossfinger that this is a clerk typo or error. If it is intentionally made, I'll have ZERO incentives to flight with AA.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:05 pm
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A great deal for ex-plats

Once you read the entire program, this is actually great for ExPlats and anyone else who is willing to pay for a ticket in the cabin that they want to fly in.

By replacing EQP with EQM you can get to EXP with 50K paid miles instead of appx $66.5 and it will offset the drop in SWU's from 8 to 4.

Now, once the $ based mileage earning scheme goes into effect and you combine it with this year's bonus program for paying for business or first (that has been extended through 2016), the benefits are HUGE - they far, far outweigh any added miles for some routes.

Not bad- now let them work on their customer service issues and they may have a very competitive airline.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by wdchuck1 View Post
Once you read the entire program, this is actually great for ExPlats and anyone else who is willing to pay for a ticket in the cabin that they want to fly in.

By replacing EQP with EQM you can get to EXP with 50K paid miles instead of appx $66.5 and it will offset the drop in SWU's from 8 to 4.

Now, once the $ based mileage earning scheme goes into effect and you combine it with this year's bonus program for paying for business or first (that has been extended through 2016), the benefits are HUGE - they far, far outweigh any added miles for some routes.

Not bad- now let them work on their customer service issues and they may have a very competitive airline.
Agree completely. For US-based flyers the award charts remain more or less unchanged. But now, after two paid business class trips on AA to Europe, plus 10,000 EQM Exec card bonus, one is essentially at Plat. RDMs for Plat will be at 8/dollar spent, which seems reasonable. I was going to ditch AA because of difficulty reaching Plat based on my spend pattern, but will now reconsider.

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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by fly747first View Post
Under the new chart, Hawaii - South Pacific is 90K in F one-way.

I wonder what D- analyst came up with this since there is no way to get F unless you fly through LAX, which would require 110K.
That there is currently no 1st class option, does not mean that there never can be. Seems more sensible to have a price defined rather than not have any option to redeem should it become available
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:20 pm
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Can someone answer if EXP will still get 100% bonus RDM from 1 Jan 2016 until mid/late 2016 when the new RDM system kicks in? So will cheapest AA-coded flights still give 200% as they do now?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by economyplusfan View Post
RDMs for Plat will be at $8/dollar spent, which seems reasonable.
RDMs for GLD are $7/dollar. We used to get 75% more miles than Gold. Now we get 12%. How is that not a massive gutting of PLT?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:20 pm
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You are correct, I am wrong. But you can see how I was confused in all the emotion. My apologies, and thank you for correcting me.

Originally Posted by Juanefny View Post
That's not how I read it. Here's the full q&a:
Will the 500-mile minimum for elite members on all flights and for non elite members on shuttle flights for EQMs continue to apply under this new methodology?

Yes, the 500-mile minimum for elite members for EQMs will continue to apply. The 500-mile minimum for non-elite members on shuttle flights will, however, be removed when the changes to award miles are implemented in the second half of 2016.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by TokinaMaso View Post
Can someone answer if EXP will still get 100% bonus RDM from 1 Jan 2016 until mid/late 2016 when the new RDM system kicks in? So will cheapest AA-coded flights still give 200% as they do now?
Yes.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 2:23 pm
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So the way I read this, as a current Gold member, I will have to spend a minimum of $3571.42, not including tax, to maintain Gold down the road. I've been able to do this pretty easily for 2500-3000 in the past.

I agree that the earnings on BA are horrible - since I go to DUB at least once a year I usually end up on BA from LHR to DUB. For now, I'll assume the AA flight numbers operated by BA are safe, but it could make me reconsider and fly direct out of PHL or ORD in the future, not to mention direct to DUB is easier without LHR in the mix.

However, for my current trip, which is giving me ~13k EQM for $1200 all in, would now give me 8400 EQM, and that's not including the probably ~200 of tax/fees, which would make it somewhere around 7000 EQM. This alone will make me seriously reconsider my strategy for next year, either looking elsewhere, or just taking 1 big trip in J each year instead of many smaller trips like I have been doing.
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