FoundersCard AA Platinum Status for 3 months (2015)
Apr 22, 2015, 2:28 am
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FoundersCard AA Platinum Status for 3 months (2015)
This would only be useful for FoundersCard members, but they are offering AA Platinum Status for 3 months May to August 2015. Also requires enrollment in the Business Extras Program. It then provides a "no charge" AA Platinum Challenge.
For a limited time, Receive Automatic AAdvantage® Platinum Status for a 90 day period (10th of August 2015 to the 8th November 2015)
To receive AAdvantage Platinum status from the 10th of August 2015 to the 8th November 2015. The requirements for the challenge are :
Many of the benefits of FoundersCard are replicated in other places; and most Miles+Points savvy folks already have those statuses (like Hilton HHonors Gold). Personally, the only "really worthwhile status" (that is not easily obtainable by other means) from FoundersCard is Caesars Diamond Status since that alone can pay for the membership (if optimized properly). Since the membership is $395, this is not something someone would likely "jump on" unless they needed Caesars Status and a "free" AA Platinum Challenge; but I figured it would be of use for some people.
I do receive referral bonuses for recommending people to FoundersCard, but it's almost 100% focused on Caesars Diamond Status and optimising the use of that status. The is mostly because I am quite passionate about helping people get the most out of the Total Rewards Loyalty Program.
I am not sure if I am going to sign-up for the AA Platinum Status, since most of my May to August travel has already been purchased. I posted about this offer yesterday, shortly after it was announced. (please note, this is my own blog that is being linked)
One other point to be aware of is that FoundersCard has an automatic yearly renewal; so if someone was inclined to join for the purpose of one or two benefits (for only one year) please make sure you cancel before the automatic renewal term. For some programs like Caesars Total Rewards, you can almost get 2-3 years out of one membership year if you time things correctly. But, another warning, there is no guarantee that a loyalty program will be renewed from year to year.
Moderator note: This is "live" once again, as follows, according to baccarat_king.
For a limited time, Receive Automatic AAdvantage® Platinum Status for a 90 day period (10th of August 2015 to the 8th November 2015)
Extend your elite status to *28 February 2017 *by earning 10,000 elite-qualifying points between 10 August and 8th November 2015 on eligible, purchased, published fare tickets on select airlines.
Extend your elite status to *28 February 2017 *by earning 10,000 elite-qualifying points between 10 August and 8th November 2015 on eligible, purchased, published fare tickets on select airlines.
To receive AAdvantage Platinum status from the 10th of August 2015 to the 8th November 2015. The requirements for the challenge are :
- Join FoundersCard (takes 24-48 hours)
- Enroll in American Airlines Business Extra Program prior to 31st July 2015 (or use your or your companies current Business Extra Program Number)
- Redeem benefit (prior to the 31st of July 2015), and receive AAdvantage Platinum Status 10th August to 8th November 2015
- Extend your elite status to 28 February 2017 by earning 10,000 elite-qualifying points between 10 August and 8th November 2015 on eligible, purchased, published fare tickets on select airlines.
Many of the benefits of FoundersCard are replicated in other places; and most Miles+Points savvy folks already have those statuses (like Hilton HHonors Gold). Personally, the only "really worthwhile status" (that is not easily obtainable by other means) from FoundersCard is Caesars Diamond Status since that alone can pay for the membership (if optimized properly). Since the membership is $395, this is not something someone would likely "jump on" unless they needed Caesars Status and a "free" AA Platinum Challenge; but I figured it would be of use for some people.
I do receive referral bonuses for recommending people to FoundersCard, but it's almost 100% focused on Caesars Diamond Status and optimising the use of that status. The is mostly because I am quite passionate about helping people get the most out of the Total Rewards Loyalty Program.
