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JUST THE FACTS: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes Announced 17 Nov 2015

JUST THE FACTS: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes Announced 17 Nov 2015

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AAdvantage Program Changes for 2016 - Just the Facts
as announced 17 Nov 2015 in FAQ on aa.com

PLEASE READ BEFORE ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS: we are seeing the same questions come up time and again, and those are often addressed here. NOTE: this thread is being closely monitored and moderated as needed to ensure it stays within the narrow remit of its topic.


Please see and post to AAdvantage Changes for 2016 - Discussion and Reaction all reactions, speculation about next steps, opinions, discussion, praise, complaints etc.

Link to AAdvantage program updates and FAQ links (17 Nov 2015)

New related threads:

FAQ: Award changes after 22 March 2016 - which incur redeposit, which not (Award changes 22 March 2016 or after may incur award miles redeposit (fees) and significant increases of miles required to issue new ones - but some changes may be made without doing so.)

See Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partners 2016 for more about earning EQM.

See Earning AA Award / Redeemable Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016 for more regarding AAdvantage Award ("Redeemable") Miles.
Link to Gary Leff's article with charts, etc.

Also: brp has revised his spreadsheet for 2016 conditions - now named Miles Tracker v. 8.0. It can be downloaded from Gargoyle's page linked to in the OP, or here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Tracker-v8.xls (NOTE: due to technical problems, the proper spreadsheet was not uploaded.)

AA reducing some checked baggage allowance tickets pchs on / after 29 Mar 2016

Elite Qualification and Earning Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) - Change 1 Jan 2016
In 2016, there will be two methods to qualify for elite status:
  • Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) or Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS)

  • Elite Qualifying Points (EQP) no longer exist (EQM replaced them).

  • Thresholds for elite status qualification remain the same as 2015.
EQM will continue to be calculated based on distance flown (base miles). All EQM on AA marketed flights ("AA codeshares" / "AA coded flights") will earn at least 1 EQM per mile flown, with bonus multipliers for higher fares (regardless of operating carrier, AA itself or another carrier):


AA Marketed Flights Link
  • 3 EQMs/mile – Full-fare First or Business / F, J
  • 2 EQMs/mile - Discount First or Business / A, P, D, R, I
  • 1.5 EQMs/mile – Full-fare Main Cabin / Y, B and W when AA marketed on airline partners
  • 1 EQM/mile - Discount Main Cabin / all other Main Cabin fares
  • This applies to all AA marketed flight numbers, regardless of operating carrier.
  • Elites continue to earn 500 EQM minimum per segment

    Originally Posted by brp View Post
    Further confirmation of above from inside AA. He (JonNYC) got a message from AAdvantage

    Originally Posted by JonNYC Vie
    That's what I'm told as well-- fix on the way, system not operating as intended at present.
    Further confirmation of above from inside AA. He got a message from AAdvantage
    Originally Posted by AAdvantage
    Thanks for your questions on EQM earning. There is a glitch in how the minimum mileage guarantee for EQMs is being calculated. The calculation should credit the 500 mile minimum before applying the EQM multiplier. Beginning in the next few weeks, we will be running a retroactive process to “true up” any accounts where the member did not earn the proper number of EQMs. This process will continue to run until the calculation can be reprogrammed in the AAdvantage system.
    So, they will do an adjustment for those that were shorted so far and the system will soon be fixed for real.
    Cheers.

    So, they will do an adjustment for those that were shorted so far and the system will soon be fixed for real.

    Cheers.
AA Elite-Qualifying Partner Airlines
  • 1.5 EQMs/mile - First, Business, and Premium Economy
  • 1.0 EQMs/mile - Full-fare economy (typically Y and B, but varies by partner)
  • 0.5 EQMs/mile - All other mileage-earning economy fares
  • This applies to partner-marketed flights which are eligible to earn AAdvantage miles (typically meaning operated by oneworld carriers and affiliates, though this varies by partner), even if operated by AA.
Link to aa.com Partner Airline Miles Earning Charts as of 1 Jan 2016.

The is no minimum dollar spending requirement to obtain status.

AAdvantage Miles Award Charts - Change 22 Mar 2016
Link to American Airlines Award Charts as of 22 Mar 2016 (Note: some region descriptions were updated ~10 Feb 2016.)

See this post by Smiley90 for a compilation of new mileage redemption charts and changes.

Link to oneworld and other airline Award Charts as of 22 Mar 2016

Link to tool for old and new award chart comparison by bgriz18.

The number of miles required for many awards changed effective March 22, 2016. Award flights ticketed on or after March 22, 2016 will be subject to the new award charts.

In addition, off-peak (OP) periods have been sharply reduced. For example, Europe OP has changed from Oct. 15-May 15 to Nov. 1-Dec. 14 & Jan. 10-Mar. 14.
NOTE: Region changes

  • Bolivia and Manaus, Brasil: changing from South America 2 to South America 1
  • Venezuela: changing from South America 1 to South America 2
  • Guam: changing from Asia 2 to South Pacific
  • Sri Lanka: changing from Asia 2 to Indian Subcontinent/Middle East
  • Kiribati, Palau, Solomon Islands and Tuvalu: added to South Pacific region
Earning Redeemable Miles (RDMs) / Award Miles - Change second half of 2016 (EST. ~1 OCT 2016)
For the first part of 2016, RDMs will continue to be earned as they are today. Sometime (most likely later) in "the second half of 2016" RDMs will switch to spend-based model, akin to Delta and United.

