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Guide: LAX / Los Angeles TBIT / Bradley Int値. oneworld Lounges

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Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal oneworld Lounges
(oneworld Premium Lounge operated by Qantas) and Qantas First Lounge

Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)

See AA T-4 - LAX TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 for airside access via the new secure airside connector.
oneworld Los Angeles Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30 (but see linked page for changes)

AMENITIES:
  • WiFi
  • Computer connected to Internet
  • Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
  • Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
  • Barista and coffee selections
  • Shower suites (16)
Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.

Qantas First Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30 (but see linked page for changes)

AMENITIES:
  • WiFi
  • Computer connected to Internet
  • Neil Perry restaurant (74 seats, a la carte dining)
  • Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
  • Barista with coffee selections
  • Shower suites (7)
  • Business suites (2 - can be combined for conference room)
  • Shirt pressing (First)
Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
Access rules: (v. Mar 12, 2016)

Qantas First Lounge

Must be traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated flight ("qualifying flight") and be
  • departing in, or connecting from, first class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours, or

  • traveling in first class on a three-class domestic flight (currently JFK-LAX or SFO and return, some LAX-MIA), or (2017 change) First LAX-MIA-LAX.

  • a oneworld Emerald cardholder.
    • Exception: AA Executive Platinum members are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
Also note: ...customers travelling in First class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access. oneworld lounge access page - link
Originally Posted by Ready Reckoner
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
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  • Non AAdvantage oneworld Emerald travelling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
  • AAdvantage Executive Platinum travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First Class passengers travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connectingァ to/from a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First Class passengers travelling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York or Los Angeles & Miami.
* A "North American* Itinerary" is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
oneworld Los Angeles Lounge (business lounge operated by Qantas)

Note this is a oneworld lounge, not a Qantas Club. It is not part of any reciprocity agreement with Admirals Club.

Must be traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated flight ("qualifying flight") and be
  • departing in, or connecting from, first or business class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours, or

  • traveling in first or business class on a three-class domestic flight (currently JFK-LAX or SFO and returns, and LAX-MIA - changed in 2017 to include MIA-LAX-MIA two class flights), or

  • a oneworld Emerald or Sapphire cardholder.
    • Exception: AA Executive Platinum and Platinum members are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
Originally Posted by Ready Reckoner
For access to the oneworld Business Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
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  • Non AAdvantage oneworld Sapphire or Emerald travelling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
  • AAdvantage Platinum or Executive Platinum travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First and Business Class passengers travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • Passengers in First or Business Class on a flight longer than five hours connectingァ to/from a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  • First Class and Business class passengers travelling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York or Los Angeles & Miami.
* A "North American* Itinerary" is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
Link to walk through of new TBIT oneworld lounge operated by Qantas.

Each of the three alliances was given lounge space at the new TBIT, the square footage determined by how large each alliance is at LAX. As oneworld is the largest alliance at LAX, it was given the largest lounge space. Then each alliance chose one airline to operate the lounge - Qantas for oneworld, Air New Zealand for Star and Korean Air for SkyTeam.

Emirates was also given their own lounge space and there will be a third-party lounge for non-affiliated carriers...
Link to review, with photos, on BoardingArea.

See this blog for many photos.




You can now travel between AA Terminal 4 and Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) via the new secure airside connector, and between the American Airlines and the legacy US Airways / Alaska terminals without leaving Security via airside connection or shuttle service T-4 <-> T-6. The shuttle runs every 15 minutes between 5:00 a.m. and 11:00 p.m., with stops at Terminal 6 (Gate 65A) and Terminal 4 (down escalator by Gate 44) - or take a 10-minute walk via the connecting tunnel. Yet another shuttle bus from ground level by Gate 44 connects to the Remote (American Eagle) terminal, with its own Club.
  • For LAX Flagship Lounge, see to here)

  • For the "Eagle's Nest" Admirals Club in the remote American Eagle terminal see here.

  • For the Terminal 4 Gate 40 Admirals Cub, see here.
Finally, a new Admirals Club has opened in Terminal 5 in the previous Delta Airlines lounge.

Older posts regarding the old lounge closure and discussing the new oneworld lounge prior to opening are located in this archived thread ARCHIVE: new Qantas operated oneworld lounge at LAX TBIT; old lounge closed.
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Old Nov 10, 15, 2:02 pm
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Third party information I have come across was that after online publication of "the letter", initiatives were made to correct the poorly defined information and advise staff that non AA elites were indeed to be permitted entry before a oneworld flight (including AA domestic).

Unfortunately, the message got lost somewhere across the Pacific and staff received further education that merely reinforced the earlier incorrect information.

In the last few days staff have been appraised of the correct access criteria.

I do know of a Qantas Elite who yesterday was admitted prior to an AA domestic flight as part of a domestic itinerary.

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I do know of a Qantas Elite who yesterday was admitted prior to an AA domestic flight as part of a domestic itinerary.
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Third party information I have come across was that after online publication of "the letter", initiatives were made to correct the poorly defined information and advise staff that non AA elites were indeed to be permitted entry before a oneworld flight (including AA domestic).

Unfortunately, the message got lost somewhere across the Pacific and staff received further education that merely reinforced the earlier incorrect information.

In the last few days staff have been appraised of the correct access criteria.

I do know of a Qantas Elite who yesterday was admitted prior to an AA domestic flight as part of a domestic itinerary.
I trust that staff have also been retrained to recognise that Qantas Club members whose next flight is a QF numbered flight will also have access.
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so can aa-executive platinums say access the lounge on aa-metal flights leaving from terminal 4 to international destinations? (willing do security twice)
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Visited the TBIT Qantas lounge just this morning before my LAX-DCA flight on AA. Nice lounge. Strange circumstances.

