Mar 7, 2014, 1:36 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
The current thread for discussing the 767-323ER Thompson Vantage Business Seats is https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1542143-boeing-767-300-763-thompson-vantage-business-seat-map-best-seats.html.
Moderator
Moderator
"CIP" Cabin Improvement Program Full Lie Flat Thompson Vantage Seat and All-Aisle Access. 16 of 24 with WiFi, Business with tablets for IFE.
See American Airlines Business Class Seat video in first post [/b][/center]
Due to thread and interest growth, please see 763 / 767 CIP New (2014) Business Seat and Map (master thread). BUSINESS SEAT and BUSINESS CABIN posts have moved to that thread.
NOTE: All currently flying 763s are refurbished.
100% of the active fleet have been converted (as of 30OCT17) (* = wifi available):
- N342AN*, N343AN*, N344AN*, N346AN*, N347AN*, N348AN*, N349AN*, N350AN*, N379AA, N381AN*, N384AA*, N385AM, N388AA, N389AA, N390AA, N391AA, N392AN, N393AN, N394AN, N395AN, N396AN, N397AN*, N398AN, and N399AN*.
The following 34 aircraft have been retired (as of 30OCT17):
- N345AN, N351AA, N352AA, N353AA, N354AA, N355AA, N357AA, N358AA, N39356, N359AA, N360AA, N361AA, N362AA, N363AA, N39364, N39365, N366AA, N39367, N368AA, N369AA, N370AA, N371AA, N372AA, N373AA, N374AA, N7375A, N376AN, N377AN, N378AN, N382AN, N383AN, N386AA, N387AM, N380AN (with N373AA being the final NGBC aircraft retired to Roswell on 30OCT17)
Program details:
- ~26 (46%) of AA's fleet of 57 763 / 767-323ERs have been retained and upgraded with a Cabin Improvement Program - 28 new horizontal lie-flat Thompson Vantage business seats, 14 MCE seats (row 11 gets removed as the business cabin is enlarged), and 163 coach / economy (including 14 exit row) seats. Other upgrades include international satellite Wi-Fi (refit started in 2016), 110V AC power outlets in the business cabin (MCE and coach will retain 15V DC cigarette-lighter style power), new overhead monitors and audio systems, and a refurbishment of lavatories and main cabin seats. No personal in-seat video system was installed - the premium cabin retain the Samsung Galaxy tablets (docked to seatbacks) on international flights, and the main cabin, as well as the premium cabin on domestic flights, will stay with shared overhead screens.
- These aircraft were refurbished for one reason: the AA/BA/IB/AY transatlantic joint business agreement requires that AA have lie-flat seats for transatlantic routes.
- Link to post with artist's rendition of new J cabin. Link to post with new seat maps as they appear in AA.com
- Link to airchive article including pictures, and Link to mycrewlife blog post with more renderings showing the business cabin.
- Link to FT Trip Report with images
- Link to AA's widebody CIP announcement. For 777 upgrades, see thread 777-200ER / 772 No First; New Business Announced 2014 (767 stuff moved).
J-cabin seat map:
Code:
A D G J 2 0_ 0_0_ _0 2 3 _0 _0_0 0_ 3 4 0_ 0_0_ _0 4 5 _0 _0_0 0_ 5 6 0_ 0_0_ _0 6 7 _0 _0_0 0_ 7 8 0_ 0_0_ _0 8 A D G J Legend: 0 = seat; _ = table
Note: the seats in C behind seats with smaller consoles (inside center) have smaller foot cubbies; those with large feet or shoes will feel cramped. Those over six feet will feel cramped if they lie supine in the fully flattened seat; sleeping slanted or side sleeping with bent legs is possible.
In Business they offer a 110 VAC multi-socket in the e-pad front tray area, and another, as well as USB and audio mini jack at shoulder height over and at the rear of the console. Seat controls are touch controls, and can involuntarily be operated by resting your forearm on the console.
The tray table is released with a button; it pivots out and folds. Table height may impede those who are portly or have long legs. Overhead bins, IFE monitors, lavs etc. have not been upgraded.
JDiver's mini-report here.
Contributors: sensei, SDQBound(former B7e7US), Longboater, Econometrics[/COLOR]
ARCHIVE: Boeing 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with Lie Flat Business (2014 CIP)
Jan 4, 2018, 9:19 pm
#1696
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New England
Programs: UA 1P, Hyatt Diamond, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,502
Jan 17, 2018, 1:14 pm
#1699
Join Date: May 2009
Location: DFW
Programs: AA 1MM
Posts: 185
The 763s are headed back to HI (LIH & KOA) starting in mid Feb from DFW.
