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ARCHIVE: Boeing 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with Lie Flat Business (2014 CIP)

ARCHIVE: Boeing 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with Lie Flat Business (2014 CIP)

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"CIP" Cabin Improvement Program Full Lie Flat Thompson Vantage Seat and All-Aisle Access. 16 of 24 with WiFi, Business with tablets for IFE.

See American Airlines Business Class Seat video in first post
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Due to thread and interest growth, please see 763 / 767 CIP New (2014) Business Seat and Map (master thread). BUSINESS SEAT and BUSINESS CABIN posts have moved to that thread.

NOTE: All currently flying 763s are refurbished.

100% of the active fleet have been converted (as of 30OCT17) (* = wifi available):
  • N342AN*, N343AN*, N344AN*, N346AN*, N347AN*, N348AN*, N349AN*, N350AN*, N379AA, N381AN*, N384AA*, N385AM, N388AA, N389AA, N390AA, N391AA, N392AN, N393AN, N394AN, N395AN, N396AN, N397AN*, N398AN, and N399AN*.

The following 34 aircraft have been retired (as of 30OCT17):
  • N345AN, N351AA, N352AA, N353AA, N354AA, N355AA, N357AA, N358AA, N39356, N359AA, N360AA, N361AA, N362AA, N363AA, N39364, N39365, N366AA, N39367, N368AA, N369AA, N370AA, N371AA, N372AA, N373AA, N374AA, N7375A, N376AN, N377AN, N378AN, N382AN, N383AN, N386AA, N387AM, N380AN (with N373AA being the final NGBC aircraft retired to Roswell on 30OCT17)

Program details:
  • ~26 (46%) of AA's fleet of 57 763 / 767-323ERs have been retained and upgraded with a Cabin Improvement Program - 28 new horizontal lie-flat Thompson Vantage business seats, 14 MCE seats (row 11 gets removed as the business cabin is enlarged), and 163 coach / economy (including 14 exit row) seats. Other upgrades include international satellite Wi-Fi (refit started in 2016), 110V AC power outlets in the business cabin (MCE and coach will retain 15V DC cigarette-lighter style power), new overhead monitors and audio systems, and a refurbishment of lavatories and main cabin seats. No personal in-seat video system was installed - the premium cabin retain the Samsung Galaxy tablets (docked to seatbacks) on international flights, and the main cabin, as well as the premium cabin on domestic flights, will stay with shared overhead screens.

  • These aircraft were refurbished for one reason: the AA/BA/IB/AY transatlantic joint business agreement requires that AA have lie-flat seats for transatlantic routes.

  • Link to post with artist's rendition of new J cabin. Link to post with new seat maps as they appear in AA.com

  • Link to airchive article including pictures, and Link to mycrewlife blog post with more renderings showing the business cabin.

  • Link to FT Trip Report with images

  • Link to AA's widebody CIP announcement. For 777 upgrades, see thread 777-200ER / 772 No First; New Business Announced 2014 (767 stuff moved).

J-cabin seat map:

Code:
   A  D  G  J
 2 0_ 0_0_ _0 2
 3 _0 _0_0 0_ 3
 4 0_ 0_0_ _0 4
 5 _0 _0_0 0_ 5
 6 0_ 0_0_ _0 6
 7 _0 _0_0 0_ 7
 8 0_ 0_0_ _0 8
 A  D  G  J
 
 Legend: 0 = seat; _ = table
Link to SeatGuru 763 seat chart


Note: the seats in C behind seats with smaller consoles (inside center) have smaller foot cubbies; those with large feet or shoes will feel cramped. Those over six feet will feel cramped if they lie supine in the fully flattened seat; sleeping slanted or side sleeping with bent legs is possible.

In Business they offer a 110 VAC multi-socket in the e-pad front tray area, and another, as well as USB and audio mini jack at shoulder height over and at the rear of the console. Seat controls are touch controls, and can involuntarily be operated by resting your forearm on the console.

The tray table is released with a button; it pivots out and folds. Table height may impede those who are portly or have long legs. Overhead bins, IFE monitors, lavs etc. have not been upgraded.

JDiver's mini-report here.

