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FAQ: Baggage / Luggage Rules, Allowance, Through-check on AA & Other Airlines

Old Jun 10, 2015, 2:33 pm
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How much am I allowed?

Can I check it through?

Im on award travel...

How long can my connection be to through check? Etc.


Link to American Airlines' policy on through checking baggage as of 1 Sep 2016.

Notice that different protocols are followed in IROPS / OSO conditions.

Code:
Through Checked Baggage Policy (AA, 1 Sep 2016)

To align American Airlines (AA) with our oneworld partners
and to reduce baggage mishandlings, we will now only through
check customers and baggage when all the tickets are in the same PNR.

Through check-in will be honored between the following carriers only:
  • Code:
    American Airlines and American Eagle
  • Code:
    oneworld airlines and affiliates


Code:
What if I have separate tickets in the same PNR for itineraries
with American to a non-oneworld carrier?

Our policy on American to non-oneworld airline tickets has not changed.
We will not through check customers or bags even if the tickets are in
the same PNR.

What would be the bag charges if the customer holds separate tickets
in separate PNRs?

American will not through check a customer’s bag, regardless if it is
a oneworld carrier. The customer will need to collect their bag at
the final destination on the AA ticket. They will pay for the bag on the
second ticket when they recheck it. This may involve exiting the secure
area, then claiming and re-checking the bags. The Minimum Connecting
Time (MCT) will usually not be sufficient when the customer has separate
tickets issued for each airline.

International flights will usually require claiming bags, clearing
customs and rechecking bags on another carrier to be continued to
their next destination.

What will customers be charged if we can through check the bag?

The charges would depend on what tickets the customer holds in the same PNR.

Do JetBlue (B6) and our other codeshare/interline partners count as affiliate airlines?

No, the oneworld affiliate airlines are generally the regional partners
of the other oneworld carriers. If a customer held an B6 ticket and an
AA ticket in the same PNR we would not through check the bag. They
would need to reclaim then recheck their bag with B6.
EXCEPTION: "Customers traveling on separate tickets where one
segment is an award ticket and another has been purchased can
through-check bags. Travel must be on American or oneworld partners,
and not on partners outside the oneworld alliance (like Etihad or Air
Tahiti Nui). Tickets much be in the same reservation."
-Gary Leff, Boarding Area

Link to FT thread: Separate PNR: oneworld AA, protection, through baggage issues as of 2016

Q. Can I check my baggage through?

YES: Due to new rules instituted by oneworld in June, and by AA 1 September of 2016, baggage between the fifteen oneworld airlines on the same PNR are required be through-checked.

NO: However, if the trip is booked ticketed separately, or with non-one world partners, through checking by AA will not occur; baggage will have to be recovered at baggage carousels landside and rechecked at the next operating airline's counter (depending on your initial operating carrier's policies about through-checking on separate booking).

On U.S.A. domestic or regional travel, you will have to retrieve your baggage and re-check the following day if your stop is overnight, or recheck, if your connection is 12 hours or longer. On international travel with overnight connections under the same PNR, you often will be able to through check (as long as the new ticket conditions are met).

If you are flying AA and a non-oneworld partner on separate PNR / tickets, you will have to recover and recheck baggage, particularly on separate PNRs. If there is no interline agreement between the airlines (e.g. AA and Spirit, Southwest, etc.) you will certainly be required to do so.

See Multi-Reservation Through-Checking across oneworld no longer required

See Australian Business Traveller article. (Link)

Q. If I'm connecting using AA on a single PNR but have a stopover at my connecting airport, can I check through or recheck?

AA will generally not through check bags or allow you to recheck bags if your layover exceeds twelve hours.

Q. Which carrier's rules apply?

Note: Checked baggage allowances may vary by status, class of service, origin or/and destination, type of baggage. Some AA affiliated credit cards allow one free checked bag on domestic travel - some up to four or eight passengers on the same itinerary.

A. It depends. On separate PNRs AA will collect baggage fees due, and the other airlines will collect what is due under their baggage policies.

On through-checked baggage, USDOT regulations require the marketing carrier of the initial segment baggage rules apply to USA originating (or ending, iirc) flights. E.g. flying QF as an AA codeshare, or QF connecting from AA marketed by AA, AA rules would apply. These take precedent of IATA rules if travel begins (or ends) in the USA.

