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Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related

Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related

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AA Flagship First Dining includes JFK, DFW, LAX, and MIA. The LAX facility is currently closed

This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes

Link to Flagship First Dining Terms and Conditions page on aa.com

Access
A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld airline in the first class cabin on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship First Dining, located within certain select Flagship Lounges.

Qualifying transcontinental flights
Three-class non-stop flights between: New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating with three classes sold
LAX and BOS if operating with three classes sold


Guest access
Flagship First International: 1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)

Flagship First Transcontinental: No guests

Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship Lounge; Flagship First Dining is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.

Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining.
(Concierge Key may use passes.)


Locations

Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship Lounge.
Open daily 12:00 to 20:30

New York (JFK) Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship Lounge.
Open daily 04:30 to 00:15

Los Angeles (LAX) Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Currently closed

Miami (MIA) Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 13:00 to 22:30


Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.

Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". That has been rectified with the opening of DFW D Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge and Flagship First Dining. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".
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Old Sep 6, 22, 10:32 pm
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Another good FFD experience at JFK, followed by a crap flight to LAX.








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Old Sep 7, 22, 4:43 pm
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Flying out Friday on BA metal DFW-LHR. Hope I get an opportunity to try FFD. If not, I can spend a few hours of my six hour layover playing with the toilets that shoot water, etc. lol
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Old Sep 11, 22, 8:08 pm
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I had the roasted vegetable strudel and although it didnt look amazing it tasted great. I highly recommend it. The crostini trio was okay, nothing special and the crab balls average. Service was good. I agree with others that pouring water from the blue Just Water cartons does distract from the premium experience but I can live with it.
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Old Sep 12, 22, 4:40 pm
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So, on DFW- AKL paid Business class can I (EXP) and DW (P) eat at FFDining.

Also, on DFW LHR business reward later in the year same question about FFD.
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Old Sep 12, 22, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Lonedaddy View Post
So, on DFW- AKL paid Business class can I (EXP) and DW (P) eat at FFDining.

Also, on DFW LHR business reward later in the year same question about FFD.
No. You need to be in F to access FFD. In business you can access the Flagship Lounge but not FFD.
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Old Sep 13, 22, 10:12 pm
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JFK-DOH-PER (Qatar QSuites connecting to Qatar A380 First)

Hey all,

Ah the vagaries of FFD access policies. Used to do JFK-LAX-HKGs in FF and access to FFD at both ends was no problem, although to be frank I would usually go to the Qantas F lounge during my LA layover.

Anyway, have flights booked departing JFK on Qatar QSuites (out of T8) to DOH and then connecting on a separate PNR on one of their rare A380s in first to PER. The first flight was booked with AA miles, the second with QR Avios. AA does provide QR's PNR, so I do have both QR PNRs, but it's a little unclear based on calls to the QR phone staff how to merge PNR if at all possible. The most consistent answer is that they can do so at the airport at check in (and we will be checking in with QR at JFK notwithstanding that the tickets were purchased using Advantage miles), but I have read elsewhere that they do not merge PNRs. We will see. At least I think they will interline bags.

Merged PNRs notwithstanding, do you think we will get FFD at JFK based on the connection to the QR flight from DOH to PER in F? I can't imagine trying to explain this at the airport. I would think if I can get the PNRs merged at the airport with a single itinerary that it might make things a little easier in that it shows the connection, but who knows.

Interestingly this will be after the opening of the new lounge complex at JFK, and I guess we really have no idea what is happening with that (an update would be nice), although it would seem to me there will be some form of more exclusive lounge to replace the Concorde Room at T7 as well as the other tiers of lounges we have seen described in other posts. Just wondering what your thoughts would be if we were leaving on this trip prior to the new lounges opening (god willing).

Thanks!
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Old Sep 14, 22, 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by jmccarron View Post
Hey all,

Ah the vagaries of FFD access policies. Used to do JFK-LAX-HKGs in FF and access to FFD at both ends was no problem, although to be frank I would usually go to the Qantas F lounge during my LA layover.

