Feb 17, 2016, 5:05 pm
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ARCHIVE: New Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge Coming to DFW Terminal D
Flagship Dining fully opened 3 Nov 2015 - hrs. 08:30 -
premium lounge still tba
Flagship Dining fully opened 3 Nov 2015 - hrs. 08:30 -
premium lounge still tba
The current thread is: DFW Flagship Dining (open Oct 2015)
NOTE: The previously designated smoking room in the Terminal D Admirals Club has been closed and refurbished as the interim Flagship Dining facility, 3 Nov 2015 specifically for dining (soft opening was 27 Oct). Wine, Champagne and beer are served; for other beverages, the Admirals Club bar will be used (chits are issued). (The Admirals Club itself will continue to serve as the lounge until the new premium lounge opens.)
From aa.com:
Flagship® Dining coming soon to DFW
Commencing November 3, select international passengers can enjoy exclusive access to Flagship® Dining, our premium dining experience inside our Terminal D Admirals Club® location at DFW.
Invited guests include passengers on eligible international itineraries (traveling to/from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City*) who are either:
Commencing November 3, select international passengers can enjoy exclusive access to Flagship® Dining, our premium dining experience inside our Terminal D Admirals Club® location at DFW.
Invited guests include passengers on eligible international itineraries (traveling to/from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City*) who are either:
- Traveling in First Class on American Airlines or oneworld® marketed and operated flights, or
- AAdvantage® Executive Platinum or oneworld® Emerald members traveling in any cabin**
NOTES: Admission rules are standard Flagship Lounge rules (see above). Boarding passes will be stamped at the entrance desk to demonstrate admission qualification and/or invitation cards issued.
*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City (and South Pacific, e.g. AKL, SYD) only.
**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean
Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City (and South Pacific, e.g. AKL, SYD) only.
**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean
Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
For discussion about the lack of a Flagship Lounge at DFW, see Why is there no Flagship Lounge / FL at DFW? (consolidated)
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The A Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge. These were closed after 11 September 2001; when the decision to make terminal D the c new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers.
At DFW-A, the old Flagship Lounge still exists and is used for an occasional function or NR passenger; the old Arrivals Lounge is still there, and though no longer in service it's showers -arguably the most spacious and luxurious in the AA system - and small gym remain for knowing passenger's or member's use. Look for these facilities on your immediate left (FL) and right (AL) as you exit the elevators on the second (Club) floor.
ARCHIVE: New Flagship Dining (Nov 2015) and Future Premium Lounge for DFW "D"
May 21, 2019, 6:30 pm
#676
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Has there been any update at all about a PHL flagship lounge?
May 21, 2019, 7:27 pm
#677
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Not according to Guide to Lounge Changes: Flagship Lounge, Admirals Club, etc.
May 29, 2019, 3:23 pm
#678
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At MIA, after arriving in BA F, I was informed that if I couldn't show proof of an onward flight, then I couldn't access FFD. I asked if this was specific to being on BA, and was told that it also applies to AA flights. I told them this wasn't my understanding of the policy, and cited numerous reports (including my own) of using FFD upon arrival at LAX and JFK without an onward flight. I didn't want to keep arguing a point that was a theoretical in my case (i.e., I had a BP for onward travel on AA, although on a different PNR), but I did suggest that they "check on the policy", as they may be getting a lot of eligible customers without onward connections in light of the LAX-MIA 3 cabin service. And as I read the rules, if you can get airside on the day of your arrival in F, you should get access. (yes, I know you shouldn't be buying tickets just to get airside for lounge access, but it is reasonable to have onward travel on a non-OW carrier)
May 29, 2019, 3:39 pm
#679
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At MIA, after arriving in BA F, I was informed that if I couldn't show proof of an onward flight, then I couldn't access FFD. I asked if this was specific to being on BA, and was told that it also applies to AA flights. I told them this wasn't my understanding of the policy, and cited numerous reports (including my own) of using FFD upon arrival at LAX and JFK without an onward flight. I didn't want to keep arguing a point that was a theoretical in my case (i.e., I had a BP for onward travel on AA, although on a different PNR), but I did suggest that they "check on the policy", as they may be getting a lot of eligible customers without onward connections in light of the LAX-MIA 3 cabin service. And as I read the rules, if you can get airside on the day of your arrival in F, you should get access. (yes, I know you shouldn't be buying tickets just to get airside for lounge access, but it is reasonable to have onward travel on a non-OW carrier)
But as a connecting BA pax you would be accessing the lounges under oneworld policy, which does require an onward oneworld flight. Basically as a an arriving BA F or J pax, if you didn't have an onward oneworld flight, you wouldn't be allowed into the Flagship Lounge to begin with, much less Flagship Dining.