For IATA governed international itineraries, baggage rules of the Most Significant / Prevailing Carrier apply:

In compliance with the new baggage policy issued by the International Air Transport Association (IATA), free baggage allowance and extra baggage charges for tickets issued on or after 1 April 2011 which involve one or more flights provided by other airlines will be based on a new method. If your journey includes connecting flights with more than one airline, the baggage allowances and fees of the airline that operates the longer leg of the itinerary (MDC) will apply throughout the itinerary. For example, if you fly a transpacific leg with one carrier and a domestic leg with another, the baggage allowances and fees of the carrier that operated the transpacific leg would apply to the whole journey, regardless of which carrier issued the ticket. (Language from Cathay Pacific.)

The Most Significant Marketing Carrier (MSC) is:
  • For travel between IATA areas: The first carrier flying in between two of the IATA areas
  • For travel between IATA sub areas: The first carrier flying in between the sub areas
  • For travel within an IATA sub area: The first carrier crossing an international border


IATA divides Areas and sub-areas. For example:

Area: North America, Central and South America, Hawaii
Subareas:
  • Canada, Mexico
  • Caribbean
  • Central America
  • South America

Area: Europe, Middle East
Subareas:
  • Europe
  • Middle East
  • Africa


Area: Asia, Guam, Southwest Pacific
Subareas:
  1. Japan, Korea
  2. Southeast Asia
  3. South Asian Subcontinent / India
  4. Southwest Pacific
Q. Can I through check my baggage if I have an overnight stop?

That will probably depend on your first operating carrier. Some carriers have no problem with through checking bags if you're stopping overnight, e.g. Qatar Airways with an overnight in DOH, but AA uses a maximum of under 12 hours to determine whether you can through check or must recover bags on overnight stops. (However, ground agents may vary.)

Q. What are my AA and oneworld baggage allowances with [_______] status?

See here on aa.com for updates

A. Complimentary bags
In some cases, you won't have to pay the baggage fees for up to three 23 kg / 50 lb bags (32 kg / 70 lb some premium passengers). Find out if this applies to you. EXPs could have to three checked 32 kg / 70 lb bags.

1st checked bag is complimentary for:
  • Eligible AAdvantage® Aviator™ and Citi® / AAdvantage® cardmembers (on domestic American Airlines operated flights)
  • AAdvantage Gold
  • oneworld Ruby
  • Alaska MVP members


1st and 2nd checked bags are complimentary for:
  • Platinum
  • oneworld Sapphire members
  • Alaska Airlines MVP Gold (AS is a oneworld member now)
  • Confirmed Business Class customers*


2nd and 3rd checked bags are complimentary for:
  • Confirmed First Class customers on 3-cabin aircraft*
  • AAdvantage Executive Platinum
  • oneworld Emerald, including Alaska Airlines MVP Gold 75K
  • Active U.S. military and/or dependents with ID traveling on orders (1st - 5th bags free of charge)
  • Active U.S. military with ID on personal travel


Executive Platinum / oneworld Emerald are allowed one more checked bag:

*See AA reducing some checked baggage allowance tickets pchs on / after 29 Mar 2016

Note: on through baggage: oneworld policy no longer entitles checking baggage through when using oneworld flights when connecting on separetily ticketed segments. Only AA and MH will still through-check baggage with separate PNRS.

Q. Do I have extended baggage allowance as AAdvantage Executive Platinum / oneworld Emerald? (Yes, as of 1 Feb 2013

A. All oneworld Emerald customers, including AAdvantage Executive Platinums, will be entitled to an extra bag.

See:Customer Planning Advisory
Subject . . . APS 13002 – Extra bag for oneworld Emerald

Date . . . . . . Effective: February 1st, 2013
Issued . . . . .January 31st, 2013

Overview . . .Extra bag for oneworld Emerald
. . . . . . . . . . To improve the travel experience for our top tier customers
. . . . . . . . . . we are pleased to offer all oneworld Emerald members
. . . . . . . . . . one extra bag in addition to their free allowance.

Detail. . . . . All oneworld Emerald customers, including AAdvantage
. . . . . . . . . . Executive Platinums, will be entitled to an extra bag.

. . . . . . . . . . Emeralds will have the following allowance:
. . . . . . . . . . First/Business 4 free pieces up to 70lbs (32kgs)
. . . . . . . . . . Main Cabin 3 free pieces up to 70lbs (32kgs)
. . . . . . . . . . This applies to both international and domestic travel
. . . . . . . . . . on/after 1st February.

