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What’s next
We plan to bring current Dividend Miles accounts into the AAdvantage program in 2015 (date as yet unspecified - JD). That means we will combine your award mileage balances, your Million Miler™ balances, and your elite-qualifying activity from both programs. In the meantime, continue to book travel and earn miles as you normally would. We will follow up with you when we begin the process of integrating accounts, but rest assured your miles and elite status are safe as we work to combine the two programs.
It will take some time to fully integrate our loyalty programs, including everything from the systems that support them to bringing our terms and conditions in line with one another. We will be sure to keep you updated as changes occur.
We plan to bring current Dividend Miles accounts into the AAdvantage program in 2015 (date as yet unspecified - JD). That means we will combine your award mileage balances, your Million Miler™ balances, and your elite-qualifying activity from both programs. In the meantime, continue to book travel and earn miles as you normally would. We will follow up with you when we begin the process of integrating accounts, but rest assured your miles and elite status are safe as we work to combine the two programs.
It will take some time to fully integrate our loyalty programs, including everything from the systems that support them to bringing our terms and conditions in line with one another. We will be sure to keep you updated as changes occur.
Speculation: New American AAdvantage FF Program Features (Discussion)
Feb 26, 2014, 10:27 pm
#256
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Well, we'll just see as the merger rolls out, won't we? Anything else is speculation, even when it might be informed speculation.
One thing about bankruptcy is AA tried to avoid bankruptcy (probably entirely too long, the way it looks) - it might have provided quite a boost whilst HP and US were using it as a tool to restructure debt.
One thing about bankruptcy is AA tried to avoid bankruptcy (probably entirely too long, the way it looks) - it might have provided quite a boost whilst HP and US were using it as a tool to restructure debt.
I disagree with you on this. They are only adopting American on board product and name because the name is more iconic and well known. American airlines as been run poorly. The CEO taking over is the US Airways CEO... so why would he not adapt his on policy that worked at US.. American policy sure did not work with Bankruptcy ect. I am a Platinum flyer on US Airways and HATE American Airlines. The tier i exist in is not even apart of American current system . I do about 85k a year.
I am hoping that the new American will just carry the American name and looks, but run with Us Airways guts..
I am hoping that the new American will just carry the American name and looks, but run with Us Airways guts..
Feb 27, 2014, 5:02 am
#257
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Saw on the DL forum that no such plan to go revenue-based is in the works at AA, at least for the next 3 years (and no, I don't believe everything I read..). Should AA extend status matching challenge to the DL people like me would make things even more interesting. As a Platinum Medallion with DL, my mileage earnings in 2015 will drop to roughly 60% of what they are currently. Have learned a lot in the UA and AA forums today as i begin shopping for a new airline. UA does not sound like an option as the general consensus is they will follow suit with DL in a matter of hours, not weeks or months.
Feb 27, 2014, 9:56 am
#258
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Ding ding ding! Winner winner chicken dinner! NOT following DL here could become a competitive advantage for AA if they communicate it right.
Feb 27, 2014, 12:44 pm
#259
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I did finally go to DL's site and read over the info on the new program. Found something that I had missed until now - the new miles/dollar spend is only for RDM's. Qualifying for status isn't changing, at least not now. In a sense, the change now makes more sense - reward those who spend more on their tickets with more RDMs for award travel rather than give everyone that flys the same route the same spendable miles regardless of fare paid.
Jim
Jim
Feb 27, 2014, 1:44 pm
#260
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Agree. I wonder how many folks still haven't caught on to that important point.
Safe Travels
Originally Posted by BoeingBoy
I did finally go to DL's site and read over the info on the new program. Found something that I had missed until now - the new miles/dollar spend is only for RDM's. Qualifying for status isn't changing, at least not now. In a sense, the change now makes more sense - reward those who spend more on their tickets with more RDMs for award travel rather than give everyone that flys the same route the same spendable miles regardless of fare paid.
Jim
Jim
Safe Travels
Feb 27, 2014, 2:27 pm
#261
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It does make what I said about Diamonds being able to keep Diamond more easily entirely wrong.
Jim
Jim
Feb 27, 2014, 4:00 pm
#262
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There are still plenty of provisions to screw people out of RDMs. Next year, DL will likely screw them out of MDMs too.
Feb 27, 2014, 5:13 pm
#263
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Diamonds are still required to fly 125k MQM or 140 EQS and spend $12.5k; if you spend $25k on your DL credit card, the MQD amounts are waived. In perspective with current AA practices - 100k EQM, 100k EQP or 100 EQS. (Yep, you probably know - but I am including this for perspective.)
Feb 27, 2014, 5:35 pm
#264
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Speculation: New American AAdvantage FF Program Features (Discussion)
Isn't the new DL program for RDM similar to how miles are awarded for many partner airlines? Your mileage rate is dependent on fare bucket... Except it is more upfront since most pax don't look at fare bucket until less miles post than anticipated.
Feb 27, 2014, 6:42 pm
#265
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Diamonds are still required to fly 125k MQM or 140 EQS and spend $12.5k; if you spend $25k on your DL credit card, the MQD amounts are waived. In perspective with current AA practices - 100k EQM, 100k EQP or 100 EQS. (Yep, you probably know - but I am including this for perspective.)
Jim
Feb 28, 2014, 8:57 am
#266
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It's usually a percentage of the total amount of miles flown. Miles are still tied to the distance rather than the amount spent on the fare.
Feb 28, 2014, 9:21 am
#267
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I hope AA goes revenue based. This is the most logical.
Feb 28, 2014, 9:44 am
#268
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Just wait for status to be revenue based - that's when the real complaints will start. With today's CASM figure on at least 15 cents/mile for bottom status and at least 35 cents/mile for top status.
Jim
Jim
Feb 28, 2014, 9:51 am
#269
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US is famously lousy at providing award inventory on their own metal. AA isn't exactly generous TATL either these days. It's not all beer and skittles in AA-land when it comes to award inventory/generosity, either- the mileage is less but often the cash cost out of pocket for an award is significantly more.
Feb 28, 2014, 9:59 am
#270
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People paying 35cpm typically don't care about status -- they've already purchased all the benefits.