Noah Hawthorne

I'm a new forum member looking to book an AA rewards flight on Cathay Pacific Business class from LAX to DPS Bali this next summer. It would be a one way flight for 70k miles. Currently the LAX to HKG leg is available in business but the final 5 hour leg HKG to DPS is only available in coach. I believe that AA allows free award ticket changes so long that origin and destination locations stay the same. If award seat availability in business is opened up by Cathay in the future will I be able to snag the seats without cost since I've already booked the full business saver award?

Also, is there a way to automate any monitoring for that availability if I'm able to do that?

dukerau

Yes, you'll be able to change the second flight to J without a fee or additional miles if award space opens up. The only way to automate monitoring is through Award Nexus (paid service).

JDiver

A slight loosening of the rules: On awards to the Indian subcontinent where transpacific routing on AA or CX via HKG is allowed, in addition to CX (Cathay Pacific), 9W (Jet Airways) and UL (Sri Lankan) are all allowed now.

Link to oneworld and partner airlines award chart. The

Updated in the Wikipost.

dtremit

So does this mean that it would be possible to change (for example) from a HKG-LAX-BOS itinerary (HKG-LAX on CX) to HKG-BOS without penalty?

JonNYC

Yep

jchock1

I have a predevaluation award ticket in F, CLT-LGA/JFK-AUH-BOM. Spending the night (23 hours) in NYC and have a 7 hour layover in AUH where we have friends.

Would like to add a segment to the ticket to change the flight to JFK-AUH-DEL-BOM.

I checked MPM and that seemed fine. Any other issues I might run into trying to reticket (other than finding availability?)

iadisgreat

Does EY have routing rules for JFK-BOM fares? If so, you need to be sure it meets those AND the MPM. If not, I think you're fine.

onlysuites

In regards to this

Could I do LHR-DOH-AKL-PPT with the flights being on QR and TN

Dave Noble

You can ask, but would not hold too much hope. QR does not have a fare to PPT which allows travel on TN between AKL and PPT. It might get allowed, but based on the fare rules, it is not a valid route

onlysuites

As always thanks Dave ^

Kind of stuck for choice. Can you suggest any other routes for this journey?

Happy

I have flown ZAG-DOH-SYD.

You should call AA to find out.

Reason being, on a routing DXB-DOH-BKK-HKG, I was told by Dave that it was not in any of QR fare rule and for sure no way I could do DOH-BKK-HKG with CX on the BKK-HKG leg.

Not only AA system readily accepted that routing, the itinerary has gone thru date change just recently and is again reticketed without any issue. Got the new tickets within hours of requesting the date change.

So the ultimate decision is in the hands of AA rate desk. You should at least call first before immediately rule it out because someone here says so.

Dave Noble

That would be be expected to be allowed since the routing rules for ZAG-SYD on QR specifies either of

ZAG-DOH-SYD or
ZAG-DOH-ADL(JQ/VA/QF/QR)SYD

For LHR-PPT, QR does have a fare listed, however it specifies that travel from AKL-PPT needs to be on NZ. Obviously NZ is not permitted for an AA award, so the desired routing does not comply with QR's rules

Generally, AA awards have to comply with the governing carrier's rules, but sometimes this type of difference of carrier can slide through, so worth asking - just be prepared that may well be quoted as 2 awards

I cannot think of any obvious routing to PPT from LHR - I would try this routing, but maybe just have to buy AKL-PPT on its own

pschafer

Why not LHR-CDG-LAX-PPT (on TN) - with LHR-CDG on BA - not sure if it's a valid routing but certainly CDG-LAX-PPT is.

flyingeph12

What about LON - TYO - PPT, with LON-TYO on JL/BA and TYO-PPT on TN?

Dave Noble

Europe to South Pacific does not allow travel via North America, so CDG-LAX-PPT is not a valid award routing ( without using 2 awards )

Neither BA nor JL have fares for LON-PPT.