Departing on a domestic AA flight from gate 155 in TBIT to DCA in First. There was a special shuttle for connecting pax from T4 to TBIT. Staff says this is day #2 of this new shuttle from gate 44 where the Qantas shuttle picks up, and others.

Drops us the far end, in a no-man's-land section of TBIT. Looks unused. Very long walk but WOW, nice terminal, like T5 LHR on steroids. But I digress.

Lost and confused I approached the Qantas lounge asking where the Admirals Club is. Agent said - this is the oneworld lounge, let me see your BP. "You're in First and Emerald...come right in."

I am a rule-follower so I said, "but, it's domestic First on AA" --- she consults a manual, looks confused and says come on in. So I did. And I liked it. A lot.

Your mileage may definitely vary.

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Visited the TBIT Qantas lounge just this morning before my LAX-DCA flight on AA. Nice lounge. Strange circumstances.

Departing on a domestic AA flight from gate 155 in TBIT to DCA in First. There was a special shuttle for connecting pax from T4 to TBIT. Staff says this is day #2 of this new shuttle from gate 44 where the Qantas shuttle picks up, and others.

Drops us the far end, in a no-man's-land section of TBIT. Looks unused. Very long walk but WOW, nice terminal, like T5 LHR on steroids. But I digress.

Lost and confused I approached the Qantas lounge asking where the Admirals Club is. Agent said - this is the oneworld lounge, let me see your BP. "You're in First and Emerald...come right in."

I am a rule-follower so I said, "but, it's domestic First on AA" --- she consults a manual, looks confused and says come on in. So I did. And I liked it. A lot.

Your mileage may definitely vary.
My mileage definitely did vary in October!

As long as you were a Oneworld Emerald through an airline other than AA then you should have been allowed in whatever class you were in domestically. The staff may still be confused since they were twice given incorrect rules to follow and it can't have been good for their morale to find that many of those they turned away should have been admitted.

Now that there is a regular shuttle it won't be too bad for those who only have AC access as well. Some of the blame for the mess certainly goes to AA.
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I think its interesting that the QF lounge uses Caroma toilets, which is an Australian company. I guess USA made toilets wern't good enough for them haha
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Is 4 hours enough to visit the QF F lounge in TBIT from T4? I guess I won't be able to use the shuttle from T4 to TBIT and would require me to leave the secured area and clear security at TBIT and do it again for T4?
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Is 4 hours enough to visit the QF F lounge in TBIT from T4? I guess I won't be able to use the shuttle from T4 to TBIT and would require me to leave the secured area and clear security at TBIT and do it again for T4?
Assuming you're both arriving into and departing from T4, you will indeed have to leave T4, clear security at TBIT, then leave TBIT and reclear security at T4. Is there enough time for all of that to occur and still spend a bit of time at the lounge? Yes there should be.

Just be sure you'll qualify for access to the TBIT lounge... Access rules are strictly enforced there; in recent times they were even making up their own rules, and may still turn you away due to "overcrowding" if you're not departing from TBIT.
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I think its interesting that the QF lounge uses Caroma toilets, which is an Australian company. I guess USA made toilets wern't good enough for them haha
No reflection on US made toilets intended - Qantas just wants Yanks to get used to the counterclockwise flush while safely ensconced in their familiar home environment. Much easier to come to terms with at TBIT rather than the Qantas Club in SYD while suffering jet lag/sleep deprivation and just after a first encounter with Vegemite during the pre-arrival breakfast service. There is only so much culture shock an American can be expected to deal with in a short space of time.
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Just be sure you'll qualify for access to the TBIT lounge... Access rules are strictly enforced there; in recent times they were even making up their own rules, and may still turn you away due to "overcrowding" if you're not departing from TBIT.
I believe full re-education has been provided to the the QF lounge staff. (Eight weeks ago they were incorrectly told to deny access to any passenger on an AA flight out of LAX.)

Given richh1833 is a Qantas Platinum (*O Emerald) they should have no issues accessing either TBIT lounge if they are departing LAX on an AA flight (and have their Qantas frequent flyer number in the booking).
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Assuming you're both arriving into and departing from T4, you will indeed have to leave T4, clear security at TBIT, then leave TBIT and reclear security at T4. Is there enough time for all of that to occur and still spend a bit of time at the lounge? Yes there should be.

Just be sure you'll qualify for access to the TBIT lounge... Access rules are strictly enforced there; in recent times they were even making up their own rules, and may still turn you away due to "overcrowding" if you're not departing from TBIT.
May be a dumb question, but how do you leave TBIT? Can you just walk out through baggage claim like a domestic? No need for customs etc?
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Originally Posted by serfty View Post
I believe full re-education has been provided to the the QF lounge staff. (Eight weeks ago they were incorrectly told to deny access to any passenger on an AA flight out of LAX.)

Given richh1833 is a Qantas Platinum (*O Emerald) they should have no issues accessing either TBIT lounge if they are departing LAX on an AA flight (and have their Qantas frequent flyer number in the booking).
So... the point stands.

Originally Posted by ESFLYER95 View Post
May be a dumb question, but how do you leave TBIT? Can you just walk out through baggage claim like a domestic? No need for customs etc?
Correct: TBIT is set up to handle both domestic and international traffic, so it's quite easy to leave like any domestic arriving passenger would.
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Anyone have success getting into the lounge as a AA EXP arriving international and departing on AA domestic?
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