Mar 7, 2014, 1:36 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
The current thread for discussing the 767-323ER Thompson Vantage Business Seats is https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1542143-boeing-767-300-763-thompson-vantage-business-seat-map-best-seats.html.
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"CIP" Cabin Improvement Program Full Lie Flat Thompson Vantage Seat and All-Aisle Access. 16 of 24 with WiFi, Business with tablets for IFE.
See American Airlines Business Class Seat video in first post [/b][/center]
Due to thread and interest growth, please see 763 / 767 CIP New (2014) Business Seat and Map (master thread). BUSINESS SEAT and BUSINESS CABIN posts have moved to that thread.
NOTE: All currently flying 763s are refurbished.
100% of the active fleet have been converted (as of 30OCT17) (* = wifi available):
- N342AN*, N343AN*, N344AN*, N346AN*, N347AN*, N348AN*, N349AN*, N350AN*, N379AA, N381AN*, N384AA*, N385AM, N388AA, N389AA, N390AA, N391AA, N392AN, N393AN, N394AN, N395AN, N396AN, N397AN*, N398AN, and N399AN*.
The following 34 aircraft have been retired (as of 30OCT17):
- N345AN, N351AA, N352AA, N353AA, N354AA, N355AA, N357AA, N358AA, N39356, N359AA, N360AA, N361AA, N362AA, N363AA, N39364, N39365, N366AA, N39367, N368AA, N369AA, N370AA, N371AA, N372AA, N373AA, N374AA, N7375A, N376AN, N377AN, N378AN, N382AN, N383AN, N386AA, N387AM, N380AN (with N373AA being the final NGBC aircraft retired to Roswell on 30OCT17)
Program details:
- ~26 (46%) of AA's fleet of 57 763 / 767-323ERs have been retained and upgraded with a Cabin Improvement Program - 28 new horizontal lie-flat Thompson Vantage business seats, 14 MCE seats (row 11 gets removed as the business cabin is enlarged), and 163 coach / economy (including 14 exit row) seats. Other upgrades include international satellite Wi-Fi (refit started in 2016), 110V AC power outlets in the business cabin (MCE and coach will retain 15V DC cigarette-lighter style power), new overhead monitors and audio systems, and a refurbishment of lavatories and main cabin seats. No personal in-seat video system was installed - the premium cabin retain the Samsung Galaxy tablets (docked to seatbacks) on international flights, and the main cabin, as well as the premium cabin on domestic flights, will stay with shared overhead screens.
- These aircraft were refurbished for one reason: the AA/BA/IB/AY transatlantic joint business agreement requires that AA have lie-flat seats for transatlantic routes.
- Link to post with artist's rendition of new J cabin. Link to post with new seat maps as they appear in AA.com
- Link to airchive article including pictures, and Link to mycrewlife blog post with more renderings showing the business cabin.
- Link to FT Trip Report with images
- Link to AA's widebody CIP announcement. For 777 upgrades, see thread 777-200ER / 772 No First; New Business Announced 2014 (767 stuff moved).
J-cabin seat map:
Code:
A D G J 2 0_ 0_0_ _0 2 3 _0 _0_0 0_ 3 4 0_ 0_0_ _0 4 5 _0 _0_0 0_ 5 6 0_ 0_0_ _0 6 7 _0 _0_0 0_ 7 8 0_ 0_0_ _0 8 A D G J Legend: 0 = seat; _ = table
Note: the seats in C behind seats with smaller consoles (inside center) have smaller foot cubbies; those with large feet or shoes will feel cramped. Those over six feet will feel cramped if they lie supine in the fully flattened seat; sleeping slanted or side sleeping with bent legs is possible.
In Business they offer a 110 VAC multi-socket in the e-pad front tray area, and another, as well as USB and audio mini jack at shoulder height over and at the rear of the console. Seat controls are touch controls, and can involuntarily be operated by resting your forearm on the console.
The tray table is released with a button; it pivots out and folds. Table height may impede those who are portly or have long legs. Overhead bins, IFE monitors, lavs etc. have not been upgraded.
JDiver's mini-report here.
Contributors: sensei, SDQBound(former B7e7US), Longboater, Econometrics[/COLOR]
ARCHIVE: Boeing 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with Lie Flat Business (2014 CIP)
Jan 13, 2015, 8:02 pm
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I just wanted to know if these birds were still flying with those seats .. and so far reading the last few pages , these seats haven't been chopped out of the plane. If the seats are there, i will get them. 
It's been a year since i haven't flown the 763, i wonder what has happened ever since then. Wow it seemed like yesterday when NGBC was the big deal and everyone was crossing fingers to get one of those seats, how fast time flies!