I am not sure if I am going to sign-up for the AA Platinum Status, since most of my May to August travel has already been purchased. I posted about this offer yesterday, shortly after it was announced. (please note, this is my own blog that is being linked)
One other point to be aware of is that FoundersCard has an automatic yearly renewal; so if someone was inclined to join for the purpose of one or two benefits (for only one year) please make sure you cancel before the automatic renewal term. For some programs like Caesars Total Rewards, you can almost get 2-3 years out of one membership year if you time things correctly. But, another warning, there is no guarantee that a loyalty program will be renewed from year to year.
Last edited by baccarat_king; Jul 24, 2015 at 7:49 am Reason: Reopen as offer is back and baccarat_king adjust terms
Apr 22, 2015, 2:57 am
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I see FoundersCard costs $795 annually and incurs a $95 initiation fee these days. Your commissioned offer costs $395; does that include the initiation fee waiver? Some of us recall previous unfulfilled AAdvantage status offers from this provider, and may be wary.
appears to merely to include enrollment in the Platinum Challenge, duration upon completion until the last day of February 2016.
Beginning a Challenge on or after June 16 2015 means Platinum status through the last day of February 2017. That would cost $240 (AA was charging a reduced $180 for Challenges begun recently). From the Challenge Help Desk thread wiki:
ELITE STATUS & TRAVEL BENEFITS:
American Airlines: Receive Automatic AAdvantage® Platinum Status for a specified 90 day period and keep it through February 2016 by fulfilling enrollment and mileage criteria. *
American Airlines: Receive Automatic AAdvantage® Platinum Status for a specified 90 day period and keep it through February 2016 by fulfilling enrollment and mileage criteria. *
Beginning a Challenge on or after June 16 2015 means Platinum status through the last day of February 2017. That would cost $240 (AA was charging a reduced $180 for Challenges begun recently). From the Challenge Help Desk thread wiki:
Gold and Platinum challenges (there is usually no EXP challenge) can be flown to gain a "short cut" to status. To earn status you must register (and pay a fee $100-$140 for Gold, $200-240 for Platinum*) and fly to earn 5,000 or 10,000 elite-qualifying Points (not miles) in a three month period, using American Airlines, American Eagle, AmericanConnection®, British Airways, Finnair, Iberia, Japan Airlines, Qantas, US Airways and their eligible codeshare flights* and miles must be credited to AAdvantage. The four AA segment minimum required for regular status qualification does not apply to completing the challenge.
Class of service, status or other bonus miles are redeemable miles and thus do not count for the challenge. Class of service is a factor in calculating the points earned per mile flown: the points per mile charts for the various fare buckets on qualifying airlines are here.
*Jan-Jun $200, Jul - Dec $240 - presumably for the max nine months of status vs. the max of 20 months $240 of status. Occasionally, there are "sales" reductions.
Challenges begun before June 16 of a given year earn status for the remainder of that year and the first two months of the following year (8-14 months total); challenges begun on or after June 16 grant status for the remainder of that year, the following year, and the first two months of the year after (14-20 months total). Challenges can begin anytime (not previously the case) and can even be backdated up to two weeks (as of Nov 2013).
To sign up for a challenge, call AAdvantage Customer Service at +1-800-882-8880.
Class of service, status or other bonus miles are redeemable miles and thus do not count for the challenge. Class of service is a factor in calculating the points earned per mile flown: the points per mile charts for the various fare buckets on qualifying airlines are here.
*Jan-Jun $200, Jul - Dec $240 - presumably for the max nine months of status vs. the max of 20 months $240 of status. Occasionally, there are "sales" reductions.
Challenges begun before June 16 of a given year earn status for the remainder of that year and the first two months of the following year (8-14 months total); challenges begun on or after June 16 grant status for the remainder of that year, the following year, and the first two months of the year after (14-20 months total). Challenges can begin anytime (not previously the case) and can even be backdated up to two weeks (as of Nov 2013).
To sign up for a challenge, call AAdvantage Customer Service at +1-800-882-8880.
