Mar 7, 2014, 1:36 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
The current thread for discussing the 767-323ER Thompson Vantage Business Seats is https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1542143-boeing-767-300-763-thompson-vantage-business-seat-map-best-seats.html.
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"CIP" Cabin Improvement Program Full Lie Flat Thompson Vantage Seat and All-Aisle Access. 16 of 24 with WiFi, Business with tablets for IFE.
See American Airlines Business Class Seat video in first post [/b][/center]
Due to thread and interest growth, please see 763 / 767 CIP New (2014) Business Seat and Map (master thread). BUSINESS SEAT and BUSINESS CABIN posts have moved to that thread.
NOTE: All currently flying 763s are refurbished.
100% of the active fleet have been converted (as of 30OCT17) (* = wifi available):
- N342AN*, N343AN*, N344AN*, N346AN*, N347AN*, N348AN*, N349AN*, N350AN*, N379AA, N381AN*, N384AA*, N385AM, N388AA, N389AA, N390AA, N391AA, N392AN, N393AN, N394AN, N395AN, N396AN, N397AN*, N398AN, and N399AN*.
The following 34 aircraft have been retired (as of 30OCT17):
- N345AN, N351AA, N352AA, N353AA, N354AA, N355AA, N357AA, N358AA, N39356, N359AA, N360AA, N361AA, N362AA, N363AA, N39364, N39365, N366AA, N39367, N368AA, N369AA, N370AA, N371AA, N372AA, N373AA, N374AA, N7375A, N376AN, N377AN, N378AN, N382AN, N383AN, N386AA, N387AM, N380AN (with N373AA being the final NGBC aircraft retired to Roswell on 30OCT17)
Program details:
- ~26 (46%) of AA's fleet of 57 763 / 767-323ERs have been retained and upgraded with a Cabin Improvement Program - 28 new horizontal lie-flat Thompson Vantage business seats, 14 MCE seats (row 11 gets removed as the business cabin is enlarged), and 163 coach / economy (including 14 exit row) seats. Other upgrades include international satellite Wi-Fi (refit started in 2016), 110V AC power outlets in the business cabin (MCE and coach will retain 15V DC cigarette-lighter style power), new overhead monitors and audio systems, and a refurbishment of lavatories and main cabin seats. No personal in-seat video system was installed - the premium cabin retain the Samsung Galaxy tablets (docked to seatbacks) on international flights, and the main cabin, as well as the premium cabin on domestic flights, will stay with shared overhead screens.
- These aircraft were refurbished for one reason: the AA/BA/IB/AY transatlantic joint business agreement requires that AA have lie-flat seats for transatlantic routes.
- Link to post with artist's rendition of new J cabin. Link to post with new seat maps as they appear in AA.com
- Link to airchive article including pictures, and Link to mycrewlife blog post with more renderings showing the business cabin.
- Link to FT Trip Report with images
- Link to AA's widebody CIP announcement. For 777 upgrades, see thread 777-200ER / 772 No First; New Business Announced 2014 (767 stuff moved).
J-cabin seat map:
Code:
A D G J 2 0_ 0_0_ _0 2 3 _0 _0_0 0_ 3 4 0_ 0_0_ _0 4 5 _0 _0_0 0_ 5 6 0_ 0_0_ _0 6 7 _0 _0_0 0_ 7 8 0_ 0_0_ _0 8 A D G J Legend: 0 = seat; _ = table
Note: the seats in C behind seats with smaller consoles (inside center) have smaller foot cubbies; those with large feet or shoes will feel cramped. Those over six feet will feel cramped if they lie supine in the fully flattened seat; sleeping slanted or side sleeping with bent legs is possible.
In Business they offer a 110 VAC multi-socket in the e-pad front tray area, and another, as well as USB and audio mini jack at shoulder height over and at the rear of the console. Seat controls are touch controls, and can involuntarily be operated by resting your forearm on the console.
The tray table is released with a button; it pivots out and folds. Table height may impede those who are portly or have long legs. Overhead bins, IFE monitors, lavs etc. have not been upgraded.
JDiver's mini-report here.
