777Pax

I tend to agree. BA even has it's own lounge at DFW Terminal D despite AA's lounges here.

seratonin7

Does AA serve complimentary spirits like UA does, or just beer and wine like US?

gpmHSV

Sure, as long as you don't mind the well brands. AC services and amenities are on their web page:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...miralsClub.jsp

Microwave

Careful, last time I checked the "well" "vodka" was this:

LAXJFKesq

Since we are speculating, how about clubs for the new AA in the following locations:

1. FLL
2. LAS

The new AA will have a significant presence at both these airports. Furthermore, neither airline currently has a club presence at the aforementioned airports.

worldwidedreamer

Part of what I like about PMUS are the small market clubs at airports like BDL, BUF, And GSO. Now...I only once visited the BDL club, but still very much like the idea. I hope that the existing small market clubs continue operations and that other small market cities like SJC, LAS, MKE, MSP, MCI, PDX and SEA are considered for clubs. (Most of these cities support clubs from other airlines.)

PainCorp

Have you ever seen AA's club at SNA? It's tiny. Like not even the size of the tv area at the LAX club.

FWAAA

I disagree. My WAG speculation is that neither airline had quite enough customers in some club-less cities to justify opening a club, but now that new AA is the largest airline in the world, the combined share in some of those cities now justifies a club.

For example, DL built a SkyClub at IND when the new airport opened. There is a mirror-image space available for another club on the opposite side, not far from the AA/US gates, and new AA is huge at IND. Perfect location for a new club that neither US or AA could justify on their own.

Yes, overall, AA had much higher labor costs than US. But when talking about specific workgroups, those generalizations aren't universally true. AA's pilots and FAs were much more highly paid than the US pilots and FAs (until the US FAs finally ratified a raise earlier this year).

But as far as premium service agents go, I believe things may be reversed: US agents are all members of the CWA, while none of AA's agents (including Admirals Club) are unionized. As non-represented employees at will, AA had the upper hand in setting the pay and benefits of its agents. Matter of fact, they took paycuts in bankruptcy, as well as job losses (that's why several marginal lounges closed last year).

If anything, I figure the US clubs employ higher-cost personnel than the AA clubs.

That information would be a lot more useful and valuable had the Star immunized joint ventures admitted US Airways to its reindeer games - but US was forever on the outside looking in. Instead, US was permitted to codeshare and grant reciprocal earn and burn mileage programs for elites. I doubt Parker was privy to much useful data about Star's members.

Agreed. Add to that list IND, CMH, MCO, SEA, IAH, MCI, SMF, DTW and perhaps a few others. Some of them would be green-field locations and others would be reopenings of former Admirals Club locations.

WTH, why not reopen the SJC club, too.

hginPHL

While traveling today on US (as a US Club member), I used the UA Club at SNA. I didn't even occur to me to try the Admiral's Club.

When I got to PHX and entered the US club near A20 they told me when I checked in that we now can use Admiral's Clubs (unsolicited) and handed me a sheet of paper with the locations.

raybo

Not sure if this has been mentioned already but I noticed the US Airways site is now offering 5,000 PQM's for new and renewal club memberships through 5/31/2014


http://www.usairways.com/en-US/trave...b/default.html

bkafrick

This is pretty typical. We (used) to get these offers pretty much every month of the year... They vary from 3000-5000 miles. [yawn]

ty97

FLL and LAS are both leisure and LCC heavy destinations so I wouldn't hold out for a club in either location. Of the two, LAS seems more likely due to the corporation convention traffic.

Crazyhotelguy

MCO is my wish...

AlwaysAisle

Ft. Lauderdale has a large convention center near the port, near the hotel rows on the beach, so FLL can get some convention traffic, also. However, my understanding of convention traffic is that conventions are planned more than a year ahead, where attendees know the date of the event more than a year in advance. Many attendees of conventions can take advantage of advance purchase fare and plan ahead. Not many attendees plan to attend conventions on last minutes and purchase full fare few days before the event. For airlines conventions does not necessary equate to premium fares. Because of that LAS sounds unlikely location for a new lounge.

Beside that US has pretty much shrunk LAS operation, it is not like hub days of America West, isn’t it? I used to live at Los Angeles and remember frequent LAX-LAS and SNA-LAS flights, but pretty much those are gone, isn’t it? Will New AA have that much significant traffic at LAS?

Microwave

I've fingers crossed for SEA, but I don't think there are any suitable lounge spaces out near the end of the D concourse.