Apr 22, 2015, 3:45 am
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As a reminder, if you apply for Membership by April 30 we will waive your initiation fee ($95 value), and also extend a preferred annual rate of $395 (vs. our standard rate of $795).
I can personally attest to the fact that Caesars Diamond, Hilton HHonors Gold and CX Silver (Marco Polo) have been processed per the terms and conditions of the program.
I wasn't going to do this AA Platinum offer, but I'll do it; just so I can report back (a beta-test). I do warn people that they (FoundersCard) are VERY CLEAR about the limited terms of this AA program. This also includes when you must accept/enroll in this offer as well as the requirement for the Business Extras Program.
This is not something that is personally lucrative for me. It was a side benefit to helping people optimize their Caesars Total Rewards accounts (by upgrading to Diamond) as well as then parlaying that into Borgata Black Label status (and other potential casino status match programs).
I am far from an expert with regard to the AA Program (I spend most of my time in the SkyTeam world). This offer is 100% legitimate; and I do encourage people to contact me directly if they have any issues with getting the current stated offer or need further verification from the FoundersCard membership coordinator Hilary. (and I did it myself, back in June of 2014)
I do want to re-iterate, by itself I do not believe that joining FoundersCard for just AA Platinum for 3 months + a challenge is particularly cost-effective.
appears to merely to include enrollment in the Platinum Challenge, duration upon completion until the last day of February 2016.
Beginning a Challenge on or after June 16 2015 means Platinum status through the last day of February 2017. That would cost $240 (AA was charging a reduced $180 for Challenges begun recently).
Beginning a Challenge on or after June 16 2015 means Platinum status through the last day of February 2017. That would cost $240 (AA was charging a reduced $180 for Challenges begun recently).
Apr 22, 2015, 3:59 am
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My pleasure. I have been an active member of this community for a long time; and my intention would never be for anyone to get "ripped off." As I mentioned numerous times, my angle on this entire program was Caesars Diamond Status for those I help with regard to the Total Rewards Program. It's beyond the scope of this forum, but I would be happy to lay-out those benefits for people or they can refer to the Gaming Loyalty Programs Forum on FlyerTalk.
If this is helpful to people, that is great. If they use my referral code; that is also great. But, even if people did not use my code or enrolled by other means I am always happy to answer questions and share any knowledge that I have.
For added transparency, here are the entire terms and conditions for the AA Program, a cut+paste from the FoundersCard (AA enrollment) website.
If this is helpful to people, that is great. If they use my referral code; that is also great. But, even if people did not use my code or enrolled by other means I am always happy to answer questions and share any knowledge that I have.
For added transparency, here are the entire terms and conditions for the AA Program, a cut+paste from the FoundersCard (AA enrollment) website.
Terms and Conditions:
This is an exclusive offer only for FoundersCard members. FoundersCard member must be enrolled in the Business Extra program to be eligible for the AAdvantage Platinum Status Challenge. Members must enroll by 11:59pm CT on May 3, 2015 to participate. Travel must be completed between May 14 and August 14, 2015 on eligible airlines.* Members with AAdvantage Platinum or Executive Platinum status through February 29, 2016 are not eligible for this challenge.
Qualification for the extension of your elite status membership applies to elite qualifying points earned on eligible, purchased, published fare tickets on select airlines for travel between May 14, 2015, and August 14, 2015. *Select each airline name to learn more about qualifying fares for that carrier: American Airlines, American Eagle, American Connection, British Airways, Finnair, Iberia, Japan Airlines, Qantas, US Airways, US Airways Express, US Airways Shuttle. Bonus elite-qualifying points do not count toward your qualification for this offer. Upon reaching the required elite-qualifying points threshold, your AAdvantage elite status membership benefits will be extended through February 29, 2016. Your new membership credentials will be mailed to you within four to six weeks after qualification. You must re-qualify for AAdvantage elite-status membership annually. For details regarding the standard qualification levels, click here.