RDMs earned will be the base fare plus carrier-imposed fees (excluding any government-imposed taxes and fees) times the following multiplier based on status level:
  • 5 miles/U.S. dollar – non-status AAdvantage member
  • 7 miles/U.S. dollar – Gold Member
  • 8 miles/U.S. dollar – Platinum Member
  • 11 miles/U.S. dollar – Executive Platinum Member
It appears from the FAQ NO 500 mile minimum for elites - further information will be forthcoming from AA as these changes roll out.
In the example below, in Costa Rican Colones so used only for illustrative purposes, the airport and countered fees and taxes would be excluded from RDM calculations:

As it states in the thread specific to this issue, it appears ~01 October is the likely start date for revenue-based Award Miles earning - and they'll announce one month in advance.

Earning AA Award / "Redeemable" Miles / RDM on AA, partners later 2016

Originally Posted by Fernando_BR View Post
(2 May 2016)

Hi everyone,

This is what I´ve read on a Brazilian blog.

The blogger met Suzane Rubin on the T-Mobile Arena, and posted that she told him that they would not change before September, and probably only in October, with a 1-month notice.

I have a booked roundtrip Sao Paulo to Dallas in August, so I hope he is right and this information helps !

I don´t know him, but I follow his blog. You can check it (in Portuguese):
http://www.mestredasmilhas.com/2016/...ards-2016.html

(Reformatted for wiki use.)

"Agora vamos às novidades. Tive o privilégio de conversar particularmente com a Suzane Rubin, e a equipe do AAdvantage, e já posso adiantar algumas informações aqui. Eles me confirmaram que a mudança para revenue não irá ocorrer antes de setembro, mas com data provável em Outubro deste ano, e com pelo menos 1 mês de aviso prévio. Também o crédito de pontos será na data do voo, ou seja, se você compra uma passagem agora, e voa somente em dezembro, provavelmente irá receber pontos, e não milhas pela distância voada."

Translated:

Now for the news. I had the privilege to talk particularly with Suzanne Rubin and the AAdvantage team, and I can share some advance information here. It was confirmed to me that the change to revenue (based earning) will not occur before September, but with a probable date in October this year, and with at least one month's notice. Also the credit points will be for the date of the flight, or if you buy a ticket now, and fly only in December, will probably get points, but not (Award / Redeemable) miles by distance flown.

Business Extra changes

Effective 30 Nov 2015, European Business Extra members' accounts have been migrated to the joint AA-BA-IB "On Business" programme. (Announced 24 Nov 2015)

Apparently effective ~1 Jan 2016, BPX- upgrades become more restricted. See this post. (Remains unannounced!)

24 hour ticket hold gone as of 1 April 2016

HOLD ticket WILL change 1 Apr 2016 - 24 hr hold or / & cancel

Effective April 1, you will not be able to put paid bookings on 24-hour hold if making them by telephone.

The 24-hour hold (as well as "pay for extended hold") will be available online, though 24-hour hold will only be available for an indeterminate, interim period of time.

There will be no free cancellation if travel is booked less than seven days out.

Other key changes
  • As of January 1, 2016, EXPs will earn 4 SWUs (down from 8) upon requalification with 100K EQM. Two additional SWUs will be earned at 150K EQM, and again at 200K EQM.
  • As of March 1, 2016, Gold and Platinum elite members will earn 4 "stickers" for each 12,500 EQM flown (up from 10,000 EQM) in a membership year.
  • As of March 1, 2016, the price to purchase a "sticker" (online, kiosk, agent) increases to $40 (up from $30 online/kiosk, $35 agent).
  • As of March 1, 2016, the price to purchase 8 "stickers" using miles increases to 40,000 RDM (up from 35,000 RDM).
  • Elite status earned in 2016 for 2017 will expire on January 31, 2018.
  • No announcement about the rumored revised status challenge has been made
Link to ARCHIVE: 2016 AAdvantage Program Changes (formally unannounced, but reliably sourced)
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by chrisremo View Post
With the award chart changes upcoming, is it safe to speculatively book award travel before March, then change dates as needed, given AA's policy of not charging for award changes when origin and destination remain the same?
I cannot see that it would be a problem - changing dates/times will not require a new award to be issued

Only if there was a change requiring a new award , would I expect an issue ( e.g. upgrading award to a higher cabin )
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by ashill View Post
No, the chart now lists EQMs per mile flown, NOT EQMs per base mile. So JL bottoms out at 0.5 EQM/mile flown, which is an increase on the cheapest fares.

