I booked an Alaska flight with AA miles but I can't seem to get the reservation to pull up on the Alaska website. Tried entering the AA confirmation # and ticket #. Do you need to call in to get the Alaska ticket #?
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Originally Posted by hi55us
(Post 32410912)
I booked an Alaska flight with AA miles but I can't seem to get the reservation to pull up on the Alaska website. Tried entering the AA confirmation # and ticket #. Do you need to call in to get the Alaska ticket #?
James |
Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
(Post 32411346)
There will be a record locator for AS that is different than your PNR for AA. If it isn't listed on your confirmation email or online, call AA to get it or try twitter.
James |
Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 32130106)
The hold on the MIA-SFO flight certainly won't be an issue if there are still MileSAAver award seats available on that flight. ;)
For future reference, when these situations occur, it probably is best to put all flights on hold using the multi-city award-booking engine, and then calling AA to ask that the mileage be adjusted to that required for a single award. |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 32301862)
It has had a rule that requires the most direct routing - that implies no backtracking ; what does seem to be the general case is that the fare rules of the governing carrier apply, though there are exceptions that get allowed
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I see from the General Routing Rules for North America to/from Other Regions:
Travel to Asia 1, Asia 2 and the South Pacific must be via the Pacific. When I called the agent about it, he mentioned that it's because that's the shorter route. Makes sense if you're flying from the West Coast cities but for East Coast cities, isn't the Atlantic route usually shorter? Anyone able to have an agent re-consider? |
Originally Posted by trixter
(Post 32649514)
I see from the General Routing Rules for North America to/from Other Regions:
Travel to Asia 1, Asia 2 and the South Pacific must be via the Pacific. When I called the agent about it, he mentioned that it's because that's the shorter route. Makes sense if you're flying from the West Coast cities but for East Coast cities, isn't the Atlantic route usually shorter? Anyone able to have an agent re-consider? Great Circle Mapper |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 32650661)
Agents follow the rules, not make them up on the run. Or make up lame reasons. "Shorter" or "longer" is irrelevant to the rules
Great Circle Mapper Appreciate you showing me GCM, helped me figure out how to draw it the way you did, was always wondering how it was created. Only thing with the example you shared is that it assumes, the person is flying from SFO or NYC direct to HKG. Shouldn't the person from NYC go to SFO first then to HKG which would add another ~2,500 miles? Or do airlines not count the distance flew but rather direct distance per your image? New to all this and appreciate the guidance! |
Originally Posted by trixter
(Post 32649514)
I see from the General Routing Rules for North America to/from Other Regions:
Travel to Asia 1, Asia 2 and the South Pacific must be via the Pacific. When I called the agent about it, he mentioned that it's because that's the shorter route. Makes sense if you're flying from the West Coast cities but for East Coast cities, isn't the Atlantic route usually shorter? Anyone able to have an agent re-consider?
Originally Posted by trixter
(Post 32650690)
Appreciate you showing me GCM, helped me figure out how to draw it the way you did, was always wondering how it was created. Only thing with the example you shared is that it assumes, the person is flying from SFO or NYC direct to HKG. Shouldn't the person from NYC go to SFO first then to HKG which would add another ~2,500 miles? Or do airlines not count the distance flew but rather direct distance per your image? New to all this and appreciate the guidance! |
Originally Posted by trixter
(Post 32650690)
I get they don't just make it up on the fly, just thought it was weird.
Appreciate you showing me GCM, helped me figure out how to draw it the way you did, was always wondering how it was created. Only thing with the example you shared is that it assumes, the person is flying from SFO or NYC direct to HKG. Shouldn't the person from NYC go to SFO first then to HKG which would add another ~2,500 miles? Or do airlines not count the distance flew but rather direct distance per your image? New to all this and appreciate the guidance! Other airlines, like BA, use a more distance based system. But for any award need to understand the rules |
I posted in another thread. The world is divided into three zones.
Zone 1 - Americas Zone 2 - Europe/Africa/ME Zone 3 - Asia/Oceanic You usually (main exception being ME airlines) must go directly from Zone to Zone, not transiting the one inbetween. This is why I can get one 90k J award from DL going Australia to Africa, going SYD-TPE-AMS/CDG-JNB (CI/KL/AF combo) but not SYD-LAX-ATL-JNB without need for 2 awards despite being shorter and all on one airline. There's exceptions, but it's the general rule. |
Originally Posted by flyerCO
(Post 32651230)
You usually (main exception being ME airlines) must go directly from Zone to Zone, not transiting the one inbetween.
Since this is an AA thread: AA divides the world up into more than 3 regions, and has a list of exceptions (mostly involving QR and EY). They do publish the regions and exceptions on their oneworld award chart web page, but I find that it's more scannable to read someone's blog post that has a chart of the exceptions. Here is a View From the Wing post on the exceptions. |
Originally Posted by flyerCO
(Post 32651230)
I posted in another thread. The world is divided into three zones.
Zone 1 - Americas Zone 2 - Europe/Africa/ME Zone 3 - Asia/Oceanic You usually (main exception being ME airlines) must go directly from Zone to Zone, not transiting the one inbetween. This is why I can get one 90k J award from DL going Australia to Africa, going SYD-TPE-AMS/CDG-JNB (CI/KL/AF combo) but not SYD-LAX-ATL-JNB without need for 2 awards despite being shorter and all on one airline. There's exceptions, but it's the general rule. AA does not use these for award routings AA uses the 11 regions as defined on its website at https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...ward-chart.jsp Where exceptions exist, they are not airline dependent I believe; there used to be specific QR exceptions for Middle East, but iirc these are now no longer airline specific |
Just wanted to say on here that in late 2019 I was able to redeem 60K AA miles for LHR-AUH-COK (Cochin, India) for Etihad First Class apartment on the A380. Absolutely the best service I've ever had! LHR Etihad lounge was good, AUH First Class Lounge was excellent. AUH-COK was in Business Class, a short 3-hour redeye on a narrow body. Occasionally they run flat bed seats to India (BOM, DEL) but not much.
Not sure if they are still running A380s on the route, or if awards are available, but if they are I'd recommend it for sure. Just checked on aa.com and I see zero EY long haul flights at all..... Awards were showing available on AA.com in the months prior to me booking it. |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 32655477)
IATA defines the world into 3 Areas
AA does not use these for award routings AA uses the 11 regions as defined on its website at https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...ward-chart.jsp Where exceptions exist, they are not airline dependent I believe; there used to be specific QR exceptions for Middle East, but iirc these are now no longer airline specific Regardless, the main point was that there's a long established reason that generally (there's plenty of exceptions) you can't go US-EU-ASIA on one award, even if that's a shorter/better routing option. |
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