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#1501
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: PHL
Programs: Marriott Lifetime PLT
Posts: 1,229
Toronto (or anywhere in NA) would be fine.
The bigger issue is whether HKG-YYZ via LAX is over the MPM (max permitted mileage) for that route. It is especially an issue since CX flies HKG-YYZ direct. You can look it up in KVS, but I would not worry too much about the details. Just call up the EXP desk and try to book it. If they say no, come back here and we can help you figure out why it may not be allowed. My guess is you will be fine though.
The bigger issue is whether HKG-YYZ via LAX is over the MPM (max permitted mileage) for that route. It is especially an issue since CX flies HKG-YYZ direct. You can look it up in KVS, but I would not worry too much about the details. Just call up the EXP desk and try to book it. If they say no, come back here and we can help you figure out why it may not be allowed. My guess is you will be fine though.
#1502
Join Date: May 2002
Location: EWR/JFK/LGA
Programs: DL Silver, AA, UA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 389
Chances of getting additional first class ticket with a SuperSaver award
I have been monitoring the AA web site on a daily basis, waiting for the availability of a first class ticket for NYC - DEL next November 2012. Today my date opened up and I was able to snag one ticket. Upon further review of this thread and talking to AA, it seems that AA initially only releases one first class seat. However, I am not traveling by myself and need a second seat. With all the experts out there, maybe someone can assist me and tell me if I am wasting my time waiting for a second seat to open up. Do they regularly sell out first class? Would it benefit me to subscribe to ExpertFlyer or should I just keep checking myself. Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated.
gnomie
gnomie
#1503
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,861
None of us knows whether AA will make another first class award seat available. It could happen today, just before the flight, or never. If I were you, I'd book a J award seat on the same flight and then upcabin for free (except for the extra AA miles and a possible increase in taxes, fees, etc.) should an F award seat become available. Expert Flyer is one excellent way to monitor this.
Are you aware that some AA partners fly to Delhi? Jet Airways (9W), Kingfisher (IT), British Airways (BA), Gulf Air (GF), Royal Jordanian (RJ), Etihad Airways (EY), Japan Airlines (JL), Cathay Pacific (CX), and Finn Air (AY) do. Qantas (QF) flies to Mumbai. You can mix-and-match carriers and routes to get there. Just remember that some of the routes taken by the above airlines, alone or in combination, will cost slightly more, possibly much more, AA miles to book. And you would have to pay substantial fuel surcharges if you fly on a BA-operated plane
Are you aware that some AA partners fly to Delhi? Jet Airways (9W), Kingfisher (IT), British Airways (BA), Gulf Air (GF), Royal Jordanian (RJ), Etihad Airways (EY), Japan Airlines (JL), Cathay Pacific (CX), and Finn Air (AY) do. Qantas (QF) flies to Mumbai. You can mix-and-match carriers and routes to get there. Just remember that some of the routes taken by the above airlines, alone or in combination, will cost slightly more, possibly much more, AA miles to book. And you would have to pay substantial fuel surcharges if you fly on a BA-operated plane
Last edited by Austinrunner; Dec 23, 2011 at 5:30 am
#1504
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: DFW, DAL
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, SWA A-list +
Posts: 1,007
Question for the group. I have a business class award dfw-mia-lhr and was trying to get the non-stop dfw-lhr in business or first. The agent said there were two business class seats on BA but I would have to pay a higher fuel surcharge (which I expected). I said, yep I am aware that BA has a fuel surcharge and AA doesn't. He replied "AA has a fuel surcharge. All airlines do. AA's not as large as others" Is that accurate?
#1505
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,598
The difference is that on an award ticket AA includes the fuel charge (commonly coded as YQ) in the award. BA does not. You will have to pay the YQ in addition to the taxes and the use of miles. AA just charges for the taxes.
Using miles to fly BA TATL IMO is a poor value.
Using miles to fly BA TATL IMO is a poor value.