American Airlines reserves the right to change the AAdvantage program and its terms and conditions at any time without notice, and to end the AAdvantage program with six months’ notice. Any such changes may affect your ability to use the awards or mileage credits that you have accumulated. Unless specified, AAdvantage miles earned through this promotion/offer do not count towards elite-status qualification or AAdvantage Million MilerSM status. American Airlines is not responsible for products or services offered by other participating companies. For complete details about the AAdvantage program, visit aa.com/AAdvantage.
A portion of all travel booked on American Airlines may be American Eagle service. American Eagle service is operated by Compass Airlines, LLC, Envoy Air Inc., ExpressJet Airlines, Inc., Mesa Airlines, Inc., Republic Airline Inc., SkyWest Airlines, Inc., or Trans States Airlines, LLC.
American Airlines, American Eagle, AAdvantage, AAdvantage Million Miler and the Flight Symbol logo are marks of American Airlines, Inc.
oneworld is a registered trademark of oneworld Alliance, LLC.
This is an exclusive offer only for FoundersCard members. FoundersCard member must be enrolled in the Business Extra program to be eligible for the AAdvantage Platinum Status Challenge. Members must enroll by 11:59pm CT on May 3, 2015 to participate. Travel must be completed between May 14 and August 14, 2015 on eligible airlines.* Members with AAdvantage Platinum or Executive Platinum status through February 29, 2016 are not eligible for this challenge.
Qualification for the extension of your elite status membership applies to elite qualifying points earned on eligible, purchased, published fare tickets on select airlines for travel between May 14, 2015, and August 14, 2015. *Select each airline name to learn more about qualifying fares for that carrier: American Airlines, American Eagle, American Connection, British Airways, Finnair, Iberia, Japan Airlines, Qantas, US Airways, US Airways Express, US Airways Shuttle. Bonus elite-qualifying points do not count toward your qualification for this offer. Upon reaching the required elite-qualifying points threshold, your AAdvantage elite status membership benefits will be extended through February 29, 2016. Your new membership credentials will be mailed to you within four to six weeks after qualification. You must re-qualify for AAdvantage elite-status membership annually. For details regarding the standard qualification levels, click here.
American Airlines reserves the right to change the AAdvantage program and its terms and conditions at any time without notice, and to end the AAdvantage program with six months’ notice. Any such changes may affect your ability to use the awards or mileage credits that you have accumulated. Unless specified, AAdvantage miles earned through this promotion/offer do not count towards elite-status qualification or AAdvantage Million MilerSM status. American Airlines is not responsible for products or services offered by other participating companies. For complete details about the AAdvantage program, visit aa.com/AAdvantage.
A portion of all travel booked on American Airlines may be American Eagle service. American Eagle service is operated by Compass Airlines, LLC, Envoy Air Inc., ExpressJet Airlines, Inc., Mesa Airlines, Inc., Republic Airline Inc., SkyWest Airlines, Inc., or Trans States Airlines, LLC.
American Airlines, American Eagle, AAdvantage, AAdvantage Million Miler and the Flight Symbol logo are marks of American Airlines, Inc.
oneworld is a registered trademark of oneworld Alliance, LLC.
Apr 22, 2015, 9:12 am
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I think it all depends on whether there is value in any of the numerous programs they offer. It also depends on your current Miles+Points status with other programs. For example, I get Hilton Diamond status through another program, so Hilton Gold status is of no value to me. Someone else, might put a decent valuation on Hilton Gold status. I know for a fact, if you stay at Caesars Entertainment Group properties 10+ days a year and are not Total Rewards Diamond there is a lot of savings (just the resort fees alone).
In addition, you can add team members. So, potentially, you could allow 3 other people close to you access to the same benefits for $295.
My warnings on this :
- It's charged to YOUR CREDIT CARD on file.
- I believe the Team Members annually renew with your membership, so be careful about terms and conditions and renew requirements.
In addition, you can add team members. So, potentially, you could allow 3 other people close to you access to the same benefits for $295.