Contributors: sensei, SDQBound(former B7e7US), Longboater, Econometrics[/COLOR]
ARCHIVE: Boeing 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with Lie Flat Business (2014 CIP)
Feb 15, 2015, 11:17 am
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Looks really nice but I assume these are not on the aa80/81 dfw-lhr route yet 
Edit: the wiki confirmed old config from dfw it seems
Edit: the wiki confirmed old config from dfw it seems
Last edited by kauppias; Feb 15, 2015 at 11:23 am
Feb 15, 2015, 4:20 pm
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Feb 15, 2015, 6:04 pm
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Recently booked DFW-FRA 4/25; map is showing old configuration. A good while back some opined here that FRA would get upgraded planes early in the distribution. That didn't happen. Does anyone have current information as to whether FRA is likely to get refurbished planes before late Apr? (Seat choice is the issue, of course.)
Feb 15, 2015, 6:09 pm
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Feb 15, 2015, 7:20 pm
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Sorry... I was responding to someone asking about MIA-CDG, which just had the new seatmaps loaded for the foreseeable future! DFW-FRA saw the new config a couple times last week, but is not currently scheduled to receive it.
That said, the refurbishments have recently taken just a little over two weeks, so there may be a lot more CIP planes in service by late April.
It remains curious that BOG GIG PAP SCL VCL have all seen frequent CIP service before MIA-MXP, DFW-LHR, DFW-FRA, ORD-LHR etc., if the transatlantic joint venture is still the driving force behind the upgrades. It seems that ORD-CDG is scheduled to operate with CIP aircraft in April as of the schedule update this weekend.
That said, the refurbishments have recently taken just a little over two weeks, so there may be a lot more CIP planes in service by late April.
It remains curious that BOG GIG PAP SCL VCL have all seen frequent CIP service before MIA-MXP, DFW-LHR, DFW-FRA, ORD-LHR etc., if the transatlantic joint venture is still the driving force behind the upgrades. It seems that ORD-CDG is scheduled to operate with CIP aircraft in April as of the schedule update this weekend.
Recently booked DFW-FRA 4/25; map is showing old configuration. A good while back some opined here that FRA would get upgraded planes early in the distribution. That didn't happen. Does anyone have current information as to whether FRA is likely to get refurbished planes before late Apr? (Seat choice is the issue, of course.)
Feb 16, 2015, 8:20 am
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Thanks, sensei. Knew your info was about CDG but wondered if it might mean FRA seatmaps were current as well. Sounds like we still need to go with choices that are safe for both configurations and thus not ideal for either on this route, darn it.
Feb 17, 2015, 4:31 am
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N396AN back in service, doing DFW-LAX-DFW-MIA-VCP today.
Feb 17, 2015, 8:49 am
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Pretty safe to say now its just roughly two weeks turnaround time for the CIP. Wasn't N396AN in old paint as well?
Feb 17, 2015, 12:04 pm
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Looks like N397AN is next. On its way to PAE. Also, it appears N381AN was retired yesterday.
Feb 17, 2015, 12:09 pm
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Does anyone know if any of the 763 CIP will get one of the retro paint jobs? Would be odd to see 763 in TWA colors again.
Feb 17, 2015, 12:31 pm
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N381AN might have gone in for paint at ROW. JonNYC would probably be able to confirm if indeed it has been sent to the boneyard.
Feb 17, 2015, 12:44 pm
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Feb 17, 2015, 2:53 pm
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Feb 18, 2015, 3:09 am
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I was on N396AN for the morning DFW-LAX leg. There was much fanfare about it being the first revenue flight with the new seats. Seat map changed about 24 hours in advance. Great service in F and the FAs spent a ton of time explaining the seat features. Not surprisingly the tray table was a Rubik's Cube-like adventure for most people.
Feb 18, 2015, 9:26 am
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No doubt! Can you advise, what criteria do you use to determine that that aircraft was retired? Just curious as I never really though of that (until they disappear forever from Jetsaa) Is there some other indication? Thanks!
Can you advise, what criteria do you use to determine that that aircraft was retired? Just curious as I never really though of that (until they disappear forever from Jetsaa) Is there some other indication? Thanks!