Aug 17, 2015, 9:59 am
Last edit by: WindowSeatFlyer
NOTE: Discussion here is for the Boeing 777-200ERs refitted with the Zodiac "Concept D" Business Suite (forward and aft facing seats) only.
See the (unofficial) American Fleet Site list for configuration by registration numbers here.
Forward facing seats are overlooked by rear facing occupants across the aisle
Forward facing seats have one armrest (aisle side of seat)
Rear facing seats do not have armrests leading to a "bathtub" effect
Rear facing seats are preferred by many fliers for greater shoulder space
Forward facing seats require use of a shoulder strap in addition to the seat lap belt during takeoff and landing operations
Seat 1A is blocked for pilot rest on flights > 8 hours.
Seats 7A and 7L have restricted views (window blank)
Seats 1A, 1D, 1H, 7A, 7L, 10A, and 10L are not coupled to neighbouring seats and are reported to be less susceptible to "rocking" and "knocking"
Seats 10D and 10H are overlooked by occupants in 13B and 13J respectively.
Seats 5A and 6L are overlooked by galley occupants
Seats 10A and 10L are close to Premium Economy bassinets
Cabin overhead storage bins are capacious and when closed give the aircraft a more open, spacious feel.
In-suite storage is minimal, consisting of a niche with "fence" capable of holding a mobile phone connected to one of the two USB ports and a small area below seat level capable of holding a water bottle and small item. (two 110V AC with a "universal" plug socket is also provided.)
The area under the footrest (too small to be called an ottoman) might be able to store a purse or small item.
General fit and finish has been described as fair at best, with some gaps, misfits, etc.
IFE is AVOD and operates from a hand control. The spacious screen is hinged and can not be tilted vertically.
WiFi is Panasonic satellite international WiFi
Bang & Olufsen noise reducing headsets are provided in Business Class; these are retrieved by crew about an hour prior to landing.
A self-service snack bar is set up in the galley for Business class.
Lavatories seem more open and spacious, and offer higher volume sink basins.
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See the (unofficial) American Fleet Site list for configuration by registration numbers here.
Forward facing seats are overlooked by rear facing occupants across the aisle
Forward facing seats have one armrest (aisle side of seat)
Rear facing seats do not have armrests leading to a "bathtub" effect
Rear facing seats are preferred by many fliers for greater shoulder space
Forward facing seats require use of a shoulder strap in addition to the seat lap belt during takeoff and landing operations
Seat 1A is blocked for pilot rest on flights > 8 hours.
Seats 7A and 7L have restricted views (window blank)
Seats 1A, 1D, 1H, 7A, 7L, 10A, and 10L are not coupled to neighbouring seats and are reported to be less susceptible to "rocking" and "knocking"
Seats 10D and 10H are overlooked by occupants in 13B and 13J respectively.
Seats 5A and 6L are overlooked by galley occupants
Seats 10A and 10L are close to Premium Economy bassinets
Cabin overhead storage bins are capacious and when closed give the aircraft a more open, spacious feel.
In-suite storage is minimal, consisting of a niche with "fence" capable of holding a mobile phone connected to one of the two USB ports and a small area below seat level capable of holding a water bottle and small item. (two 110V AC with a "universal" plug socket is also provided.)
The area under the footrest (too small to be called an ottoman) might be able to store a purse or small item.
General fit and finish has been described as fair at best, with some gaps, misfits, etc.
IFE is AVOD and operates from a hand control. The spacious screen is hinged and can not be tilted vertically.
WiFi is Panasonic satellite international WiFi
Bang & Olufsen noise reducing headsets are provided in Business Class; these are retrieved by crew about an hour prior to landing.
A self-service snack bar is set up in the galley for Business class.
Lavatories seem more open and spacious, and offer higher volume sink basins.
