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Old Sep 19, 2018, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by IamHungry
Is it possible for you to share JL first class fare rule?
the relevant part

Originally Posted by JL F1E08MN5 fare rule
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 3
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY NU FLIGHT.
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
the relevant part
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 3
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY NU FLIGHT.
Then how can MH71 be included?
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by LukeO9
Then how can MH71 be included?
In your example, it was a booking on AA not JL - different airline, different rules

AA doesn't have the sane airline restrictions as JL
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Old Sep 20, 2018, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
AA doesn't have the sane airline restrictions as JL
Freudian slip?
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Old Sep 20, 2018, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum
Freudian slip?
I am not sure what you think is incorrect about the statement "AA doesn't have the sane airline restrictions as JL"

checking AA's fares , the restrictions on airlines that can be used for a flight from NRT-KUL are not the same as the restrictions that the fares issued by JLhave
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Old Sep 20, 2018, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
I am not sure what you think is incorrect about the statement "AA doesn't have the sane airline restrictions as JL"
Nothing incorrect at all.
There is definitely an air of insanity with the AAward "published fare" rule, where its implementation is a toss-up.
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Old Sep 20, 2018, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by IamHungry
I tried booking
ORD-NRT JL First
NRT-KUL MH First
KUL-BKK RJ Biz
AA wanted 120K miles. Award was broken up to 80K ORD-NRT then 40K for NRT-BKK.
However, same routing with all business class priced at 70K just fine.
Perhaps married segment logic?

First was not available for ORD-BKK but Business was.
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Old Sep 20, 2018, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by LukeO9
Nothing incorrect at all.
There is definitely an air of insanity with the AAward "published fare" rule, where its implementation is a toss-up.
That sometimes rules do not get fully applied is just fortunate - if planning based on having to comply with rules, anything else is a plus

In this case, the governing carrier is JL and its rules are what is relevant - that another carrier's rules would permit that routing doesn't see insane, just different
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Old Sep 20, 2018, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
That sometimes rules do not get fully applied is just fortunate - if planning based on having to comply with rules, anything else is a plus

In this case, the governing carrier is JL and its rules are what is relevant - that another carrier's rules would permit that routing doesn't see insane, just different
As i have repeatedly pointed out, based on years of flying JL revenue tickets, there are few if any JL fares that have ever allowed combination with CX metal in Asia. Yet look at the JL and CX redemption threads, they are filled with people mixing JL transpac with CX intra Asia. It’s just not clear to me that this rule is what is stated in the wiki. Beyond JL, every post of mine in this thread save a couple is posting awards that AA issued that dont meet the supposed published routing rule. I’ve gone from thinking it just wasnt being applied to me to feeling pretty confident that it isnt a blanket rule and there are clearly come carrier combinations that are permitted even without meeting this rule.
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 6:22 am
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Also
ORD-NRT JL First
NRT-HKG CX First

Award got broken into 2 as well. 80K for ORD-NRT and 40K NRT-HKG
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
I am not sure what you think is incorrect about the statement "AA doesn't have the sane airline restrictions as JL"

checking AA's fares , the restrictions on airlines that can be used for a flight from NRT-KUL are not the same as the restrictions that the fares issued by JLhave
When you typed "sane" and I assumed you meant "same", I wondered whether that was a Freudian slip. That's in no way asserting that anything you said was incorrect.
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 12:25 pm
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I am trying to book
SYD-MEL (QF biz)
MEL-SIN (QF F)
SIN-KUL (MH biz)
KUL-NRT (MH biz)

this prices as 2 awards. Based on the wiki going from Oceania to Asia 1 via Asia 2 is permitted. I wonder why. Does anybody have clue?
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by lincoln boy
I am trying to book
SYD-MEL (QF biz)
MEL-SIN (QF F)
SIN-KUL (MH biz)
KUL-NRT (MH biz)

This prices as 2 awards. Based on the wiki going from Oceania to Asia 1 via Asia 2 is permitted. I wonder why. Does anybody have clue?
For AA awards you need a published fare. Doubt there is published fare for that route.
Is this in 1 continuous trip? Or a stopover (+23:59) somewhere?
JL & QF fly from SYD to Japan (various airports)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Airport
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
For AA awards you need a published fare. Doubt there is published fare for that route.
Is this in 1 continuous trip? Or a stopover (+23:59) somewhere?
JL & QF fly from SYD to Japan (various airports)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Airport
No stopover. I just thought it would be fun to fly QF and MH.
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