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AA 767-300 / 763 Full Flat Thompson Vantage Business Seat, Best, etc.

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763 / 767 CIP New (2014) Thompson Vantage Business Seat
See post #1 for video demo

AA has carried out a Cabin Improvement Program for all of its 24 remaining 767-323ERs (the non-refitted aircraft have been retired from service. See seat map in post #35. (Rows 2-8, 28 seats J; MCE Rows 12 and 13 in the mini-cabin), and 20 and 21 are still exit rows. The new Business seat is the Thompson Vantage solo seat.

NOTE: Discussion, speculation, routing discussion etc. are in: Renovated 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with New Business Class Apr 2014 (Discussion)


Business cabin seat map:
Code:
 A    D G    J
 2 |0_| |0_0_| |_0| 2
 3 |_0| |_0_0| |0_| 3
 4 |0_| |0_0_| |_0| 4
 5 |_0| |_0_0| |0_| 5
 6 |0_| |0_0_| |_0| 6
 7 |_0| |_0_0| |0_| 7
 8 |0_| |0_0_| |_0| 8
 A    D G    J
 
 Legend: 0 = seat; _ = table
Blocked seats: On longer flights, it appears 8A is blocked for the pilot on rest break

Foot boxes vary, as consoles do. Window seats are best (even numbered rows) and those farther from aisles or center seats (even row G seats) for more spacious foot room.

Link to SeatGuru AA 767-300 v2 seat chart.

Program details:

  • 24 (of the fleet of AAs 58 763 / 767-323ERs have been retained and upgraded with a Cabin Improvement Program through the end of 2015 [9 Dec. 14 AA statement on social media: fourteen refurbished 767-300's with lie flat seats are already in service, with a further 12 scheduled in 2015] - 28 new horizontal lie-flat Thompson Vantage solo business seats, 14 MCE seats (row 11 gets removed as the business cabin is enlarged), and 163 coach / economy (including 14 exit row) seats. Other upgrades include international satellite Wi-Fi (that apparently has been scrapped), 110V AC power outlets in the business cabin (MCE and coach will retain 15V DC cigarette-lighter style power), new overhead monitors and audio systems, and a refurbishment of lavatories and main cabin seats. No personal in-seat video system is being installed - the premium cabin will retain the Samsung Galaxy tablets (docked to seatbacks) on international flights, and the main cabin, as well as the premium cabin on domestic flights, will stay with shared overhead screens.

  • These aircraft are being refurbished for just one reason: the AA/BA/IB/AY transatlantic joint business agreement requires that AA have lie-flat seats for transatlantic routes.

  • Link to FT thread announcing the (Cabin Improvement Program (CIP) refitted Boeing 767-323ER with further details on conversion state, etc.

  • Link to post with artist's rendition of new J cabin. Link to post with new seat maps as they appear in AA.com

  • Link to airchive article including pictures, and Link to mycrewlife blog post with more renderings showing the business cabin.

  • Link to FT Trip Report with images

  • Link to AA's widebody CIP announcement. For 777 upgrades, see thread 777-200ER / 772 No First; New Business Announced 2014 (767 stuff moved).


(The 777-223ERs have their own CIP, the first article trialed the first half of 2014; the 772 CIP is eliminating First and go to fully flat Business similar to the 77W / 777323ER.)


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Old Jun 1, 07, 3:24 pm
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Renovated LAA 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with New Business Class Apr 2014 (Discussion)

<772 related information in 772 CIP thread>

763ERs:
-28 lie-flat J seats
-continued use of Samsung tablets
-14 Main Cabin Extraa seats/167 Main Cabin seats
-retrofit starting in 2014 of HALF of the 763ER fleet

N.B. 773ERs will still get First as planned. 10 will be in service by the end of 2013.
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Boeing 767-300 / 763 Thompson Vantage Business Seat Map, Best Seats

I'm looking at the J class seat map on a few AA64/65 pairs in June. On some dates (e.g. 3 resp. 4 June, 5 resp. 6 June) it shows A/DG/J, starting with row 2 and ending with row 8 (i.e. 7 rows).