Processing . Please override the excess baggage mask using the OT
. . . . . . . . . . code using the explanation Emerald. Automation for this
. . . . . . . . . . change will be in place later in the year.

<redacted issuing personnel>

Reference . . .APS13002


Q. How many bags can I check?

A. Check up to 10 bags if your trip is:
  • Domestic
  • Transatlantic
  • Transpacific


Check up to 5 bags if you’re traveling to / through / from:
  • Mexico / Caribbean / Central America*See footnote
  • South America*See footnote


*There are seasonal and year-round baggage embargoes and restrictions


Q. Can I "split" my allowance? E.g. can I split a 23 kg / 50 lb per bag allowance and check two bags weighing up to 23 kg / 50 lb together?

A. No. Per bag weight maxima or number of bags allowed can not be shared or split.

Q. What are my Overweight Baggage Charges?

A. aa.com: Oversize and overweight baggage

We’re pleased to say that your bag can weigh up to 70lbs./32kgs at no extra cost if you are:
  • First Class
  • Business Class
  • Executive Platinum
  • oneworld Emerald

If you are checking more than 3 bags charges will apply.*

Additionally:

Link to checked baggage policy

Link to oversized and overweight baggage policy AA has a "hard limit" of not accepting any baggage that exceeds 45 kg / 100 lb for check-in.


Q. Must I recover and re-check my bags arriving from another country?

A. If you are arriving in the U.S.A. from an international airport, it will depend:

1) If you check in at airports like AUH, DUB, YVR etc. where you process USCBP immigration and customs prior to boarding, your flight will arrive in the U.S. as a domestic flight. Your bag can be checked through (assuming other conditions mentioned above are met), you will be able to proceed to your next flight airside.

2) If you are otherwise arriving from an international airport, you will generally be required to pass USCBP immigration, recover your baggage at the indicated carousel and process through Customs. As you depart the Customs hall, you can re-check your baggage for your continuing flights prior to departing the airside part of arrivals. You will generally have to produce a valid boarding pass and pass through TSA Security to return airside to continue your travel.

3) DFW, MIA (only) in the USA allow through ("ITI") checking for certain passengers arriving internationally and departing on another international flight. This will result in an "ITI" (International to International) check with ITI sticker on your boarding pass, and baggage will not have to be collected and rechecked. ITI passengers may still be required to pass through immigration, exit through customs gate and pass back through security. See this FT thread.


Helpful resource links:

Link to American Airlines' policy on through checking baggage as of 1 Sep 2016. Notice that different protocols are followed in IROPS / OSO conditions.

AA: American Airlines a Checked baggage policy (includes infant assistive and medical devices, mobility devices, pets and specialty sports items).

See No More Multi-Reservation Through-Checking across oneworld

See Change to through-checking Oct 2014 (interlining) baggage on separate tickets

oneworld: oneworld Extra baggage allowance (status / class of service)

Please see FT: EXP / Emerald extended baggage / luggage allowance 1 FEB 2013 (master thread) if you are AA Executive Platinum / oneworld Emerald.


Link to archived thread with older posts.

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FAQ: Baggage / Luggage Rules, Allowance, Through-check on AA & Other Airlines

Old Jan 12, 2023, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by crypticro
Well my confirmation shows K which is Economy. BA didn't care much.
I saw that - hence my comment. More importantly - did you have a ticket reissue? Was the very first one from AA.COM booking? As far as I can recall, I've always seen baggage allowance info on the first one for sure - even award bookings. (But I have not have one with a BA segment since before COVID...)

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Old Jan 12, 2023, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by crypticro
I never booked a basic economy fare. I don't think I have ever done that ever.