In fact, every partner I've looked at bottoms out at 0.5 EQMs on all non-zero-earning fares, so that's an improvement on EQMs cheap fares on JL, QF, what was previously announced for BA, and a substantial improvement over the EQPs (which were as low as 0.5*0.25 = 0.125 for QF, for example).
That's marginally better, but it's still crappy.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:34 pm
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Puerto Rico is out of the new Award Chart. Someone confirm it, please. Or it could be a huge glitch.
When you go to the "View region definitions", Puerto Rico does NOT appear in the Caribbean, nor in Central American nor Contiguous 48 US States.

Where is Puerto Rico????????????????????????????????????????????
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:42 pm
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So when they new earnings take effect these will be for AA marketed flights so then there wont be any bonus at all on partner flights anymore? Is that correct?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:43 pm
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Official 2016 AAdvantage program changes formally announced

AA has put up the details of the new program for 2016 online at aa.com

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...antage2016.jsp
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:49 pm
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The award chart devaluation is a bit of a blower. It's not major to Europe which is where I burn most of my miles. 40k RT becomes 45k, but there's still the problem of BA YQ. And the definition of Off-Peak changed.

Europe: January 10 - March 14, November 1 - December 14
Overall, I don't really see any positive changes in the announcement other than EQP going away in favor of EQM bonuses. The 7.5k award level could be marketed as an improvement, but that ignores the BA 4.5k award going away - it's a different program, but no doubt BA and AA aligned on that 7.5k short haul award price.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:54 pm
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210k AAnytime to Australia one-way on AA metal? Wild.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by kauppias View Post
The Finnair 50% eqm is bad though nearly all AY economy fares earn 50% eqm 👎 So 100% rdm wont mean much if theres no bonus rdm anymore after the new changes...
Damn. I missed that part

Still better than BA, but 2016 may be my last year with OW.
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by pinksalsa View Post
Puerto Rico is out of the new Award Chart. Someone confirm it, please. Or it could be a huge glitch.
When you go to the "View region definitions", Puerto Rico does NOT appear in the Caribbean, nor in Central American nor Contiguous 48 US States.

Where is Puerto Rico????????????????????????????????????????????
I need help in here, PLEASE.

Based on aa.com regarding the official changes, Puerto Rico is out of the Award Chart. So, travel from/to Puerto Rico is out of the award game. Someone confirm me, please.

Puerto Rico is not shown in the Caribbean, South America, Central America, 48 48 US states...in no place whatsoever.
My guess is that its a glitch, but a glitch that avoid redeeming flights to SJU. CORRECT IT ASAP!!!!
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Old Nov 17, 15, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by kauppias View Post
The Finnair 50% eqm is bad though nearly all AY economy fares earn 50% eqm �� So 100% rdm wont mean much if theres no bonus rdm anymore after the new changes...
It appears that all discount economy fares on non-AA partners earn 50% EQM.

Frankly, before JonNYC posted the news, I expected this to be the case for all partners including AA; I expected them to essentially eliminate the old EQMs in favor of the old EQPs (perhaps renaming them EQMs). On partners, that's essentially what happened (except that 1.0 EQP on discount, as opposed to discount, fares is gone), so relative to my expectations before JonNYC's scoop, it's not so bad. But it is still a change that may well lead to a revaluation of my flying in 2017 (to the extent I have any idea what my life -- let alone my frequent flyer programs -- will be like in 2017!).
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Good evening,

Little question from someone who is farm from being a FF and has no status (joys of being a college student ). Does the changes mean that if I fly some cheap return ticket for example AMS/LAX for $700, instead of receiving now something along the lines of 12k miles, it'd get down to 3500 ?
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So will my AY flights operated by BA (YYZ-LHR) not earn miles?!
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Originally Posted by pinksalsa View Post
I need help in here, PLEASE.

Based on aa.com regarding the official changes, Puerto Rico is out of the Award Chart. So, travel from/to Puerto Rico is out of the award game. Someone confirm me, please.

Puerto Rico is not shown in the Caribbean, South America, Central America, 48 48 US states...in no place whatsoever.
My guess is that its a glitch, but a glitch that avoid redeeming flights to SJU. CORRECT IT ASAP!!!!
Searching for redemptions between MIA and SJU for October, it's 30k each way in MileageSaver First and 12.5 in MileageSaver Economy. So Caribbean, I guess.
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This may be a bit premature, but do we have any insight on if we can CHANGE bookings after they've been made (post-3/22) at the original rate. For example, if I have a booked a trip in July 2016:

1.In CX J, can I upgrade to CX F at the old rate, once seats open up T-14 (at 67.5K), or will I have to go from 55K to 110K?

2. Change flight dates in the same cabin. For example, change my July 2016 flight in CX F to August 2016 in CX F.

I believe United allowed changes similar to #2 (not sure about #1), but has anyone heard about AA?
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Old Nov 17, 15, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by simon1606 View Post
Good evening,

Little question from someone who is farm from being a FF and has no status (joys of being a college student ). Does the changes mean that if I fly some cheap return ticket for example AMS/LAX for $700, instead of receiving now something along the lines of 12k miles, it'd get down to 3500 ?
Even less, youd have to subtract taxes. So more like 650*5.
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