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ARCHIVE: New Flagship Dining (Nov 2015) and Future Premium Lounge for DFW "D"

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ARCHIVE: New Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge Coming to DFW Terminal D
Flagship Dining fully opened 3 Nov 2015 - hrs. 08:30 -
premium lounge still tba


The current thread is: DFW Flagship Dining (open Oct 2015)
This thread is the archived file for discussion, including speculation, about the possible addition of a new Flagship Lounge and Premium Lounge at Dallas-Ft. Worth International. Terminal D, including the interim Flagship Dining.

NOTE: The previously designated smoking room in the Terminal D Admirals Club has been closed and refurbished as the interim Flagship Dining facility, 3 Nov 2015 specifically for dining (soft opening was 27 Oct). Wine, Champagne and beer are served; for other beverages, the Admirals Club bar will be used (chits are issued). (The Admirals Club itself will continue to serve as the lounge until the new premium lounge opens.)

From aa.com:

Flagship Dining coming soon to DFW

Commencing November 3, select international passengers can enjoy exclusive access to Flagship Dining, our premium dining experience inside our Terminal D Admirals Club location at DFW.

Invited guests include passengers on eligible international itineraries (traveling to/from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City*) who are either:
  • Traveling in First Class on American Airlines or oneworld marketed and operated flights, or
  • AAdvantage Executive Platinum or oneworld Emerald members traveling in any cabin**
NOTES: Admission rules are standard Flagship Lounge rules (see above). Boarding passes will be stamped at the entrance desk to demonstrate admission qualification and/or invitation cards issued.

*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America and Mexico City (and South Pacific, e.g. AKL, SYD) only.

**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean

Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
See Gary Leff's take on the "FLD", the old DFW Flagship Lounge, etc. here.

For discussion about the lack of a Flagship Lounge at DFW, see Why is there no Flagship Lounge / FL at DFW? (consolidated)

Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The A Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge. These were closed after 11 September 2001; when the decision to make terminal D the c new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers.

At DFW-A, the old Flagship Lounge still exists and is used for an occasional function or NR passenger; the old Arrivals Lounge is still there, and though no longer in service it's showers -arguably the most spacious and luxurious in the AA system - and small gym remain for knowing passenger's or member's use. Look for these facilities on your immediate left (FL) and right (AL) as you exit the elevators on the second (Club) floor.
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ARCHIVE: New Flagship Dining (Nov 2015) and Future Premium Lounge for DFW "D"

Old Feb 20, 2019, 2:47 pm
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AA isn't very clear about this, but are you allowed to dine at the FFD, leave, and come back later for drinks? I was told I wasn't allowed back into the MIA FFD recently (when I came back in after visiting the outdoor TGI Fridays) but would be allowed back in "just this one time."
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Gino Troian
AA isn't very clear about this, but are you allowed to dine at the FFD, leave, and come back later for drinks? I was told I wasn't allowed back into the MIA FFD recently (when I came back in after visiting the outdoor TGI Fridays) but would be allowed back in "just this one time."
I was allowed in/out at JFK a few weeks ago. I didn't leave the FL complex though (I went to take a shower, and asked the host if I could come back in after). Didn't seem like a big deal.
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Gino Troian
AA isn't very clear about this, but are you allowed to dine at the FFD, leave, and come back later for drinks? I was told I wasn't allowed back into the MIA FFD recently (when I came back in after visiting the outdoor TGI Fridays) but would be allowed back in "just this one time."
I've always been allowed back in regardless of whether I went to the FL or left it entirely. If the host or hostess ever gave me a hard time, I'd just go back to the check-in desk and get another FFD invite card.
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 3:51 pm
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Yeah, never had an issue at JFK or LAX, only MIA. FWIW it was the lady at the FSL desk (who hands out the invitations) that said it wasn't allowed. Probably could've just walked back in the FFD without asking and not had any problems...
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by ikwia
Sam Chui is reporting that BA First flyers get access to FFD (at least at MIA, but implied everywhere). Is this accurate? I've never seen this reported.
After seeing MANY pax that I assessed to likely be BA F flyers entering FFD (some with escorts), I asked about this and they confirmed that BA F now qualifies. Alas, this is not the same day as my flight.