This is the latest response from AA:
Originally Posted by guv1976
Then you have your answer.
From the snippets of conversation you are showing, it seems as though AA has acknowledged that you bought a regular economy fare, and thus are entitled to a baggage allowance. To the extent that they are recommending that you pay for the bag and then "seek reimbursement," it would be good to have them confirm in writing that it's AA you should be seeking reimbursement from after the fact. I think we all know that to be true from a legal perspective, but if you have their own (Twitter?) people confirm that in writing it might make the reimbursement process go more smoothly after your trip. Good luck!
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Old Jan 12, 2023, 5:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ZenFlyer
From the snippets of conversation you are showing, it seems as though AA has acknowledged that you bought a regular economy fare, and thus are entitled to a baggage allowance. To the extent that they are recommending that you pay for the bag and then "seek reimbursement," it would be good to have them confirm in writing that it's AA you should be seeking reimbursement from after the fact. I think we all know that to be true from a legal perspective, but if you have their own (Twitter?) people confirm that in writing it might make the reimbursement process go more smoothly after your trip. Good luck!
Yeah.... AA reimbursing a BA charge (or compelling them to) seems quite unlikely to me. YMMV
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Old Jan 12, 2023, 5:25 pm
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AA Basic Economy books into B for AA operated flights and any booking class for AA*BA/IB/AY/JL flights. If AA107 books into K, this is not a BE fare.

If you really want to find it out, go to AA receipts online and look for the “fare basis”, if the second to last alphabet is B/Z, it’s a basic economy fare, otherwise it’s not.

https://www.aa.com/your-receipts/home
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Old Jan 12, 2023, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Madison Guy
Yeah.... AA reimbursing a BA charge (or compelling them to) seems quite unlikely to me. YMMV
FWIW AA reimbursed my baggage fees when Iberia’s IT system kept recognizing me as Ruby instead of Emerald.
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Old Jan 12, 2023, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by crypticro
I booked a flight on AA in Economy from ZRH to JFK via LHR. The leg ZRH-LHR is operated by British Airways, LHR-JFK by American Airlines.
As I wanted to check my bulk bag (road bike) I called BA to submit the exact measurement of the bike case but they told me I have a basic economy fare which doesn't allow me to check a bag and I will have to pay extra for bags. Also the online check-in doesn't allow me to check any bags:


AA says my ticket was issued in Economy and I have an allowance of 2 bags on BA (Emerald) and also the confirmation looks this way:



AA and BA kind of both are saying it's the other ones fault. But if you lure someone into paying a bag although the ticket already includes bags wouldn't that be fraud?
Any recommendations here?
Sounds like you already reached out to AA and they provided course of action. They are the party responsible as they sold the ticket and onus was on them to communicate to passenger and other carriers the baggage allowance.

Originally Posted by guv1976
Here's the applicable U.S. regulation:
"(c) On all e-ticket confirmations for air transportation within, to or from the United States, including the summary page at the completion of an online purchase and a post-purchase email confirmation, a U.S. carrier, a foreign air carrier, an agent of either, or a ticket agent that advertises or sells air transportation in the United States must include information regarding the passenger's free baggage allowance and/or the applicable fee for a carry-on bag and the first and second checked bag. Carriers must provide this information in text form in the e-ticket confirmation. Agents may provide this information in text form in the e-ticket confirmations or through a hyperlink to the specific location on airline websites or their own website where this information is displayed. The fee information provided for a carry-on bag and the first and second checked bag must be expressed as specific charges taking into account any factors (e.g., frequent flyer status, early purchase, and so forth) that affect those charges."

In any event, do you recall whether you purchased a Basic Economy fare or a regular Economy fare?
Specific regulation above is from 14 CFR §399.85

Originally Posted by Madison Guy
Yeah.... AA reimbursing a BA charge (or compelling them to) seems quite unlikely to me. YMMV
AA is going to have to due to regulation above.
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Old Jan 12, 2023, 11:54 pm
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Originally Posted by crypticro
This is the latest response from AA:
Thanks for your patience with us. We've pulled out every trick in the book, but this one seems to have us stumped. We aren't able to get this baggage allowance reflected on your new ticket. Therefore, your next best bet, would be to pay for the luggage, and submit your receipt for reimbursement, after travel. We know this isn't ideal, but we're unable to offer any alternatives, at this time.
Can I ask who (within AA) you asked for help, how you contacted them and from whom you got this response, please? I have a similar issue and have struggled to find anyway of getting help from AA.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 12:44 am
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BA sell a ‘basic’ hand baggage only option in most of their economy fare buckets so that could be a complicating factor. They don’t just have one fare bucket for ‘basic’ economy with no luggage.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 1:29 am
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This is an IT glitch that's been around for ages and has happened to me even on premium cabin fares - see this thread from 2017 .
I would not trust the (outsourced dnata) agents at ZRH to recognize this as such, so be prepared to pay the fee and ask AA for reimbursement later.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 8:01 am
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I’d just try your luck at the airport and if you have to pay then submit a refund request.

