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ARCHIVE: AA announces LAX-SYD-LAX 77W AA73 / AA72 (as of 17 December 2015)

ARCHIVE: AA announces LAX-SYD-LAX 77W AA73 / AA72 (as of 17 December 2015)

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AA to Fly LAX / Los Angeles <--> SYD / Sydney as of 17 December 2015
AA0073 and AA0072 are operated with Boeing 77W / 777-323ER

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Inaugural flights:

LAX-SYD: 17 Dec 2015 AA 73 Flight duration 15:05
Lv LAX 21:50 Dec 17 PST / 05:50 18 Dec GMT
Ar SYD 07:55 Dec 19 AEDT / 20:55 18 Dec GMT (same day)
SYD-LAX: 19 Dec 2015 AA 72 Flight duration 13:50
Lv SYD 12:00 Dec 19 AEDT / 01:00 19 Dec GMT
Ar LAX 06:50 Dec 19 PST / 14:50 19 Dec GMT
Inaugural flight AA73, operated by Boeing 777-323ER ("77W") N720AN:

2015-12-17 - AA73 - Los Angeles (LAX) STD 21:50 PST ATD 22:15 - Sydney (SYD) STA 07:55 AEDT ATA 07:30 AEDT

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Old Jun 9, 15, 6:41 am
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ARCHIVE: AA announces LAX-SYD-LAX 77W AA73 / AA72 (as of 17 December 2015)

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Old Jun 9, 15, 6:52 am
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LAX to Australia is a great addition! Did AA fly this route in the past?
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Old Jun 9, 15, 7:43 am
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LAX to Australia is a great addition! Did AA fly this route in the past?
Yes, via HNL before planes were capable of nonstop LAX-SYD.
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Old Jun 9, 15, 8:49 am
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I assume this will be a 77W...the question is will this be an additional frequency to the QF flights, or will QF reallocate some capacity?
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Old Jun 9, 15, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by PMMMDL View Post
I assume this will be a 77W...the question is will this be an additional frequency to the QF flights, or will QF reallocate some capacity?
I do agree, it will be interesting to see what comes of it. I don't see additional capacity but rather QF cutting some capacity.

I assume its going to be some kind of JV-ATI with QF.
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Old Jun 9, 15, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by PMMMDL View Post
I assume this will be a 77W...the question is will this be an additional frequency to the QF flights, or will QF reallocate some capacity?
Due to their financial troubles, its probably a reallocation of QF flying. They are parking 744s without replacement. There is plenty of flying between LAX and SYD, but recently there has been a glut of capacity on this route, see UA downgrading LAX/SFO-SYD to 772s (Keep in mind UA once had double daily 744s on this flight and the 772s face greater weight restrictions due to their PW engines). I think this is the end of JFK-LAX-SYD on QF metal. The 77W would make all sense in the world as it won't require weight restrictions like the Dreamliner. AA has three 77Ws to be delivered and with current state of affairs in Brazil right now, they might also pull some of the 77Ws off of GRU considering they have five daily 77W flights.
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I do agree, it will be interesting to see what comes of it. I don't see additional capacity but rather QF cutting some capacity.

I assume its going to be some kind of JV-ATI with QF.
For QF, it's another "dump the bump" opportunity, and I'm guessing there may be some arrangements to share revenue given the JBA. But I'm guessing here.
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Originally Posted by Jacobin777 View Post
I assume its going to be some kind of JV-ATI with QF.
Most definitely-- full integration.. There will be a QF component to the announce as well.
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For QF, it's another "dump the bump" opportunity, and I'm guessing there may be some arrangements to share revenue given the JBA. But I'm guessing here.
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Most definitely-- full integration.. There will be a QF component to the announce as well.
Thanks! ^
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Old Jun 9, 15, 9:29 am
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If it's a reallocation of QF flying, and I assume it's going to be one flight that replaces the later evening QF 744 flight, I think I'd rather fly QF in the back of the bus than in AA's 3-4-3 777s.

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Yes, via HNL before planes were capable of nonstop LAX-SYD.
Yes, it was a through-flight/connection situation. LAX/DFW-HNL-SYD/AKL. As an employee, I often took the DFW-HNL portion of the flight. At the time, it was an additional frequency between DFW and HNL (not 1 of the 2 daily nonstops). It featured a modified International Flagship Service (better meals, free drinks, and so forth).

Because of the time different, the DFW-HNL-SYD/AKL flight left DFW in the evening and return left HNL at midnight.
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I've flown the LAX-DFW route several times in QF Y. I've never flown AA Y on a TPAC route, so I hope their soft product isn't that worse compared to QF's.
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I've flown the LAX-DFW route several times in QF Y. I've never flown AA Y on a TPAC route, so I hope their soft product isn't that worse compared to QF's.
Do you mean LAX-SYD or DFW-SYD? QF doesn't fly LAX-DFW.

In my experience, AA's long haul Y is like other airlines Y: nothing glamorous, just transportation point A to point B. Service is hit or miss.
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Big announcement by American Airlines probably includes Australia

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...ustralia.html/


What else could it possibly be
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Old Jun 9, 15, 10:51 am
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They have hinted at it on Facebook.
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