Why is the rule rule same day flights? If I have an overnight connection Im not sure why my experience should be any less premium.
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by econometrics
I've been to FFD... and $300 extra for the "FS Select" is not worth it, IMO. Unless you will be there 4+ hours and your liver is prepared to consume enough Krug to offset it.
Agreed. But, and I mean this non-judgmentally, people purchasing Five Star to begin with have a very different value calculus than many of us do.
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Old Mar 16, 2019, 11:58 pm
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I can be dense, so I just want to ask.

I will be flying HKG JFK in CX F, arriving at 8PM March 27 and I have a AA JFK - CLT flight at 5AM March 28 (separate ticket, economy)

I should have access to JFK FF Dining, per this below rule yes? I am OWE but I dont think that matters.

Departing flight must be marketed and operated by American on the same day (or if connecting before 6 a.m. the following day).

Thank you, MB
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Old Mar 17, 2019, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by Mauibaby2008
I can be dense, so I just want to ask.

I will be flying HKG JFK in CX F, arriving at 8PM March 27 and I have a AA JFK - CLT flight at 5AM March 28 (separate ticket, economy)

I should have access to JFK FF Dining, per this below rule yes? I am OWE but I dont think that matters.

Departing flight must be marketed and operated by American on the same day (or if connecting before 6 a.m. the following day).

Thank you, MB
Yes, you should be good to go!
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Old Mar 17, 2019, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by Mauibaby2008
I can be dense, so I just want to ask.

I will be flying HKG JFK in CX F, arriving at 8PM March 27 and I have a AA JFK - CLT flight at 5AM March 28 (separate ticket, economy)

I should have access to JFK FF Dining, per this below rule yes? I am OWE but I dont think that matters.

Departing flight must be marketed and operated by American on the same day (or if connecting before 6 a.m. the following day).

Thank you, MB
Originally Posted by VXforever
Yes, you should be good to go!
Are you sure about that?

I believe the outbound (before 6am) refers to the international flight.

OP - please report back. And good luck.
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Old Mar 17, 2019, 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by Global321
I believe the outbound (before 6am) refers to the international flight.
My understanding is that the rule is specifically to accommodate overnight connections "close to" the first flight out (the rule is 6 AM rather than first flight). I've never seen any restriction that the next-day flight be the international one. I'd be quite surprised if the poster has any question or problem with access.
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Old Mar 17, 2019, 8:49 am
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Old Mar 17, 2019, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by anabolism
My understanding is that the rule is specifically to accommodate overnight connections "close to" the first flight out (the rule is 6 AM rather than first flight). I've never seen any restriction that the next-day flight be the international one. I'd be quite surprised if the poster has any question or problem with access.
OP's only problem is that they will have exactly one hour from when FFD officially opens until the scheduled departure of the flight. So make sure to let them know as soon as you get in that your flight boards in 30 min!
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Old Mar 19, 2019, 11:25 pm
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I was told by one of my favorite servers at one of the Flagship First Dining lounges that AA isn't renewing Sodexo's contract to run the lounges and Host will be taking over in a couple of weeks. It'll be interesting to see how the transfer is managed and what the new product will be like.
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Old Mar 20, 2019, 5:06 am
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Originally Posted by Mauibaby2008
I can be dense, so I just want to ask.

I will be flying HKG JFK in CX F, arriving at 8PM March 27 and I have a AA JFK - CLT flight at 5AM March 28 (separate ticket, economy)

I should have access to JFK FF Dining, per this below rule yes? I am OWE but I dont think that matters.

Departing flight must be marketed and operated by American on the same day (or if connecting before 6 a.m. the following day).

Thank you, MB
Originally Posted by Global321
Are you sure about that?

I believe the outbound (before 6am) refers to the international flight.

OP - please report back. And good luck.
Originally Posted by anabolism
My understanding is that the rule is specifically to accommodate overnight connections "close to" the first flight out (the rule is 6 AM rather than first flight). I've never seen any restriction that the next-day flight be the international one. I'd be quite surprised if the poster has any question or problem with access.
Yea, the "before 6am" flight can be either the international or the domestic connecting flight.

And IME most AA lounge agents are confused by this rule and/or just don't enforce the 6am time strictly, especially if you have all your boarding passes and are trying to access a lounge the day before or after.

That said, I would expect FFD to be more strict in general, however still should be no problem as this scenario is within the rules. Obviously since its separate tickets hang on to the CX BP to show for entry.
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Old Mar 20, 2019, 6:04 pm
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Has anyone had luck getting a gate pass to renter security for FFD after arriving on an international flight with a domestic connection the following morning?
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