Now this looks very much like the new J layout on the 77W. However, the aircraft type shows 763. Also, on the 77W there are many more rows than just the 7 displayed. Also my understanding is that there are no plans to refurbish the 763 planes with new J. So what?

Could it be that it is a 787, which is due to be delivered(?). Or are they actually refurbishing some of the 763 fleet?
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It's like the new J configuration on the 763. AA will be updating some of the 763 fleet.
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As American Airlines is still operating as a distinct entity, this question is being moved over to the pre-merger American Airlines forum.

Please note the sticky at the top of the consolidated thread which is titled Welcome to the New American Airlines Forum! PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING. With all of the changes about, it is important to know where to post, and reading that thread before posting (as the title suggests ) will help get you in the right place.

Please also note that I've updated the thread title to be clear that this is not a rogue 787.

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Originally Posted by swiss_global View Post
I'm looking at the J class seat map on a few AA64/65 pairs in June. On some dates (e.g. 3 resp. 4 June, 5 resp. 6 June) it shows A/DG/J, starting with row 2 and ending with row 8 (i.e. 7 rows).

Now this looks very much like the new J layout on the 77W. However, the aircraft type shows 763. Also, on the 77W there are many more rows than just the 7 displayed. Also my understanding is that there are no plans to refurbish the 763 planes with new J. So what?

Could it be that it is a 787, which is due to be delivered(?). Or are they actually refurbishing some of the 763 fleet?
Which flights are these? DFW-JFK-DFW? A 763?
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Which flights are these? DFW-JFK-DFW? A 763?
It's the JFK-ZRH flights.
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Originally Posted by teemuflyer View Post
Which flights are these? DFW-JFK-DFW? A 763?
DFW-JFK-ZRH vv both carry the AA64/65 flightnumbers. In this case, it's in reference to the JFK-ZRH-JFK portion.
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Originally Posted by swiss_global View Post
Now this looks very much like the new J layout on the 77W. However, the aircraft type shows 763. Also, on the 77W there are many more rows than just the 7 displayed. Also my understanding is that there are no plans to refurbish the 763 planes with new J. So what?
Your understanding is incorrect. In 2012, AA announced that "up to half" of the 763 fleet would get new lie-flat, all-aisle access J seats. Perhaps you've found the seat map for the refurbished 763s.

Originally Posted by swiss_global View Post
Could it be that it is a 787, which is due to be delivered(?). Or are they actually refurbishing some of the 763 fleet?
AA's first 787 isn't due for delivery until late 2014, so if you're looking at a seat map for a June flight, it's not a 787.
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Looks like the new config will have 28 J seats, with 1 row of MCE taken out from the mini section before the lavs and galleys.

While it's nice the number of J seats won't be dramatically reduced, it's unfortunately we're losing some MCE seats. (Especially considering some of the remaining MCE seats are the exit row seats in Row 20 with limited recline.)
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Originally Posted by umaa83 View Post
It's the JFK-ZRH flights.
Originally Posted by Djokison View Post
DFW-JFK-ZRH vv both carry the AA64/65 flightnumbers. In this case, it's in reference to the JFK-ZRH-JFK portion.
Thanks! Makes more sense now
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I wonder what the pilot rest seat is going to be, can't tell from the map right now.
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With the introduction of one or more refurbished 763s, I'm wondering if AA will start blocking the entire Row 11, as they did with Row 10 when they first introduced the 763s with MCE.
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I wonder what the pilot rest seat is going to be, can't tell from the map right now.
My guess is that it will be 8A with a curtain around it, similar to the new pilot rest seat on the existing 763s.
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My guess is that it will be 8A with a curtain around it, similar to the new pilot rest seat on the existing 763s.
Looks like it will be 8A. According to expert flyer it's showing 8A blocked.
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