Feb 26, 2013, 11:40 am
Last edit by: JDiver
Miles on Qantas / QF codeshare operated by other airlines, EK etc. (consolidated)
aa.com:
Earn miles (on Qantas Airways) Link
Earn elite-qualifying AAdvantage miles when you fly on Qantas marketed and operated flights as well as Qantas Airways codeshare flights. Simply:
Exceptions
Qantas codeshare flights operated by Jetstar are ineligible for any AAdvantage mile accrual or elite credit.
Earn elite-qualifying AAdvantage miles when you fly on Qantas marketed and operated flights as well as Qantas Airways codeshare flights. Simply:
- Buy an eligible published fare ticket booked in an eligible code
- Fly an eligible route
- Specific flights, routes or cities that are excluded from earning miles or award travel are listed as exceptions if applicable.
Qantas codeshare flights operated by Jetstar are ineligible for any AAdvantage mile accrual or elite credit.
"I am happy to say that any flights marketed by Qantas Airlines but operated by another airline, including Etihad Airways, is (sic) eligible to receive miles based on the booking class. The earning requirements would apply as if you were flying on a Qantas Airlines flight. Please visit www.aa.com/qantas to view the accrual chart."
From JonNYC at travelingbetter as of September 2013:
In addition, it's now my belief (and -some- of this was in this thread, but never as confirmed as I now feel we are approaching) here is where I think we are at:
QF
ALL QF #'d flights earn EQP/EQM/EQS, *except* operated by Jetstar (JQ) & Jetstar Asia (3K)
QF
ALL QF #'d flights earn EQP/EQM/EQS, *except* operated by Jetstar (JQ) & Jetstar Asia (3K)
Miles on Qantas / QF codeshare operated by other airlines, EK etc. (consolidated)
Feb 19, 2013, 9:22 pm
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The two examples, flying QF codeshare on FJ and TN, have been discussed previously - and it isn't possible to earn AAdvantage miles on either, unless flying as AA codeshare. (I know because I have flown FJ and TN a number of times and checked, as well as other oneworld marketed flights operated by non-oneworld airlines; my FJ and TN flights flown as AA, OTOH, have resulted in AA EQM / EQP.)
Based on the terms as written, I cannot see any reason whatsoever not to expect to be credited for the QF codeshare
As far as EK goes, it is moot since there is no QF codeshare on EK yet and AA may change the wording before april
Feb 19, 2013, 9:53 pm
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just to add my two cents and a fact..
1) I've sent this specific question (QF flight number, EK operated) over to a contact in customer service. I've asked him to send me an official AA response through the mail channels. Should have it in a day or two.. will post it here.
2) I took a flight in december last year.. BOM-SIN-SYD where BOM-SIN was QF codeshare on 9W (Jet Airways) and I was credited with EQM's..
Now going by logic of microwave, this is supposed to happen as flight was QF flight number and 9W is AA affiliate..
..and going by logic of dave noble, this is supposed to happen as flight was a QF flight number..
hence i've asked the formal question to customer service.. should know in a day or two.. will report back... personally important for me as I'm about to book BOM-DFW and would love to be on EK metal even if that means I lose the mileage credit for BOM-DXB portion..
1) I've sent this specific question (QF flight number, EK operated) over to a contact in customer service. I've asked him to send me an official AA response through the mail channels. Should have it in a day or two.. will post it here.
2) I took a flight in december last year.. BOM-SIN-SYD where BOM-SIN was QF codeshare on 9W (Jet Airways) and I was credited with EQM's..
Now going by logic of microwave, this is supposed to happen as flight was QF flight number and 9W is AA affiliate..
..and going by logic of dave noble, this is supposed to happen as flight was a QF flight number..
hence i've asked the formal question to customer service.. should know in a day or two.. will report back... personally important for me as I'm about to book BOM-DFW and would love to be on EK metal even if that means I lose the mileage credit for BOM-DXB portion..
Feb 19, 2013, 10:37 pm
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just to add my two cents and a fact..
