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Old Nov 21, 2016, 8:48 pm
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American Airlines Carry-On Baggage Limits
Strict enforcement directive issued 28 August 2015)
American Airlines Carry-on baggage (link)

Q. Why is AA suddenly becoming so picky about sizing bags?

A. AA formulates carry on baggage policy that meets FAA criteria as well as airline established criteria; these are submitted to the FAA and if approved become the airline's policy. If the airline repeatedly violated their FAA-approved policy, they can be held accountable by the FAA. Recently, during an FAA audit, AA was found to be violating its FAA-approved carry on policy.

What can I carry on?

You can bring 1 carry-on bag and 1 personal item per person (exception: infants. Exception: some regional aircraft have insufficient bin space for otherwise "legal" bags, so carry-on bags might be limited, or even prohibited. If the latter, they will usually be "valet checked" airside and delivered at the jetway before you enter the gate area.

Carry-on bag

Your carry-on bag should be:
  • Up to 45 inches (22 x 14 x 9 in or 115 centimeters (23 x 36 x 56 cm) including handles and wheels
  • Able to fit comfortably into the sizer we’ve provided at the airport
  • Please note, you’ll also need to be able to lift your bag into the overhead bin
You can travel with horizontal rolling and/or hanging garment bags as your carry-on bag if:
  • They fit comfortably in the bag sizer
  • They measure up to 22" length x 14" width x 9" height or 115cm (56 x 36 x 23 cm)
You can also carry on a soft-sided garment bag of up to 51in or 130cm (length + width + height)

Personal item

Your personal item must be smaller than your carry-on, able to fit under the seat in front of you and can include:
  • A purse
  • A briefcase
  • A laptop bag
  • Similar items such as a tote
Additional allowed items

You can also bring:
  • Outerwear such as coats, wraps and hats
  • A book or newspaper
  • A small bag of food to eat on the flight
  • An approved safety seat for a lap or ticketed child
  • A pillow or blanket
  • An umbrella stroller for a lap or ticketed child
  • A diaper bag for a lap or ticketed child
  • Duty free items
  • Assistive devices (e.g. wheelchairs, walkers, portable oxygen concentrators, CPAP machines etc.)
  • Breast pump
Liquids and restricted items

TSA allows certain duty-free liquids through security in your carry-on bag if they’re properly packaged in a security tamper-evident bag (STEB). If you’re traveling with liquids or are unsure about any item, please contact the TSA.

For more, e.g. special items, etc. please use link
Originally Posted by alien
22 x 14 x 10

So today I took measurements of the sizer at my airport... There is obviously some slippage and subjectivity in the eye of (s)he who must be obeyed due to the open ended 1/4" lines outlining the baggage dimensions placed either horizontally or vertically. But, strictly speaking, the outside edge of the lines are 22' and 14". The depth is a definitive full 10 inches from the back board to the inner side of the metal tube running low laterally across the front of the sizer. This is the current sizer that I measured:


22 x 14 x 10

...We are given a 22 x 14 x 9 but there is some room to maneuver. We have 22" and 14" with a very subjective but limited amount of slippage. And there is definitely 10" of depth.

The subjectivity would be greatly reduced if the sizers were constructed, as Delta's, to form a full sided box.

Those on the margin should really test their bags in advance in all of the different positions to see which allows the most favorable view of its size if required to use the sizer at the gate.
See


AA e-mail to customer re: carry on baggage

and


Comparison of USA airlines carry-on limits Apr '25 by Outdoor Gear Lab

and


Airline carry on variances and the new IATA recommended standard

and


New IATA recommended standard vs. current common


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Old Jun 22, 2017, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by ryan182
Ehh no. There's a very big difference between noticing a large carry-on and enforcing the rules and making every passenger size their bag thus slowing the boarding process and delaying the flight. Sounds like this GA is the one who needs counselling and if s/he lacks the sense to eyeball bags and only pull out those that are on the bubble or clearly too large vs making everyone size their bag they should be put in a more menial job that matches their cognitive abilities.
I strongly disagree that having everybody size their bag wastes any time.
Actually I think it would save time.

What is a waste of time is people arguing with the GA or people forcing their bag in the sizer when obviously it does not fit.

Putting the bag in the sizer (if it fits) takes merely 10 seconds?

The bottle neck in the boarding process are the pax taking forever to take their seats or store their bags in the overhead bin, can anybody argue that?
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by carlosdca

What is a waste of time is people arguing with the GA or people forcing their bag in the sizer when obviously it does not fit.

Putting the bag in the sizer (if it fits) takes merely 10 seconds?

Your points are true, but subjectivity causes the gray area in between.

What if my bag (which normally takes 10 seconds to fit in) is a little bit stuffed on a particular trip, and I have to press it into the sizer harder than usual. In my mind, it still fits, but I simply had to press it down harder. But in the GA's mind, it did not fit. He sees me pressing down and immediately bans me to luggage check, thinking I am "forcing it."