#1506
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: AA LT PLT 3 MM+, BA (very) Blue, CO nobody
Posts: 2,640
I have been monitoring the AA web site on a daily basis, waiting for the availability of a first class ticket for NYC - DEL next November 2012. Today my date opened up and I was able to snag one ticket. Upon further review of this thread and talking to AA, it seems that AA initially only releases one first class seat. However, I am not traveling by myself and need a second seat. With all the experts out there, maybe someone can assist me and tell me if I am wasting my time waiting for a second seat to open up. Do they regularly sell out first class? Would it benefit me to subscribe to ExpertFlyer or should I just keep checking myself. Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated.
gnomie
gnomie
#1507
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 6,769
I have been monitoring the AA web site on a daily basis, waiting for the availability of a first class ticket for NYC - DEL next November 2012. Today my date opened up and I was able to snag one ticket. Upon further review of this thread and talking to AA, it seems that AA initially only releases one first class seat. However, I am not traveling by myself and need a second seat. With all the experts out there, maybe someone can assist me and tell me if I am wasting my time waiting for a second seat to open up. Do they regularly sell out first class? Would it benefit me to subscribe to ExpertFlyer or should I just keep checking myself. Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated.
gnomie
gnomie
#1508
Join Date: May 2002
Location: EWR/JFK/LGA
Programs: DL Silver, AA, UA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 389
Thanks for all the great advice
Thank you everybody for your suggestions - you guys are great - I tried getting a J seat but none are available for the date I need so I think I will set up an account with ExpertFlyer and hopefully I will be lucky and something will open up in the next 11 months!!
The reason I am keen on the AA flight - it is direct and arrives at a decent time and not in the middle of the night, this trip is for pleasure and I need to join a tour the following day and want to be as refreshed as possible.
gnomie
The reason I am keen on the AA flight - it is direct and arrives at a decent time and not in the middle of the night, this trip is for pleasure and I need to join a tour the following day and want to be as refreshed as possible.
gnomie
#1509
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 5
wondering about the reward tickets
I tried to redeem miles back to china next summer, but find there is not many reward tickets left.
Just ask,are the reward tickets for next summer all be booked or just not released?
Thanks everybody
Just ask,are the reward tickets for next summer all be booked or just not released?
Thanks everybody
#1510
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
#1512
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Placentia, CA 92870
Posts: 175
Why no Mileage Saver Award Econ Inventory LAX-LHR Dec 25-Dec 31
Looks like there are plenty of open seats. Last year had no problem securing 2 last minute LAX-LHR mileage saver econ seats on Dec 25. Been watching it for over a week. Then noticed absolutely nothing until Jan 9. Usually AA releases inventory when they know seats aren't going to sell.
Is this a new policy? Plenty of award seats going to JFK all next week, but again nothing from JFK to LHR.
Is this a new policy? Plenty of award seats going to JFK all next week, but again nothing from JFK to LHR.
#1513
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Agoura Hills, CA USA
Posts: 2,660
talked with friend at AA... "Z" and "U" awards were scaled back for the forseeable future.. No reason given.. but did say that West Coast mile saver award tickets will be difficult to procure ... quite obtuse answer but my friend is " in the know"....
#1514
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
Looks like there are plenty of open seats. Last year had no problem securing 2 last minute LAX-LHR mileage saver econ seats on Dec 25. Been watching it for over a week. Then noticed absolutely nothing until Jan 9. Usually AA releases inventory when they know seats aren't going to sell.
Is this a new policy? Plenty of award seats going to JFK all next week, but again nothing from JFK to LHR.
Is this a new policy? Plenty of award seats going to JFK all next week, but again nothing from JFK to LHR.
The relative lack of attention to this issue on FT seems to indicate that AA can easily get away with these kind of customer-unfriendly shenanigans with very little scrutiny and barely a whimper from even those who are pretty well focused on developments in the airline "loyalty" program(s).
With mileage ticket inventory release and related pricing practices like this, the idea of accumulating AA miles becomes a lot less attractive.
#1515
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,861
Are you always this grumpy on Christmas Day? Not only is AA at fault, but every Flyertalk member is guilty.
Last edited by Austinrunner; Dec 25, 2011 at 1:40 pm