Related threads
Aircraft guide: Which 777-200ER / 772 / 777? (As of 11 Dec 2018)
772 Refitted 777-200ER B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Business Seat / Seats
Best 772 Zodiac J Refitted 777-200ER MCE and Economy / Coach Seat / Seats
Best 772 B/E Aerospace J Refitted 777-200ER MCE & Economy / Coach Seat / Seats
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Aug 19, 2018, 1:42 pm
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Aug 19, 2018, 3:50 pm
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There were six 37J 772s that had the Zodiac seats (out of 34 37J 772s)--these are the airplanes that have been retrofitted with PE/W and that AA rosters on DFW-Hawaii. According to the AA Fleet Site, it now appears that one originally 45J 772 with Zodiac seats has been retrofitted to the 37J + 24W configuration, which means that you have a 7/35 or 20% chance of getting Zodiac seats when flying to Hawaii.
Aug 19, 2018, 8:35 pm
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There were six 37J 772s that had the Zodiac seats (out of 34 37J 772s)--these are the airplanes that have been retrofitted with PE/W and that AA rosters on DFW-Hawaii. According to the AA Fleet Site, it now appears that one originally 45J 772 with Zodiac seats has been retrofitted to the 37J + 24W configuration, which means that you have a 7/35 or 20% chance of getting Zodiac seats when flying to Hawaii.
Aug 20, 2018, 8:56 am
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Aug 20, 2018, 9:04 am
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There are some recent reports with pictures of DFW to Hawaii (HNL, OGG) non stop 772 service in the Domestic Meals Forum. We have made 3 RT DFW to HNL and OGG since they scheduled the 772 on this route last summer. We have had the BE Super Diamond all forward facing seats on all legs.
Aug 20, 2018, 11:41 am
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Just checked in for Flight 123 for tomorrow...Seat Map changed to show notches on some seats. I assume this plane now has the Zodiac seat. I had been seated in 3A which I assume in rear-facing. 1 L was available so I switched my seat assuming it will be forward facing....what I don’t know is ....will it have a window... I’ve looked at many threads and reviews but can’t seem to find information.
I know this is a small concern but I’d like to know if there is a window.
Thank you in advance
I know this is a small concern but I’d like to know if there is a window.
Thank you in advance
Aug 21, 2018, 9:04 pm
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Op I’m on the returning flight AA8 8/21. My seatmap looks like the forward facing until last minute. I didn’t see any seats with notches during OLCI. I shall see how the rocking chairs goes 
Aug 24, 2018, 8:46 am
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I am just wondering how you and teemuflyer are doing with the hurricane? Hope you're safe and dry.
Also wondering if AANYC1981 was still planning on going? Mine is a 6-hour layover I might still go, not too sure.
Sep 8, 2018, 10:06 am
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Family of 4 to Hawaii: where to sit
We're flying DFW-HNL;OGG-DFW next summer. I know we have no way of knowing which configuration will be on the route, but given that am looking for some advice on the best arrangement of seats to pick, that would be good in any configuration. We've initially gone for all four seats in row 7, as it is the bulkhead of the second J cabin. Don't care about rear facing (actually rather like it, based on BA experience) but having at least two of us with unblocked windows is a definite preference. Kids are 14 and 10.
Sep 8, 2018, 11:41 am
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We're flying DFW-HNL;OGG-DFW next summer. I know we have no way of knowing which configuration will be on the route, but given that am looking for some advice on the best arrangement of seats to pick, that would be good in any configuration. We've initially gone for all four seats in row 7, as it is the bulkhead of the second J cabin. Don't care about rear facing (actually rather like it, based on BA experience) but having at least two of us with unblocked windows is a definite preference. Kids are 14 and 10.
Sep 21, 2018, 4:46 am
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Just had a pleasant surprise. Looks like AA 101 LHR-JFK on 9-22 just went from no PE to a PE plane. I am in 15C on old and new config. The sting of SWU probably not clearing is lessened a lot by getting a PE seat. I haven't flown on this cause the 2 times before that I booked it my SWU cleared. Not dreading it near as much now.
Sep 27, 2018, 4:01 pm
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Never mind, my bad. 7L doesn't have a window. So no go for that seat. Sorry, please resume your discussion.
Last edited by Cloudship; Sep 27, 2018 at 4:03 pm Reason: Because I type before I think.