Add Team Members to your account
For an annual fee of $295 per person, you may now add up to 3 team members to your account. Each will receive full membership access as well as their own customized membership card.
Agree to the Terms and Conditions and a non-refundable annual charge of $295 per employee which will be made to your credit card on file.
For an annual fee of $295 per person, you may now add up to 3 team members to your account. Each will receive full membership access as well as their own customized membership card.
Agree to the Terms and Conditions and a non-refundable annual charge of $295 per employee which will be made to your credit card on file.
- It's charged to YOUR CREDIT CARD on file.
- I believe the Team Members annually renew with your membership, so be careful about terms and conditions and renew requirements.
Apr 22, 2015, 9:25 am
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Couple of thoughts on FC for yall:
AA recently changed to "quarterly offerings" on FC. I would say the page shows "check back soon for our next quarterly offering" for about half the year. Of course, as EXP, I don't get any value from the ongoing status challenge fee waivers they post these days. Still waiting for something interesting from them...
In general, FC offers are legit.
I've registered for and used:
- Hertz Five Star
- Avis First
- Hilton HHonors Gold
- Caesars Total Rewards Diamond
- $50 credit on HotelTonight account
- 6% off MSRP on Audi purchase (benefit now changed)
- 10% Vivid Seats purchases
However, I often find two issues with FC. First, their negotiated hotel rates are often not available when I check. Second, many of the status benefits do not roll over because I don't "re-qualify." Requires re-submission of request to renew.
AA recently changed to "quarterly offerings" on FC. I would say the page shows "check back soon for our next quarterly offering" for about half the year. Of course, as EXP, I don't get any value from the ongoing status challenge fee waivers they post these days. Still waiting for something interesting from them...
In general, FC offers are legit.
I've registered for and used:
- Hertz Five Star
- Avis First
- Hilton HHonors Gold
- Caesars Total Rewards Diamond
- $50 credit on HotelTonight account
- 6% off MSRP on Audi purchase (benefit now changed)
- 10% Vivid Seats purchases
However, I often find two issues with FC. First, their negotiated hotel rates are often not available when I check. Second, many of the status benefits do not roll over because I don't "re-qualify." Requires re-submission of request to renew.
Apr 22, 2015, 9:54 am
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I personally never count on negotiated hotel rates as a benefit of any program. When they work they are just a bonus, IMO.
May 1, 2015, 12:21 pm
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i am considering going this route to get platinum status temporarily. im not sure if i can fly and earn 10k points in that time frame. however, i have at least 8 trips booked on both AA and alaska metal, since this provides platinum status during the challenge, i should be able to change all of my seating to main cabin extra once the status kicks in on may 14. is that correct?
also question 2, if i were to go the route of challenge via AA instead, i do not get that status during the challenge.
also question 2, if i were to go the route of challenge via AA instead, i do not get that status during the challenge.
May 1, 2015, 3:10 pm
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This was definitely an issue with the accounts I mange with regard to Caesars. I believe, you pretty much have to stay on top of renewals yourself. I believe they process an upgrade, but the FC systems are in no way "truly' linked to the loyalty program. So, they need to process it again manually with the program. (a real pain)
I personally never count on negotiated hotel rates as a benefit of any program. When they work they are just a bonus, IMO.
I personally never count on negotiated hotel rates as a benefit of any program. When they work they are just a bonus, IMO.
I don't have any experience with the Caesars benefit, but I have maintained Hilton Honors Gold status through Founderscard for several years. A couple months ago I dropped down to Silver status and upon contacting Founderscard about the issue, I was elevated back to gold within a few days.
I think the free CX Silver status, which allows for CX lounge access when booked on a CX flight, is only for 1 year. I signed up for it, didn't maintain the required mileage and lost my status about a year and a half later. Does anyone know if this is still the case?
I also have the same VIP promocode for $395 per year, so if anyone is interested, you can PM me, as well.