1) I've sent this specific question (QF flight number, EK operated) over to a contact in customer service. I've asked him to send me an official AA response through the mail channels. Should have it in a day or two.. will post it here.
2) I took a flight in december last year.. BOM-SIN-SYD where BOM-SIN was QF codeshare on 9W (Jet Airways) and I was credited with EQM's..
Now going by logic of microwave, this is supposed to happen as flight was QF flight number and 9W is AA affiliate..
..and going by logic of dave noble, this is supposed to happen as flight was a QF flight number..
1) I've sent this specific question (QF flight number, EK operated) over to a contact in customer service. I've asked him to send me an official AA response through the mail channels. Should have it in a day or two.. will post it here.
2) I took a flight in december last year.. BOM-SIN-SYD where BOM-SIN was QF codeshare on 9W (Jet Airways) and I was credited with EQM's..
Now going by logic of microwave, this is supposed to happen as flight was QF flight number and 9W is AA affiliate..
..and going by logic of dave noble, this is supposed to happen as flight was a QF flight number..
Feb 19, 2013, 11:15 pm
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Based on microwave's logic which seems to me to be that only QF marketed and operated flights are eligable for EQMs and that codeshares are only eligable for miles, then the 9W flight marketed by QF would only be eligable for spending miles especially since a 9W marketed and operated flight would not accrue EQMs
Feb 19, 2013, 11:18 pm
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9W is not an airline on which EQMs would normally be earned though if crediting directly a 9W flight to AA
Feb 19, 2013, 11:33 pm
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Feb 20, 2013, 6:28 am
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.. apparently EK QF codeshare agreement doesnt extend to USA.. it appears to cover Asia, Europe and northern africa and Australian continent ...
Feb 20, 2013, 6:59 pm
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Potential gem? AA occasionally messes up in how it credits (or may fail to credit) miles. In this instance, I still feel no EQM are to be had. Possibly redeemable miles. Until we hear the definitive statement from AA, that assumption would govern my behavior.
Feb 20, 2013, 7:27 pm
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The wording
Travel on Qantas and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
does not say Qantas marketed and operated
and is the same wording as for AA which states
Travel on American Airlines and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
An AA codeshare on any airline is treated as an AA flight, why would not the same policy apply to Qantas?
Feb 20, 2013, 11:11 pm
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However you still dont get EQM or indeed even miles if you are on the QF codeshare on TN as I have experienced not so long ago.So it would still be possible that AA could make QF codeshares on EK metal non earning as there is,allbeit 1 out of many, a precedent.
Though I would certainly hope that as AA also is eeking a closer arrangement with EK that the decision will be allowing the QF codeshares to earn both miles and EQM.
Though I would certainly hope that as AA also is eeking a closer arrangement with EK that the decision will be allowing the QF codeshares to earn both miles and EQM.
Feb 20, 2013, 11:13 pm
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Feb 21, 2013, 3:41 am
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Again my view of the wording on this link - http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codes...asAirlines.jsp
MARKETED and OPERATED --- pretty clear.
Click the codeshare link, then Qantas and it goes to this page:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codes...asAirlines.jsp
Which makes it clear that this is AA codeshares on QF metal.
Defining what QF metal is - look to the RHS side and it lists QantasLink and Jetconnect
This is the confusing bit as it talks about a QF codeshare on JQ metal - I actually think this should be an exception to the third point, effectively counting JQ as an affiliate but only in these circumstances.
Earn miles when flying on Qantas Airways marketed and operated flights for travel on an eligible published fare ticket.
Miles are also earned on Qantas Airways codeshare flights*.
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codes...asAirlines.jsp
Which makes it clear that this is AA codeshares on QF metal.
Travel on Qantas and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.
*Travel on codeshare flights marketed by Qantas Airways (booked under a QF flight number) and operated by Jetstar Airways only earn miles when the customer is traveling on oneworld Explorer Fare.
Feb 21, 2013, 2:19 pm
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