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Airbus A321T / 321T “32B” Transcon JFK <--> LAX / SFO Upgrade Success / Help

Airbus A321T / 321T “32B” Transcon JFK <--> LAX / SFO Upgrade Success / Help

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A321T / 321T / Transcontinental JFK to/from LAX & SFO: Upgrade Success & Assistance


American flies the transcontinental A321T with three classes including solo First and Business pairs that fully recline horizontally. (Note the "32B" designation applies to all Airbus A321-100 and -200 - aircraft with "Sharklets" blended winglets in accord with ICAO standards, including two and three class A321s used by AA.)

It appears demand in J is high, supply less so, making this a tricky upgrade from coach to business. First sometimes looks like there’s good availability until close to departure, and it’s common that this cabin is filled deadheading.

Upgrading is challenging, and Y to J SWU or miles + copay always trumps 500 mile or DODU / courtesy upgrades within an elite tier. (500 mile and courtesy upgrades from Business to First is not allowed).

Remember, upgrade priority for these flights is:
  • Elite status tier
  • SWU & miles and copay
  • Business Extra and “special corporate agency upgrade certificates”
  • 500 mile (“stickers”) and complimentary / DODU upgrades*
  • Award upgrades (CK, EXP, PRO)*
  • Last 12 months’ rolling EQD spend
  • Etc.
*Y to C/J only; C to F not allowed


Cabins will generally not be “rolled” forward (e.g. J to F) to accommodate upgrades.

Those confirmed in Flagship First on these (between JFK and LAX or SFO) can access Flagship Lounges as well as Flagship First Dining at JFK or LAX, or the Admirals Club at SFO (or the LAX TBIT Qantas First lounge).

Related threads:

Aircraft guide: Which Airbus A321? (including “321”, “32B”, A321neo)

A321 Transcon / A321T / "32B" 3 class began service Jan 2014 (consolidated)

Best Business / First seat on AA transcon Airbus A321 / A321T / "32B" (consolidated)

Best Economy / MCE seat on AA transcon Airbus A321 / A321T / 32B (consolidated)

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Old Feb 21, 18, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by MrJBoy View Post
Are we able to see the BXP1 upgrade request online? I am not...
You won't see a BXP1 upgrade request online.
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Old Feb 21, 18, 10:55 pm
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Originally Posted by msv777 View Post


I don’t see that AA256 (LAX-JFK) runs on Saturday... EF shows it flies 6 days per week Su,M,T,W,Th,F.

Cheers.
From April 1 AA256 runs everyday.
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Old Feb 22, 18, 12:22 pm
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EQD rolling?

how do you find your Rolling EQD? I’ve spent $8k this year, but can’t see how much since feb 2017? I can see last year total.


thanks.
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Old Feb 22, 18, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by JBauer View Post
how do you find your Rolling EQD? I’ve spent $8k this year, but can’t see how much since feb 2017? I can see last year total.


thanks.
You can't see it on AA.com or through the app. I keep all my flights in a spreadsheet so I can calculate it manually. AA agents can't see it either by the way
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Old Feb 24, 18, 12:43 am
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Data point: I’m a PlatPro with ~ $10k rolling spend and got upgraded to biz about 8 hours before AA18 took off on a Friday night.
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Old Mar 2, 18, 2:53 pm
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Hi all,

I'm booked on AA12 2018-03-06 which is currently showing J6 D4 I0 on Expertflyer. I'm EXP with probably around 17k rolling EQD.

So first the obvious...thoughts on my chances?

Second, how much do you think it would improve my chances to try a miles+copay or SWU in this instance? Looking here my understanding is doing so would put me above all EXPs who are not using miles/SWU, but below CK. Do I have that right? Do you think it'll matter?
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Old Mar 3, 18, 9:27 am
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OK, that second question is now kinda moot; I went ahead and had them waitlist me with miles+copay. The more I thought about it the more 15k+$75 just seems like a steal for 2500 miles in lie-flat J. And I'll save my SWUs for international flights where the miles+copay isn't so attractive.
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Old Mar 3, 18, 2:06 pm
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Noticed some $1,116 cash fares on this route in business. I'm worried that lower cash fares will reduce upgrade availability
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Old Mar 3, 18, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ralphs View Post
Noticed some $1,116 cash fares on this route in business. I'm worried that lower cash fares will reduce upgrade availability
Last week I got two Monday morning JFK/LAX business tickets for $550 each. They offer some low fares but usually only 1-2 if any.
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Old Mar 3, 18, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by HLCinCOU View Post
OK, that second question is now kinda moot; I went ahead and had them waitlist me with miles+copay. The more I thought about it the more 15k+$75 just seems like a steal for 2500 miles in lie-flat J. And I'll save my SWUs for international flights where the miles+copay isn't so attractive.
To my thinking, this is one of the last remaining sweet spots not (yet) snuffed out by AA.
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Old Mar 10, 18, 3:10 pm
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I’m booked in business LAX to JFK and while checking in it gave me a $250 upgrade option to first. Is it a good deal?
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Old Mar 10, 18, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by tomcat007 View Post
I’m booked in business LAX to JFK and while checking in it gave me a $250 upgrade option to first. Is it a good deal?
Eh. The only real advantage to First on these flights is better privacy since the seating is 1-1 instead of 2-2. I often see discount First on this route selling for $100 or less as a premium to Business, so I wouldn't call a $250 upgrade a particularly good deal.
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Old Mar 10, 18, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by jordyn View Post
Eh. The only real advantage to First on these flights is better privacy since the seating is 1-1 instead of 2-2. I often see discount First on this route selling for $100 or less as a premium to Business, so I wouldn't call a $250 upgrade a particularly good deal.
I agree 100%. In my experience, F and J service and food on this route are near-identical. Only compelling reason for ANY paid upgrade would be Flagship First Dining, but certainly not worth $250.
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Old Mar 10, 18, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by pmblinn View Post
I agree 100%. In my experience, F and J service and food on this route are near-identical. Only compelling reason for ANY paid upgrade would be Flagship First Dining, but certainly not worth $250.
If OP has the cash and hasn't flown F it could be a nice treat, especially with flagship dining on both ends (though three meals in 7-8 hours is a lot).
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Old Mar 10, 18, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by tomcat007 View Post
I’m booked in business LAX to JFK and while checking in it gave me a $250 upgrade option to first. Is it a good deal?
sure, if you want to join the non-rev party
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