Anyway, have flights booked departing JFK on Qatar QSuites (out of T8) to DOH and then connecting on a separate PNR on one of their rare A380s in first to PER. The first flight was booked with AA miles, the second with QR Avios. AA does provide QR's PNR, so I do have both QR PNRs, but it's a little unclear based on calls to the QR phone staff how to merge PNR if at all possible. The most consistent answer is that they can do so at the airport at check in (and we will be checking in with QR at JFK notwithstanding that the tickets were purchased using Advantage miles), but I have read elsewhere that they do not merge PNRs. We will see. At least I think they will interline bags.

Merged PNRs notwithstanding, do you think we will get FFD at JFK based on the connection to the QR flight from DOH to PER in F? I can't imagine trying to explain this at the airport. I would think if I can get the PNRs merged at the airport with a single itinerary that it might make things a little easier in that it shows the connection, but who knows.

Interestingly this will be after the opening of the new lounge complex at JFK, and I guess we really have no idea what is happening with that (an update would be nice), although it would seem to me there will be some form of more exclusive lounge to replace the Concorde Room at T7 as well as the other tiers of lounges we have seen described in other posts. Just wondering what your thoughts would be if we were leaving on this trip prior to the new lounges opening (god willing).

Thanks!
Who knows what the new situation will be like in T8 but just on FFD access based on current rules I dont think you would be granted access b/c you arent flying AA metal, status doesnt matter outside of CK. Also, QR doesnt have an agreement at JFK with AA b/c they dont have any A380's or the leased CX 777's there so I dont believe flying on QR F out of Doha has any impact.
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Old Sep 14, 22, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by jmccarron View Post
Merged PNRs notwithstanding, do you think we will get FFD at JFK based on the connection to the QR flight from DOH to PER in F? I can't imagine trying to explain this at the airport. I would think if I can get the PNRs merged at the airport with a single itinerary that it might make things a little easier in that it shows the connection, but who knows.
No. Merging PNR's isn't possible, asking at the airport won't matter, all they can do is just check your bags through to PER (which QR will do on separate tix).

And regardless of what the new lounge situation at JFK looks like there's not a scenario in the world I can think of where you could access FFD (or a future T8 Concorde Room) based on a QR F departure from DOH the next day.
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Old Sep 14, 22, 4:56 pm
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Impossible burger at JFK FFD. Its was pretty decent. Would order again.
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Old Sep 16, 22, 4:33 pm
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FFD Guest Access

I know flying MIA-LHR in F I can bring a guest but what are the requirements of the guests ticket?

Is it they must be on the same exact flight? Or just any AA flight? Or could it even be any OW flight?

And they can be in Y on the required flight?
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Old Sep 16, 22, 5:15 pm
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Originally Posted by happiest_at_40000 View Post
I know flying MIA-LHR in F I can bring a guest but what are the requirements of the guests ticket?

Is it they must be on the same exact flight? Or just any AA flight? Or could it even be any OW flight?

And they can be in Y on the required flight?
AFAIK the guest just needs a same day departure on AA or oneworld, class doesn't matter. Same basic guest rules as the AC.
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Old Sep 16, 22, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey View Post
AFAIK the guest just needs a same day departure on AA or oneworld, class doesn't matter. Same basic guest rules as the AC.
Awesome thanks.. Just hope MIA agents dont try to say they must be on same flight b/c that wont be the case. Just on a domestic Y on AA.
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Old Sep 19, 22, 11:33 pm
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I plan to fly the SFO-JFK redeye in F. If I fly DFW-SFO earlier in the day, am I correct in assuming that I should have access to FFD in DFW in addition to JFK the next day? TIA.
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Old Sep 19, 22, 11:50 pm
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I plan to fly the SFO-JFK redeye in F. If I fly DFW-SFO earlier in the day, am I correct in assuming that I should have access to FFD in DFW in addition to JFK the next day? TIA.
You should yes. Now if you were flying in from DFW late the night before then no but same day as your red eye departure you are good. I dont have much exp. with DFW FL/FFD but hopefully there are no issues.
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Old Sep 22, 22, 6:11 pm
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Was offered admission today at DFW upon arrival from LHR on BA F, connecting to IAH. Based on the Wiki, this is not stated or implied so I assume its a YMMV situation? (Im not a regular AA/BA flyer.)

Enjoying the LPGS as we speak. Same thing they served on the BA flight, so Ive had my fill today!
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