Flagship Dining can be thought of as a lounge within a lounge, if you don't have an eligible flight that would get you into the FL then you won't be allowed to access FD either.
May 29, 2019, 4:33 pm
#680
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But as a connecting BA pax you would be accessing the lounges under oneworld policy, which does require an onward oneworld flight. Basically as a an arriving BA F or J pax, if you didn't have an onward oneworld flight, you wouldn't be allowed into the Flagship Lounge to begin with, much less Flagship Dining.
Flagship Dining can be thought of as a lounge within a lounge, if you don't have an eligible flight that would get you into the FL then you won't be allowed to access FD either.
Flagship Dining can be thought of as a lounge within a lounge, if you don't have an eligible flight that would get you into the FL then you won't be allowed to access FD either.
May 29, 2019, 7:44 pm
#681
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Has it been confirmed that those flying in BA F have FFD access? The FFD page seems pretty clear:
I might be flying BA F LHR-LAX and it would be nice if I had FFD access.
Departing flight must be marketed and operated by American on the same day (or before 6 a.m. the following day)
I might be flying BA F LHR-LAX and it would be nice if I had FFD access.
May 29, 2019, 7:54 pm
#682
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Is there an itinerary that would allow you to visit all four FFDs in a day?
May 29, 2019, 8:01 pm
#683
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Before the DFW lounge I think so, MIA-JFK-LAX-HKG in F would have been possible. With DFW perhaps if you did MIA-DFW-JFK-LAX-<somewhere in F> you could pull it off but not sure I'd want to do that.
May 29, 2019, 9:07 pm
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this should be a challenge.
May 29, 2019, 9:14 pm
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May 29, 2019, 9:39 pm
#686
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Has it been confirmed that those flying in BA F have FFD access? The FFD page seems pretty clear:
I might be flying BA F LHR-LAX and it would be nice if I had FFD access.
I might be flying BA F LHR-LAX and it would be nice if I had FFD access.
May 30, 2019, 5:45 am
#687
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Has it been confirmed that those flying in BA F have FFD access? The FFD page seems pretty clear:I might be flying BA F LHR-LAX and it would be nice if I had FFD access.
Now the BA situation is a little more complex. LAX-LHR, for example, is covered by the JV, so revenue is shared anyway, so why not grant access to the premium on ground experience for BA F flyers, but then again, logic doesn't always prevail.
May 30, 2019, 10:13 am
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My understanding is that some airlines, such as CX, pay AA to have their F pax access to the FFD, but only when another true OW F lounge is not available. Example, access at JFK, but not at LAX.
Now the BA situation is a little more complex. LAX-LHR, for example, is covered by the JV, so revenue is shared anyway, so why not grant access to the premium on ground experience for BA F flyers, but then again, logic doesn't always prevail.
Now the BA situation is a little more complex. LAX-LHR, for example, is covered by the JV, so revenue is shared anyway, so why not grant access to the premium on ground experience for BA F flyers, but then again, logic doesn't always prevail.
May 30, 2019, 1:31 pm
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May 30, 2019, 1:50 pm
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