JDiver

This is good news. Now as to 777-223ER vs 777-323ER, not so much. DFW-HKG is 8,123 miles / 6,387 nm, range is sufficient, albeit not generous, with full passenger load and sufficient fuel capacity.


And the 772 will be getting the whatever-we-call-them new Business seats (and divested of F) during 2014. The 787, well, we can hope the adage "Good things come to those who wait" is accurate, because we have been patient indeed.

Singapore from DFW will just have to wait for another aircraft, given AA has no LRs on request.


787-8
Seating: 210 to 250 passengers
Range: 7,650 to 8,200 nautical miles (14,200 to 15,200 kilometers)

787-9:
Seating: 250 to 290 passengers
Range: 8,000 to 8,500 nautical miles (14,800 to 15,750 kilometers)

nkedel

BKK-SIN as well, but both that and BKK-DEL are just continuations of flights out of HKG.

DragonAir does have a BKK-PVG flight; not clear if that flight continues to/from HKG.

nkedel

MNL is a very competitive market, so I'm not surprised. The lowest I've seen is about $1700 for Y+, and at a time when the regular Y fares to MNL were under $1000.

PEK is still 772, right? Are there no exit rows or bulkheads available? 772 exit row is better than regular 773 MCE seats (at least unless IFE is a big part of the picture for you.)

Thunderroad

Woo hoo re the new flights, especially Dallas-Hong Kong on the 777W. As an SF-based flyer I wish the flight was from LA, but this still opens up doors for flying AA and its partners more often to Asia and within Asia

Plus you can take a red-eye SFO-DFW if for some reason these options don't work or you want to be extra-sure of making the TPAC flight.

MDWCommuter

There are now 6 daily ORD-NRT trips. AA is 1x daily, UA 2x daily, JL 1x daily, and NH 2x daily. Lots and lots and lots of seats ORD-NRT.

brp

I thought about that as well, but it gets one in too early, IMO. More like 6 hours before. Definite margin, though

We have several trips scheduled on the SFO-DFW redeye so that we can get to the east coast and still have the bulk of that day left. Works well for weekend trips. But here we have like 1 hour connections.

Cheers.

Microwave

There are also a couple of early morning LAX frequencies that would make the cut, though I think the current timing of the first SEA-DFW gets in just a bit too late. In the past this flight also arrived at 11:50 or 11:55, and would also work. 6 AM departures aren't the best, but if it's that or coach on CX I'll wake up early.

EDIT: LAX already mentioned, sorry.

PaulInTheSky

If I have more time and I am so obsessed with the Kobachi or Japanese meals, I will definitely go to JL, AA, NH, or UA to NRT, but heading back is most important especially one of my friends is asking me to get back for her wedding or any dinner meetings. 6p.m. arrival is a perfect time. Anything else (EWR/ORD/NRT/SFO/LAX-HKG) is too late(8p.m.-10:50p.m. for the night) unless you don't mind taking the CX red-eye, which I always try to avoid.

Just for all of you, this will be the longest ULH to HKG in AA history, and among all the US legacy carriers. Can be a signature flight for AA if they can keep it for a long period of time. Just checked, unfortunately it still doesn't break the top 5 even after SQ EWR/LAX-SIN discontinued the non-stop service. Monsters like QF and EK dominated four of the top 5 UHLs. DL has one.

Microwave

Posted upthread and in the Wikipost.

Xero

AA could attempt a 5th freedom route to SIN. But the market is crowded with 6 carriers involved, including CX, SQ and even UA and a 3 LCCs. The distance is about 1500 miles similar to SFO-DFW.

BKK is another option, but then AA finds itself competing with 11 airlines, including CX, RJ and EK. So it likely might be cheaper just to keep the plane on the ground than flying it.

India is a 3rd option for 5th freedom. There is less competition and for O&D, but will the yields be high enough? And which Indian city should it be? CCU would have been great because of it's location in eastern India where local partner 9W could feed domestically to other parts of the country, but too bad the state government of West Bengal caused the city to decline from India's economic powerhouse to nothing.

Finally there is KUL. MH can provide connections beyond.

I have a feeling AA will not do 5th freedom and will likely add another flight from the USA eventually to maximize efficiency if the flight makes money (which I have a feeling it will).

Many FT'ers have been wanting flights to HKG on AA metal. Now the remaining one is TLV.

nkedel

I've done the 12:15 redeye to get to the earlier NRT flight, and the late redeye to make it to the ORD-NRT flight (35 minutes from the arrival first morning flight SF-ORD to 154 ORD-NRT is technically a legal connection, but gives me the creeps especially at delay-prone ORD.)

imapilotaz

Actually keep in mind that AA is planning on doing heavy MX on the 777s in HKG, so my guess is that they will also do A/B (regular line checks) in HKG as well.

nall

Do I see there that some 777s could potentially do HKG-MIA?

CDKing

yep PEK still the 777-200. was able to get exit on the outbound but the only seats taken on the return are exit. I'm hoping to find a Evip swap so i can attempt to get in J. I have only flown intl Y once and that was in UA E+ with empty set of 3 so i dont know how well this is going to go.

N830MH

Yeah, calm down, Spiff. You don't have to yell.

Yes, they will received the first 787-9 Dreamliner sometime in 2014.

Thanks! I can see that now.