Feb 10, 2015, 10:51 am
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Award Ticket and Main Cabin Extra / MCE or Premium Seat
From aa.com:
Award and MCE & Premium Seat FAQ on MCE, on aa.com: Link
On aa.com, FAQ on MCE:
Q: Can I purchase the new seat product if I am traveling on an AAdvantage MileSAAver Award ticket or Business Extra PlanAAhead ticket?
A: Elite status members may select Main Cabin Extra seats when traveling on MileSAAver or PlanAAhead Award tickets. However, Main Cabin Extra is not available for purchase by non-elite customers traveling on MileSAAver or PlanAAhead Award tickets.
Q: Can I purchase the new seat product if I am traveling on an AAdvantage MileSAAver Award ticket or Business Extra PlanAAhead ticket?
A: Elite status members may select Main Cabin Extra seats when traveling on MileSAAver or PlanAAhead Award tickets. However, Main Cabin Extra is not available for purchase by non-elite customers traveling on MileSAAver or PlanAAhead Award tickets.
A: Yes. Main Cabin Extra is complimentary to passengers traveling on AAnytime Award tickets.
On a related note: link
Elite member access (purchased ticket)
Main Cabin Extra seats are complimentary for:
- AAdvantage® Executive Platinum and AAdvantage Platinum members*
- oneworld® Sapphire and oneworld Emerald members*
- Customers who purchase a full-fare Main Cabin ticket
- Alaska Airlines MVP® Gold and MVP® Gold 75K customers*
- *and up to eight traveling companions on the same reservation
- Purchase Main Cabin Extra seats for 50% off or
- Enjoy complimentary access within 24 hours of departure when seats are available
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Award ticket and MCE / Main Cabin Extra or Premium seat: possible? (master thd)
Jun 29, 2016, 7:39 pm
#151
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I seem to recall that there was potentially some issue with flights that should AA charge for the seating , that taxes would become applicable on US journeys, so would need to recalculate taxes as well as the seat fee
Jun 30, 2016, 1:26 am
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FTC Act, unfair/deceptive
Someone replied, asking where is the unfair or deceptive bit.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/board...l/cch/ftca.pdf
Basically, when the customer has no real choice (i.e. effectively the whole industry behaves a certain way and/or there is not real competitive choice in a market), and a promised value is not delivered or is meaningfully reduced (read, pretty much all "loyalty" programs in recent years), it is within the FTC's authority to declare the practice unfair or deceptive.
Except I'm not sure that the FTC (one of the world's most powerful and most active regulators) has competence over air travel; that might be the DOT, which is not a hugely effective regulator.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/board...l/cch/ftca.pdf
Basically, when the customer has no real choice (i.e. effectively the whole industry behaves a certain way and/or there is not real competitive choice in a market), and a promised value is not delivered or is meaningfully reduced (read, pretty much all "loyalty" programs in recent years), it is within the FTC's authority to declare the practice unfair or deceptive.
Except I'm not sure that the FTC (one of the world's most powerful and most active regulators) has competence over air travel; that might be the DOT, which is not a hugely effective regulator.
Jun 30, 2016, 1:28 am
#153
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I respectfully disagree. What the OP (me) wants is to pay for something. What the OP gets is an unexplained, not apparently sensible restriction on being able to give a business more money in return for more service.
That's hardly "OP wants, OP doesn't get, wah wah wah!".
Rather, as I posted, it's "Why would a business reject extra income?" A fairly legitimate business theory question, I believe
That's hardly "OP wants, OP doesn't get, wah wah wah!".
Rather, as I posted, it's "Why would a business reject extra income?" A fairly legitimate business theory question, I believe
Jun 30, 2016, 2:42 am
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Jun 30, 2016, 8:52 am
#155
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Sure, you can maybe make a case concerning the overall changes. But your specific claim that AA's no-buying-MCE-on-award is "unfair and deceptive" baffled me and still does.
I respectfully disagree. What the OP (me) wants is to pay for something. What the OP gets is an unexplained, not apparently sensible restriction on being able to give a business more money in return for more service.
That's hardly "OP wants, OP doesn't get, wah wah wah!".
Rather, as I posted, it's "Why would a business reject extra income?" A fairly legitimate business theory question, I believe
That's hardly "OP wants, OP doesn't get, wah wah wah!".
Rather, as I posted, it's "Why would a business reject extra income?" A fairly legitimate business theory question, I believe
Ok, thanks.
Jul 1, 2016, 1:39 am
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Apologies if I was unclear. My intent was to say that the whole way the airlines are operating loyalty programs might fall into the unfair and/or deceptive area. Not that, specifically, not selling paid upgrades from sh*t award seats to slightly less sh*tty coach seats is unfair or deceptive. (Just sucky :) ). The overall picture.
cheers,
cheers,
Here's the part I don't understand. AA never promised that you could buy MCE on an award ticket.
Sure, you can maybe make a case concerning the overall changes. But your specific claim that AA's no-buying-MCE-on-award is "unfair and deceptive" baffled me and still does.
That's not what you posted. It is a legitimate question, though, and has been given an answer which doesn't support an "unfair and deceptive" view.
Ok, thanks.
Sure, you can maybe make a case concerning the overall changes. But your specific claim that AA's no-buying-MCE-on-award is "unfair and deceptive" baffled me and still does.
That's not what you posted. It is a legitimate question, though, and has been given an answer which doesn't support an "unfair and deceptive" view.
Ok, thanks.
Jul 1, 2016, 2:29 am
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Once new merchandising and a fee can be charged outside of the ticket with a non-ticket (why does the term eVoucher come to mind) then we might see this ability.
Jul 1, 2016, 8:19 am
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This was where:
Oct 19, 2016, 7:38 am
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Just booked an award to LHR and would have gladly paid the extra dollars for a two seat row on the 77W. If its a tax reason, why can Delta figure it out, but not AA?
Nov 2, 2016, 12:07 pm
#164
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MileSAAver - ask or buy MCE / Main Cabin Extra?
Trying to book a First/Business MileSAAver award ticket - on one leg there is no Z inventory right now, so it puts you into coach - that's fine, but I'm curious how this doesn't let you choose MCE (or even Preferred) seats in coach at this award level.
Am I missing something? Seems a bit not-so-cool.
Am I missing something? Seems a bit not-so-cool.
Nov 2, 2016, 12:11 pm
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Trying to book a First/Business MileSAAver award ticket - on one leg there is no Z inventory right now, so it puts you into coach - that's fine, but I'm curious how this doesn't let you choose MCE (or even Preferred) seats in coach at this award level.
Am I missing something? Seems a bit not-so-cool.
Am I missing something? Seems a bit not-so-cool.