Contributors: sensei, SDQBound(former B7e7US), Longboater, Econometrics[/COLOR]
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Old Aug 23, 17, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Simon Schus View Post
Lovely, thank you for confirming I'm on N394AN so perhaps I'll be without, even though the the AA Flight Status website and app suggests that wifi will be available,
It's *possible* N394AN has been updated with wifi. If so, chime in back here and let us know one way or another.
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Old Aug 23, 17, 3:55 pm
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It's *possible* N394AN has been updated with wifi. If so, chime in back here and let us know one way or another.
Will try, assuming that is the plane that eventually serves the route on that day!
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Old Aug 23, 17, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Simon Schus View Post
Will try, assuming that is the plane that eventually serves the route on that day!
Indeed. The 763 roulette is a real thing.
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Old Aug 23, 17, 4:59 pm
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Is there a time frame when all the 767s that are not being retired are getting wifi? Would be real handy early next year for me (assuming the flights stay 767s).
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Old Aug 24, 17, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by alphaeagle View Post
Is there a time frame when all the 767s that are not being retired are getting wifi? Would be real handy early next year for me (assuming the flights stay 767s).
Per Longboater's post last October, all the wifi equipped planes have been recently fitted with wifi. There's no certainty that all of the 17 763's slated to stay in the fleet past 2018 will get wifi or not.

But with 8 of them having wifi right now, it does seem that is what AA is doing. (Fitting the 17 that will stay longer)
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Old Aug 24, 17, 9:42 am
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Correction: 16 767s will be staying around long term instead of 17. One of the last nine 767s delivered in 2002-2003, in order to replace the TWA 767-300ERs, was written off last year due to an engine fire. There will be 22 767s in the fleet at years end, meaning a couple of the refitted 767s will be retired in the fourth quarter.
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Old Aug 24, 17, 9:45 am
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Yes, RIP N345AN.

Originally Posted by longboater View Post
correction: 16 767s will be staying around long term instead of 17. One of the last nine 767s delivered in 2002-2003, in order to replace the twa 767-300ers, was written off last year due to an engine fire. There will be 22 767s in the fleet at years end, meaning a couple of the refitted 767s will be retired in the fourth quarter.
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Old Sep 6, 17, 8:10 am
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N380AN to Roswell

Appears that another of old config left today, N380AN shows to be in Roswell....


https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n380an
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Old Sep 6, 17, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by tgienger View Post
Appears that another of old config left today, N380AN shows to be in Roswell....


https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n380an
Thanks! Wiki has been updated.
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Old Sep 8, 17, 8:17 pm
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N377AN was retired today. 4 non-CIP birds left!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...928Z/KDFW/KROW
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Old Sep 8, 17, 10:44 pm
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Originally Posted by sensei View Post
N377AN was retired today. 4 non-CIP birds left!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...928Z/KDFW/KROW
She was the last (and only for quite some time) 763 in the LAA livery--one of the best livery + aircraft combinations IMHO.
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Old Sep 14, 17, 12:04 pm
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Lovely, thank you for confirming I'm on N394AN so perhaps I'll be without, even though the the AA Flight Status website and app suggests that wifi will be available,
I can confirm that N394AN does not have international wifi, at least not on a JFK-MAN route.
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Old Oct 4, 17, 3:32 am
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N376AN retired

3 legacy aircraft left.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N376AN
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Old Oct 7, 17, 8:50 pm
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N369AA and N383AN were both retired in the past week. Only N373AA is left in the old configuration. In fact, its the only AA aircraft left with the NGBC seat. It appears to fly DFW-OGG-DFW-MIA-GYE-MIA-DFW rotations. My guess is that it will be retired when the 767s are taken off of DFW-HNL/OGG in early November, along with a few CIP 767s before the end of the year.
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Old Oct 16, 17, 3:30 pm
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oh crap...it seems N373AA has been placed on the DFW-OGG-DFW-HNL-DFW rotation.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n373aa

it seems it's going to operate the 10/18 HNL run...I'm flying DFW-HNL on the 19th and returning on the 22nd. I hope it doesn't operate my flights!!

when would the AA site reflect the aircraft change? Because as of now, AA123 on the 18th still shows the new J config, jet flightradar says the old config is scheduled.
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