It's subjective. I call it fitting it in and the employee calls it forcing. The subjectivity of it all causes delays.
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by carlosdca
The bottle neck in the boarding process are the pax taking forever to take their seats or store their bags in the overhead bin, can anybody argue that?
Nope not my example. Every passenger was having to put their bag into the sizer. You should be able to accurately guesstimate as *gate agent* what is borderline and needs to go to sizer, not just a random sweep.

This moron caused a 35 minute delay in boarding.
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Old Jun 23, 2017, 3:52 pm
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Was chased down the jet bridge today for carrying my companions bag for them. When the gate agent told me I was only allowed two bags (I had 3) I mentioned I was carrying my companions bag because who was standing right next to me. He said that it was recorded on the camera and before I walked through the doors my companion had to be holding the bag.

What do people do in situations where their companion cannot carry a bag (wheel chair, crutches, sling, to old, etc,)? Or is this a made up policy by an over eager gate agent?
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Old Jun 23, 2017, 11:02 pm
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Originally Posted by longtimereader firstimeposter
Was chased down the jet bridge today for carrying my companions bag for them. When the gate agent told me I was only allowed two bags (I had 3) I mentioned I was carrying my companions bag because who was standing right next to me. He said that it was recorded on the camera and before I walked through the doors my companion had to be holding the bag.

What do people do in situations where their companion cannot carry a bag (wheel chair, crutches, sling, to old, etc,)? Or is this a made up policy by an over eager gate agent?
I call BS.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 12:02 am
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I carry three bags (roller + laptop, and a garment bag) while my gf carries one all the time. They ask if we're together and count four bags and that's the end of it.

I have issues with "you squeezed it into the sizer, you need to check your bag" on occasion -- which is super annoying, especially since AA specifically says they won't insure what's in that carry-on AFAIK -- and I know it'll fit, but I don't have "you can't carry three bags" as an issue (unless I'm by myself, obviously).
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by dp4m
I carry three bags (roller + laptop, and a garment bag) while my gf carries one all the time. They ask if we're together and count four bags and that's the end of it.

I have issues with "you squeezed it into the sizer, you need to check your bag" on occasion -- which is super annoying, especially since AA specifically says they won't insure what's in that carry-on AFAIK -- and I know it'll fit, but I don't have "you can't carry three bags" as an issue (unless I'm by myself, obviously).
if you have to squeeze it in , then it isn't fitting, so quite correct that it requires checking in
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 12:16 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
if you have to squeeze it in , then it isn't fitting, so quite correct that it requires checking in
Not to get into a lengthy debate, but the sizers absolutely do not match the overhead baggage space any longer in many cases, especially with the refits. The 737 refits made it worse and my bag fits in all cases, except when the expander is used, no matter how "full" it looks.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by dp4m
Not to get into a lengthy debate, but the sizers absolutely do not match the overhead baggage space any longer in many cases, especially with the refits. The 737 refits made it worse and my bag fits in all cases, except when the expander is used, no matter how "full" it looks.
It doesn't matter whether it will fit in the overhead bins, large oversize items can fit in it ; what matters is whether the bag meets the individual bag limit

If it doesn't fit in the sizer without effort to get it in, it is too large
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
It doesn't matter whether it will fit in the overhead bins, large oversize items can fit in it ; what matters is whether the bag meets the individual bag limit

If it doesn't fit in the sizer without effort to get it in, it is too large
The real discussion should be around why the sizers are as small as they are now
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by scnzzz
The real discussion should be around why the sizers are as small as they are now
Little known fact: more than one piece of luggage can fit into an overhead bin if the luggage is small enough. If your luggage is so large that it takes up the entire bin, others won't be able to use the bin. This is true even though your luggage fits in the bin.
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If you are one of the rare readers of this thread who is unsure about your carry on sizing, check out this forum

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-products-639/
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by SpaceCoastBill
I call BS.
Not sure what you're calling BS on... anything related to AA's customer service is unsurprising to me at this point.

My question was more around if it was a hard and fast rule somewhere that two per person has to be met when getting onto the plane when traveling with multiple people. If yes, when someone isn't able to carry the bag themselves what's the policy in that situation.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by longtimereader firstimeposter
Not sure what you're calling BS on... anything related to AA's customer service is unsurprising to me at this point.

My question was more around if it was a hard and fast rule somewhere that two per person has to be met when getting onto the plane when traveling with multiple people. If yes, when someone isn't able to carry the bag themselves what's the policy in that situation.
On the "you cannot carry more than 2 items" garbage. Little old lady has a hard time and you cannot help her with her bags? Guy with a cane and you want to help him but nooooo. Thats BS. I liked the part about the cameras. Thats a stupid claim as well.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by richarddd
Little known fact: more than one piece of luggage can fit into an overhead bin if the luggage is small enough. If your luggage is so large that it takes up the entire bin, others won't be able to use the bin. This is true even though your luggage fits in the bin.
True with regard to length and width. I think most folks have trouble with the unrealistic restriction on luggage thickness as it pertains to pretty much any mainline aircraft. For me, a sizer that ensures that luggage fits end-in without having to compress it unreasonably, that's the target.

Don't get me started on musical instruments. A guitar takes up an entire bin worth of roll-ons.
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