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AA Daily LAX-HND Service Feb 2016 w/ 787-8, applies DFW-HND

AA Daily LAX-HND Service Feb 2016 w/ 787-8, applies DFW-HND

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AA Begin Daily 787-8 LAX-HND Service 11 Feb 2016, DFW-HND on application

FORT WORTH, Texas, Nov. 4, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- American Airlines will offer customers daily, year-round, nonstop service to Tokyo's Haneda Airport (HND) from its trans-Pacific gateway at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) beginning Feb. 11, 2016. Customers can book travel on the new route starting Sunday, Nov. 8. American recently secured takeoff and landing time slots at Haneda Airport from the Japanese aviation authorities, which will allow the commencement of the flight.

The new service will operate on the following daily schedule (all times local):

LAX-HND
AA27
Departs LAX at 6 p.m.
Arrives at HND at 11 p.m. the following day

HND-LAX
AA26
Departs HND at 1:30 a.m.
Arrives at LAX at 6:20 p.m. the previous day

Link
Link to Dallas Morning News article on DFW-HND 23 Jun 2016 (comparing DFW vs. MSP for Haneda service)

Link to Dallas a Morning News Aviation Blog article on DFW-HND application, 4 Apr 2016

Please see this archived thread for posts relating to AA statement of intent and delays.

Previously (as posted by Exec_Plat), wandering_fred and ashill:

DOT Docket is DOT-OST-2010-0018
AA's application to fly LAX-HND (and motion to transfer DL's authority to fly SEA-LAX) is document DOT-OST-2010-0018-0384

On June 14, 2015, the DOT ruled that Delta would retain the HND slot for use on SEA-HND with dormancy conditions that require Delta to operate the flight every day of the year.

On June 17, 2015, Delta notified the DOT in a letter that it would "determined that it is not commercially feasible to operate the slots allocated to Delta for Seattle-Haneda service on a consistent daily basis year-round". The last Delta SEA-HND flight will operate on September 30, 2015. Delta will return the slots to the DOT on October 1, 2015, at which point the slots will automatically revert to American.

American service on LAX-HND could begin (err rather could have begun) as early as October 1, 2015.

While DOT has granted rights to AA, the actual time slots in which AA can arrive and depart HND are subject to negotiation with HND and other carriers.

- It is not clear that DL had slots every day of the year, and in fact DL may have been required to surrender the slots on August 15, 2015.
- AA needs to secure daily slots for HND, however the annual winter 2015 (W15) slot conference was on June 23, 2015, only a few days after DL notified DOT they would surrender the route.
- It is unknown when AA will acquire new time slots. Purportedly the IATA slot conference for S15 will be 10-12 November. Going by the published calendar Oct 8 begins this activity: https://www.iata.org/events/Document...activities.pdf
-There may be some motion with daytime slots (Aviationweek):
The U.S. Transportation Department (DOT) recently briefed U.S. carriers on the Japanese proposal, several people familiar with the matter told Aviation Daily. As it is currently understood, the proposal would shift some of the slots available to U.S. carriers to daytime hours. It may also include one additional slot pair, which would likely not be for a daily flight
- Per the published guidelines, the SAL Deadline is October 29, 2015, at which time the airport shall have made their initial decision on all slots to be allocated for the coming season. [One assumes horsetrading then begins.]
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Old Sep 23, 16, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by aztimm View Post
Anyone know if 1:50 is enough time to connect from a JL flight from within Asia (but not Japan) to this AA flight?
I'd assume they are in the same terminal.

I've been to NRT several times, but haven't yet been to HND. I've heard that HND is pretty small...
I assume it would entail a security screen, like NRT, then on to gate...lounge if time permits
More than plenty of time. Same flow as in Narita, transit security and on to the lounge.
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Old Sep 23, 16, 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by aztimm View Post
Anyone know if 1:50 is enough time to connect from a JL flight from within Asia (but not Japan) to this AA flight?
I'd assume they are in the same terminal.

I've been to NRT several times, but haven't yet been to HND. I've heard that HND is pretty small...
I assume it would entail a security screen, like NRT, then on to gate...lounge if time permits
Yes assuming your arrival flight is close to on time.

Personally I would always prefer more time than that though.
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Old Nov 5, 16, 7:59 pm
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LAX-HND switches from the 788 to a 772 beginning on 2/16/17.
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Old Nov 5, 16, 10:31 pm
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Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer View Post
LAX-HND switches from the 788 to a 772 beginning on 2/16/17.
Any idea when the 772 will be retrofitted?
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Old Nov 6, 16, 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer View Post
LAX-HND switches from the 788 to a 772 beginning on 2/16/17.

We have a reservation LAX-HND 02/15/17 - 02/20/17, so we are going to get each aircraft. Disappointed to not have the 788 on the return but maybe we'll have the newer 772 retrofit.
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Old Nov 6, 16, 7:53 am
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It appears the switch to the 772 on this route in February will be on a retrofitted plane.
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Old Nov 6, 16, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Longboater View Post
It appears the switch to the 772 on this route in February will be on a retrofitted plane.
It is. Also of note, LAX-NRT (169/170) is switching to a retrofitted 772 on 11/29/16.
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Old Dec 5, 16, 7:22 pm
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What do SWU chances look like midweek on the HND-LAX flights? I am an EXP looking for two seats on a Tuesday.
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Mine cleared both directions in March about a week out for mid-week flights
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