In the meantime, try this link here: https://www.finnair.com/gb-en/custom...ticket-receipt

Input your BA PNR and it will email you a receipt with a load of details including baggage allowance. Just because it doesn’t say you have an allowance doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t (that depends on what type of fare you actually bought). But it might give you an indication of whether you will need to argue your case at check in.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by gcuk
BA sell a ‘basic’ hand baggage only option in most of their economy fare buckets so that could be a complicating factor. They don’t just have one fare bucket for ‘basic’ economy with no luggage.
Obviously OP has their answer from AA, but I don't believe BA allowances should even come into the conversation here — AA is clearly both the MSC under IATA rules (since they are operating the overwater segment) and the first marketing carrier under US DOT rules (since the ZRH-LHR is sold under an AA code).
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by louie-m
Can I ask who (within AA) you asked for help, how you contacted them and from whom you got this response, please? I have a similar issue and have struggled to find anyway of getting help from AA.
It was over twitter as my experience is that the agents on the app chat are not the best. I don't know if it's true but I always get better support via Twitter PMs.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 8:48 am
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It wasn't an issue at the airport except that they had two reservation/tickets and two seat assignments under my name.
While I was asleep It got resolved as I got a message from AA twitter around 3AM or so. BA gave me another weird message that it was caused by missing passport data which is obviously ridiculous.

What really bothers me here is as I am a software engineer myself is that they will never actually consider a technical issue (which I know happens all the time) but do finger pointing instead.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 10:30 am
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One thing that crossed my mind was the size of your bike bag. The AA website states that "we calculate the size limits of your bag by adding the total outside dimensions of each bag, length + width + height. For all regions, except to / from Australia or New Zealand, your checked bag allowance is: Dimension: 62 in / 158 cm. Weight: 50 lbs / 23 kgs."Ok, I went and checked a fairly fancy bike bag, the "Aerotech Bike bag" - note that people in the user comments said they had tested this bag with multiple connections but, that is for the safe ship of the bike, it says nothing about whether they had to pay extra for bag allowance.

https://sciconsports.com/ca_en/aerot...on-tp070200544

(actually a shell bag meant to help protect the bike) and here are the maximum dimensions in cm - 112 cm plus 21.5 plus 87, lezzee, that comes to 220.5 cm.

So unless I have misunderstood something, a bike bag like that would exceed the maximum dimensions of a 'regular' size checked bag.

Next, I tried a 'soft bike bag' from the same company, it didn't give depth but did give length (110 cm) and height (90 cm) which even without depth/width would exceed maximum bag size - IF I have read everything about the luggage allowance correctly.

For bags over a total dimension of 62 in/158 cm, but less than 126 in/320 cm, the oversize bag fee is gonna be a whopping $150. (They don't accept checked bags with dimension exceeding 320 cm.)

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ht-baggage.jsp

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Old Jan 13, 2023, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by simpleflyer
One thing that crossed my mind was the size of your bike bag. The AA website states that "we calculate the size limits of your bag by adding the total outside dimensions of each bag, length + width + height. For all regions, except to / from Australia or New Zealand, your checked bag allowance is: Dimension: 62 in / 158 cm. Weight: 50 lbs / 23 kgs."Ok, I went and checked a fairly fancy bike bag, the "Aerotech Bike bag" - note that people in the user comments said they had tested this bag with multiple connections but, that is for the safe ship of the bike, it says nothing about whether they had to pay extra for bag allowance.

https://sciconsports.com/ca_en/aerot...on-tp070200544

(actually a shell bag meant to help protect the bike) and here are the maximum dimensions in cm - 112 cm plus 21.5 plus 87, lezzee, that comes to 220.5 cm.

So unless I have misunderstood something, a bike bag like that would exceed the maximum dimensions of a 'regular' size checked bag.

Next, I tried a 'soft bike bag' from the same company, it didn't give depth but did give length (110 cm) and height (90 cm) which even without depth/width would exceed maximum bag size - IF I have read everything about the luggage allowance correctly.

For bags over a total dimension of 62 in/158 cm, but less than 126 in/320 cm, the oversize bag fee is gonna be a whopping $150. (They don't accept checked bags with dimension exceeding 320 cm.)

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ht-baggage.jsp
I have more like a bike suitcase and I have done the same thing on exactly that route before. As I have a light weight carbon road cycle it is less than 50 lbs and is considered a "normal bag" in terms of the allowance.
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