Jan 13, 2015, 8:21 pm
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Jan 13, 2015, 9:28 pm
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Jan 14, 2015, 2:55 am
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I have always asked politely and i have always gotten Row 17. More than 10 times without failing. I have even asked for Row 17 at T24 without even flying when checking in my parents and AA employees have sit them for me in my behalf. I just wanted to know if these birds were still flying with those seats .. and so far reading the last few pages , these seats haven't been chopped out of the plane. If the seats are there, i will get them.
It's been a year since i haven't flown the 763, i wonder what has happened ever since then. Wow it seemed like yesterday when NGBC was the big deal and everyone was crossing fingers to get one of those seats, how fast time flies!
I just wanted to know if these birds were still flying with those seats .. and so far reading the last few pages , these seats haven't been chopped out of the plane. If the seats are there, i will get them. It's been a year since i haven't flown the 763, i wonder what has happened ever since then. Wow it seemed like yesterday when NGBC was the big deal and everyone was crossing fingers to get one of those seats, how fast time flies!
Please report back on your experience.
According to the information available to the public, it has been in KPAE since the end of December.
Jan 14, 2015, 6:12 am
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Jan 18, 2015, 3:10 pm
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N384AA operated JFK-GIG for the first time last night after being refitted. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N384AA
N398AN flew into KPAE three hours ago for refit.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N398AN
N398AN flew into KPAE three hours ago for refit.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N398AN
Last edited by Longboater; Jan 18, 2015 at 3:16 pm Reason: Added N398AN
Jan 22, 2015, 5:08 pm
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N391AA was last shown flying OGG-DFW on Sunday, December 28. Could this plane also be in for mods?
Jan 22, 2015, 6:11 pm
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I was scheduled on a ORD-CDG flight earlier this month. They showed the old 763 until about 24-48 hours prior to the flight. Then they switched to the new 763 for about 12-24 hours before they reverted back to the old 763 ~ 6 hours before the flight. The J section left fairly full except for 2-3 empty seats.
I will have to wait to try out the new 763 some other time.
I will have to wait to try out the new 763 some other time.
Jan 23, 2015, 5:58 am
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Latest file show # of new/active 763's back up to 13
N398AN is showing on the new list.
391 shows on neither list at present, 343 still M.I.A. from new list.
N398AN is showing on the new list.
391 shows on neither list at present, 343 still M.I.A. from new list.
Last edited by JonNYC; Jan 23, 2015 at 6:29 am
Jan 25, 2015, 10:45 pm
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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N343AN
N343AN did a test hop today down at KBFM. It will return to service this week. It was in KBFM for nine weeks. Unless she was undergoing major repairs, I assume this was a D check? N347AN has not flown since December 7.
N343AN did a test hop today down at KBFM. It will return to service this week. It was in KBFM for nine weeks. Unless she was undergoing major repairs, I assume this was a D check? N347AN has not flown since December 7.
Jan 26, 2015, 3:21 pm
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There are now 14 refurb listed, 343 being returned to the list, # of old ones back up to 43.
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Jan 30, 2015, 10:15 am
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Flying to Milan (AA198) tonight and apparently they have swapped an old style 2-2-2 763 back into service. Only good news is the extra seats mean my upgrade my be more likely to clear..
Jan 30, 2015, 12:36 pm
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Question on the refurbished 763s - understandably, the focus from AA on these ships has been on the drastically changed J cabin and introduction of MCE.
However, the changes to the Y cabin, while not as big (new upholstery, etc.), have gone virtually unmentioned - it's also been difficult to impossible to find any pics or detailed information about the Y cabin updates outside of the very general.
Out of curiosity, are there images of the Y cabin updates available anywhere?
However, the changes to the Y cabin, while not as big (new upholstery, etc.), have gone virtually unmentioned - it's also been difficult to impossible to find any pics or detailed information about the Y cabin updates outside of the very general.
Out of curiosity, are there images of the Y cabin updates available anywhere?
Jan 30, 2015, 1:12 pm
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Question on the refurbished 763s - understandably, the focus from AA on these ships has been on the drastically changed J cabin and introduction of MCE.
However, the changes to the Y cabin, while not as big (new upholstery, etc.), have gone virtually unmentioned - it's also been difficult to impossible to find any pics or detailed information about the Y cabin updates outside of the very general.
Out of curiosity, are there images of the Y cabin updates available anywhere?
However, the changes to the Y cabin, while not as big (new upholstery, etc.), have gone virtually unmentioned - it's also been difficult to impossible to find any pics or detailed information about the Y cabin updates outside of the very general.
Out of curiosity, are there images of the Y cabin updates available anywhere?