Jan 26, 2018, 8:12 pm
#1700
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,774
767-300 business class tablet (flat-bed without PTV) (to merge)
Does the tablet contain flight-map or just movie/TV-Shows?
Jan 26, 2018, 8:49 pm
#1701
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
To offer flight mapping, the tablet would have to somehow - wirelessly or otherwise - be connected in such a way so as to receive data from the aircraft. The tablet is stand-alone, and you can only play what is in its storage.
Jan 29, 2018, 9:35 pm
#1702
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: AA Executive Platinum/Million Miler, Marriott Titanium Elite-Lifetime, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,210
When I flew AMS-DFW on the 763 last summer, the flight attendants left the map displayed on the monitors located throughout the cabin.
Jan 31, 2018, 1:25 pm
#1703
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148
Jan 31, 2018, 2:33 pm
#1704
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,233
If there's WiFi (not sure on 763), usually you can still get some flight status/positioning information through the portal. But probably not on the A/V tablet, you'd have to use your own device (but it would be free).
Jan 31, 2018, 2:37 pm
#1705
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148
Feb 23, 2018, 7:41 am
#1706
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington DC
Programs: BA GLD, AA GLD 1MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 1,698
Reading through this thread, it appears around 16 or 17 of the 767s have wifi and the rest do not, and may not ever. I'm looking to book a ticket from BUD to WAS this summer and the most reasonable options are BUD-PHL-DCA or BUD-LHR-IAD. Both have their plusses and minuses, neither airport is especially nice to transit, but wifi availability would be a significant driving factor in my decision as I will be flying on a workday. I understand with BA on the LHR-IAD, I would be gambling on a wifi'd 747. Seems with AA I would also be gambling on a wifi'd 767. Any advice from the crowd here on which option is more likely to have wifi by this coming June or July? Aside from the Wi-Fi I'm leaning toward the AA flight anyway as it appears to be a better hard product than BA and DCA is much more convenient for me.
Feb 23, 2018, 7:58 am
#1707
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
AA. I think BA has minimal aircraft with Wi-Fi — especially the 747s
Reading through this thread, it appears around 16 or 17 of the 767s have wifi and the rest do not, and may not ever. I'm looking to book a ticket from BUD to WAS this summer and the most reasonable options are BUD-PHL-DCA or BUD-LHR-IAD. Both have their plusses and minuses, neither airport is especially nice to transit, but wifi availability would be a significant driving factor in my decision as I will be flying on a workday. I understand with BA on the LHR-IAD, I would be gambling on a wifi'd 747. Seems with AA I would also be gambling on a wifi'd 767. Any advice from the crowd here on which option is more likely to have wifi by this coming June or July? Aside from the Wi-Fi I'm leaning toward the AA flight anyway as it appears to be a better hard product than BA and DCA is much more convenient for me.
Feb 23, 2018, 8:01 am
#1708
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148
Reading through this thread, it appears around 16 or 17 of the 767s have wifi and the rest do not, and may not ever. I'm looking to book a ticket from BUD to WAS this summer and the most reasonable options are BUD-PHL-DCA or BUD-LHR-IAD. Both have their plusses and minuses, neither airport is especially nice to transit, but wifi availability would be a significant driving factor in my decision as I will be flying on a workday. I understand with BA on the LHR-IAD, I would be gambling on a wifi'd 747. Seems with AA I would also be gambling on a wifi'd 767. Any advice from the crowd here on which option is more likely to have wifi by this coming June or July? Aside from the Wi-Fi I'm leaning toward the AA flight anyway as it appears to be a better hard product than BA and DCA is much more convenient for me.
Regarding Wifi, I do think statistically you'll have better chances with AA. The BA wifi rollout is going VERY slow. Only 5 747's right now (all 86J) and one 77W.
Feb 23, 2018, 8:13 am
#1709
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Austin, TX - AUS
Programs: AA Platinum, Hilton, Hyatt, IHG, Marriott
Posts: 1,625
Reading through this thread, it appears around 16 or 17 of the 767s have wifi and the rest do not, and may not ever. I'm looking to book a ticket from BUD to WAS this summer and the most reasonable options are BUD-PHL-DCA or BUD-LHR-IAD. Both have their plusses and minuses, neither airport is especially nice to transit, but wifi availability would be a significant driving factor in my decision as I will be flying on a workday. I understand with BA on the LHR-IAD, I would be gambling on a wifi'd 747. Seems with AA I would also be gambling on a wifi'd 767. Any advice from the crowd here on which option is more likely to have wifi by this coming June or July? Aside from the Wi-Fi I'm leaning toward the AA flight anyway as it appears to be a better hard product than BA and DCA is much more convenient for me.
Feb 23, 2018, 8:16 am
#1710
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148