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Guide: LAX / Los Angeles TBIT / Bradley Int値. oneworld Lounges

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Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal oneworld Lounges
(oneworld Premium Lounge operated by Qantas) and Qantas First Lounge

Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)

See AA T-4 - LAX TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 for airside access via the new secure airside connector.
oneworld Los Angeles Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30 (but see linked page for changes)

AMENITIES:
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Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.

Qantas First Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30 (but see linked page for changes)

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Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
Access rules: (v. Mar 12, 2016)

Qantas First Lounge

Must be traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated flight ("qualifying flight") and be
  • departing in, or connecting from, first class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours, or

  • traveling in first class on a three-class domestic flight (currently JFK-LAX or SFO and return, some LAX-MIA), or (2017 change) First LAX-MIA-LAX.

  • a oneworld Emerald cardholder.
    • Exception: AA Executive Platinum members are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
Also note: ...customers travelling in First class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access. oneworld lounge access page - link
Originally Posted by Ready Reckoner
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
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  • Non AAdvantage oneworld Emerald travelling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
  • AAdvantage Executive Platinum travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First Class passengers travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connectingァ to/from a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First Class passengers travelling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York or Los Angeles & Miami.
* A "North American* Itinerary" is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
oneworld Los Angeles Lounge (business lounge operated by Qantas)

Note this is a oneworld lounge, not a Qantas Club. It is not part of any reciprocity agreement with Admirals Club.

Must be traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated flight ("qualifying flight") and be
  • departing in, or connecting from, first or business class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours, or

  • traveling in first or business class on a three-class domestic flight (currently JFK-LAX or SFO and returns, and LAX-MIA - changed in 2017 to include MIA-LAX-MIA two class flights), or

  • a oneworld Emerald or Sapphire cardholder.
    • Exception: AA Executive Platinum and Platinum members are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
Originally Posted by Ready Reckoner
For access to the oneworld Business Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
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  • Non AAdvantage oneworld Sapphire or Emerald travelling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
  • AAdvantage Platinum or Executive Platinum travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First and Business Class passengers travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • Passengers in First or Business Class on a flight longer than five hours connectingァ to/from a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First Class and Business class passengers travelling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York or Los Angeles & Miami.
* A "North American* Itinerary" is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
Link to walk through of new TBIT oneworld lounge operated by Qantas.

Each of the three alliances was given lounge space at the new TBIT, the square footage determined by how large each alliance is at LAX. As oneworld is the largest alliance at LAX, it was given the largest lounge space. Then each alliance chose one airline to operate the lounge - Qantas for oneworld, Air New Zealand for Star and Korean Air for SkyTeam.

Emirates was also given their own lounge space and there will be a third-party lounge for non-affiliated carriers...
Link to review, with photos, on BoardingArea.

See this blog for many photos.




You can now travel between AA Terminal 4 and Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) via the new secure airside connector, and between the American Airlines and the legacy US Airways / Alaska terminals without leaving Security via airside connection or shuttle service T-4 <-> T-6. The shuttle runs every 15 minutes between 5:00 a.m. and 11:00 p.m., with stops at Terminal 6 (Gate 65A) and Terminal 4 (down escalator by Gate 44) - or take a 10-minute walk via the connecting tunnel. Yet another shuttle bus from ground level by Gate 44 connects to the Remote (American Eagle) terminal, with its own Club.
  • For LAX Flagship Lounge, see to here)

  • For the "Eagle's Nest" Admirals Club in the remote American Eagle terminal see here.

  • For the Terminal 4 Gate 40 Admirals Cub, see here.
Finally, a new Admirals Club has opened in Terminal 5 in the previous Delta Airlines lounge.

Older posts regarding the old lounge closure and discussing the new oneworld lounge prior to opening are located in this archived thread ARCHIVE: new Qantas operated oneworld lounge at LAX TBIT; old lounge closed.
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Old May 8, 19, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by TWA884 View Post
As of April 2018, there are TSA PreCheck security lanes at TBIT (LAX TBIT (Terminal B) TSA Pre✓ [Now Open]).
While indeed true, that has nothing to do with the recommendations which were specifically for someone that does not have PreCheck.
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Old May 9, 19, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by beachfan View Post
No. But it痴 an easy walk to the Qantas Lounge airside from T4. T4 checkin is more sane anyway.
Thanks guys! Made it to the QF lounge !
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Old Aug 22, 19, 9:21 pm
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Hi All,

I am flying through LAX on a domestic itinerary in Business class that includes a flight from LAX to MIA on board the 3 class 77W. Flight is currently scheduled to leave out of TBIT.

Will I have access to the OW/QF J lounge? I know I have Flagship access, just unsure about what is or isn't available to me in TBIT, reports in this thread seem to indicate that YMMV and its been a few months.

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Old Aug 22, 19, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by sgan317 View Post
Hi All,

I am flying through LAX on a domestic itinerary in Business class that includes a flight from LAX to MIA on board the 3 class 77W. Flight is currently scheduled to leave out of TBIT.

Will I have access to the OW/QF J lounge? I know I have Flagship access, just unsure about what is or isn't available to me in TBIT, reports in this thread seem to indicate that YMMV and its been a few months.