May 1, 2015, 4:35 pm
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Pretty sure the offer is open to everyone through May 5th... I got it when I went to their website to take a look based on an article The Points Guy put out... I chose not to enroll as I have earned and maintain quite a few of the bennies offered the hard way, lol... From the e-mail they sent me after I requested additional info from their website: "We are accepting applications at the preferred annual rate of $395 (over 30% off our standard rate of $795) by using the promo code FCSPX15, valid through May 5, 2015."
May 1, 2015, 6:48 pm
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One of the issues that AA objected to last time this came up was the refferal component of this:
[From the linked-to blog above:
I assume from that custom link that that aspect of FC hasn't changed-- that one earns "points" for bringing recruiting new members?
If so, that's a problem.
I'd advise all to be very cautious here.
[From the linked-to blog above:
Join FoundersCard (use promo code: FCMICHAEL363 by the 30th of April 2015 for the special $395 rate)
If so, that's a problem.
I'd advise all to be very cautious here.
Last edited by JonNYC; May 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm
May 1, 2015, 7:29 pm
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From last time 'round:
Letter from Shook, Hardy & Bacon:
http://www.travelingbetter.com/showp...5&postcount=25
And:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14651583-post10.html
And:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16681120-post18.html
Thus, my concern.
That and the accrual of Founders "Points" that members get for recruiting more paying customers-- assuming that's still the case (and I definitely do not know.)
I have a ton more information from that time-- but CANNOT say with any certainty which of it is still relevant today.
Have sent enquiries to try and find out.
Letter from Shook, Hardy & Bacon:
http://www.travelingbetter.com/showp...5&postcount=25
I am an attorney who represents American Airlines, Inc. of 4333 Amon Carter Blvd., Ft. Worth, TX 76155. On behalf of American Airlines, I am sending this email to request removal of any reference to American Airlines, including the URLs located at [links to founderscard pages]
American Airlines has indicated that they have no relationship with you and that you are not authorized to sell, offer, or market any service or benefit that pertains to American Airlines’ AAdvantage program.
Your website particularly mentions that an enrollment in your membership would enable the member to receive a complimentary upgrade to AAdvantage Gold Status in American Airlines’ AAdvantage program. American Airlines does not offer such a benefit and has not made any arrangement with you to offer this benefit.
At best, your website appears to be misleading or fraudulent, and we request that the information be taken down immediately. If you have been authorized to provide any information regarding American Airlines on your website, please communicate the name(s) and contact information with whom the agreement was made and attach a copy of your contract/agreement.
Please let me know if you have any question regarding the requests. I may be reached at the contact information below.
I have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the American Airlines, its agent, or law.
The above information, made under penalty of perjury, in this email is accurate and that I am authorized to act on the American Airlines' behalf.
American Airlines has indicated that they have no relationship with you and that you are not authorized to sell, offer, or market any service or benefit that pertains to American Airlines’ AAdvantage program.
Your website particularly mentions that an enrollment in your membership would enable the member to receive a complimentary upgrade to AAdvantage Gold Status in American Airlines’ AAdvantage program. American Airlines does not offer such a benefit and has not made any arrangement with you to offer this benefit.
At best, your website appears to be misleading or fraudulent, and we request that the information be taken down immediately. If you have been authorized to provide any information regarding American Airlines on your website, please communicate the name(s) and contact information with whom the agreement was made and attach a copy of your contract/agreement.
Please let me know if you have any question regarding the requests. I may be reached at the contact information below.
I have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the American Airlines, its agent, or law.
The above information, made under penalty of perjury, in this email is accurate and that I am authorized to act on the American Airlines' behalf.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14651583-post10.html
And:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16681120-post18.html
Thus, my concern.
That and the accrual of Founders "Points" that members get for recruiting more paying customers-- assuming that's still the case (and I definitely do not know.)
I have a ton more information from that time-- but CANNOT say with any certainty which of it is still relevant today.
Have sent enquiries to try and find out.