Thanks!
The flagship lounge at T4 IS available to you as a customer flying business on 77w lax Mia. If before Oct 29. It is a short airside walk from the flagship lounge to TBIT.
I think you dont have access to the OW lounge.
unless you are emerald or saphire with a non-AA airline (BA, etc)
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Old Aug 23, 19, 11:49 am
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I've used the QF business class lounge in TBIT when flying 3-class J on LAX-MIA - you have the same lounge access as LAX-JFK 3-class J - meaning QF J at TBIT or AA flagship at T4 based on class on service, no status required. But that was back when 77W was year round on the schedule. I'm really not sure what the policy is now that 77W is not year round.
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Old Aug 23, 19, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
I've used the QF business class lounge in TBIT when flying 3-class J on LAX-MIA - you have the same lounge access as LAX-JFK 3-class J - meaning QF J at TBIT or AA flagship at T4 based on class on service, no status required. But that was back when 77W was year round on the schedule. I'm really not sure what the policy is now that 77W is not year round.
Just based on the fine print, OW lounge access has to consider any OW agreements.
For OW lounge access purposes, LAX-MIA is no different than LAX-LAS?
The transcon (Benefit) exception to access lounges is nowhere in the OW fine print, just AA. Isn't it?
Seems to me a perk offered by AA to transcon J/F pax, not a OW rule.
I know there might be anecdotal experience but as far as what the published rules are, I don't see how transcon pax have access to OW lounges based on fare class.
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Old Aug 23, 19, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by carlosdca View Post
Just based on the fine print, OW lounge access has to consider any OW agreements.
For OW lounge access purposes, LAX-MIA is no different than LAX-LAS?
The transcon (Benefit) exception to access lounges is nowhere in the OW fine print, just AA. Isn't it?
Seems to me a perk offered by AA to transcon J/F pax, not a OW rule.
I know there might be anecdotal experience but as far as what the published rules are, I don't see how transcon pax have access to OW lounges based on fare class.
You're thinking about it the wrong way. The oneworld rules say any First or Business class flight (all destinations all oneworld carriers) comes with lounge access. AA then has it's own exception within those rules that say business class flights wholly within N. America do not get lounge access, except for MEX and the premium transcons of JFK-LAX/SFO and MIA-LAX.

Basically any oneworld F or J flight comes with lounge access by default unless it specifically called out as an exception, and MIA-LAX isn't included in the N. America exception, so good to go.
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Old Aug 23, 19, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey View Post
You're thinking about it the wrong way. The oneworld rules say any First or Business class flight (all destinations all oneworld carriers) comes with lounge access. AA then has it's own exception within those rules that say business class flights wholly within N. America do not get lounge access, except for MEX and the premium transcons of JFK-LAX/SFO and MIA-LAX.

Basically any oneworld F or J flight comes with lounge access by default unless it specifically called out as an exception, and MIA-LAX isn't included in the N. America exception, so good to go.
Data points support this. TBIT OW J lounge is my daughter's go-to when she's flying transcon J. Has never been rebuffed or challenged.
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Old Aug 24, 19, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey View Post
You're thinking about it the wrong way. The oneworld rules say any First or Business class flight (all destinations all oneworld carriers) comes with lounge access. AA then has it's own exception within those rules that say business class flights wholly within N. America do not get lounge access, except for MEX and the premium transcons of JFK-LAX/SFO and MIA-LAX.

Basically any oneworld F or J flight comes with lounge access by default unless it specifically called out as an exception, and MIA-LAX isn't included in the N. America exception, so good to go.
Confusion may arise though, because the oneworld lounge access page no longer refers to the transcons. ISTR that it once did, and the wiki has the quote and link there, but it has been removed from the oneworld website.
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Old Aug 26, 19, 1:24 pm
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The AA lounge access rules are very clear... transcon is defined as:
1 LAX<-->JFK
2 SFO<-->JFK
3 LAX<-->BOS on A321T
4 LAX<-->MIA on 777-300ER

Note that 2 out of the 4 routes defined as transcon has equipment restrictions. https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...lub-access.jsp



OneWorld lounge grants default access to any member airline F and J class PAX except where prohibited by member airline policy. In this case, AA policy has transcon exception. So one shouldn't have any problem visiting the OW J lounge at LAX if traveling on the seasonal LAX-MIA daily 777-300ER J ticket.

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Originally Posted by deeruck View Post
Confusion may arise though, because the oneworld lounge access page no longer refers to the transcons. ISTR that it once did, and the wiki has the quote and link there, but it has been removed from the oneworld website.
It certainly did on the oneworld site and still exists on the Qantas website: (Although BOS is not mentioned, nor aircraft type.)

oneworld Alliance | Qantas AU
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oneworld lounge access for First or Business Class customers

Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
  • Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.
  • First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.
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The following exception applies:

1. First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S.A or between the U.S.A and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean) other than the exception listed below:

2. Customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S.A transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
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Old Aug 26, 19, 8:33 pm
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what rule could the LAX QF J lounge agent cite to deny a no-status passenger flying AA LAX-LAS on a $175 "I" fare who makes his way from T4 to Bradley?

the above exceptions speak to AA lounges, not QF lounges
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Old Aug 26, 19, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Colin View Post
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the above exceptions speak to AA lounges, not QF lounges
In practice, the rules on that page are for all oneworld lounges.

So a Business Class passenger can access the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status except when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S.A or between the U.S.A and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). The exception has an exception and does not apply when travelling in First or Business class on specific U.S.A transcontinental flights.
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In practice, the rules on that page are for all oneworld lounges.

So a Business Class passenger can access the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status except when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S.A or between the U.S.A and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). The exception has an exception and does not apply when travelling in First or Business class on specific U.S.A transcontinental flights.
they should hire an English speaker then to draft a paragraph saying that
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Old Sep 3, 19, 6:43 am
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Flying in a few weeks from LAX-JFK-LHR. All in Y waitlist for BC
My LAX-JFK flight is at 1230 am with a 13 hr layover in JFK. Technically my LAX-JFK departs the same day as the JFK-LHR flight (1040PM)
I should have access to the QF First lounge correct?

Iam Ex Plat / Emerald traveling with one companion

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