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FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)

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(ex-Air Pacific)

NOTE: AA seems not to be able to see FJ award inventory. Try calling AA Australia (+61 2-9101-1948 ) then press 4 - or the New Zealand number (+64 09-308-4014) as an alternative - although the call center is actually in Suva, Fiji (I believe it's our old South African agency friend Mindpearl) - as they can see the inventory reliably, and you can book. Or, put the FJ segments on hold so you can flesh out the award afterward and/or pay the fees in USD through the US call center.

Air Pacific (46% Qantas owned, 51% Fiji government owned) rebranded as Fiji Airways (as of June 2013 - follow the topic and changes here: Air Pacific becoming Fiji Airways (again) & securing three A330-200s (2013) in the Other Asian, Australian and South Pacific Frequent Flyer Programs. In 2016, an A330-300 initiated service NAN-LAX, and in 2017 NAN-SFO.

New aircraft, configuration, new baggage limits etc. for 2016 are in this FT thread.

Fiji Airways is still an AA partner (as well as a codeshare partner of AS, CX, EY, IE, NZ and QF). The partnership has not changed - one earns redeemable (Award) AA miles flying as FJ, AA EQ miles can be earned if flown as AA or QF codeshares (often more expensive); no EQ miles if flown as AS or CX codeshares (as FJ is not a oneworld member).

Business (née Tambua) Class in both (three) A330-200 and (one) -300: 24 Zodiac / Weber 7811 8 degree from horizontal angled lie-flats with A/C and USB, 15.4" screen with Panasonic eX2 AVOD in 2 x 2 x 2 configuration. (The SQ leased 747 offered 28 Tabua seats - not much of a loss here.)

Economy (née Pacific Voyager) Class: 249 (289 in-300) Weber 5751 slim-line with IFE, A/C and USB power in a 2 x 4 x 2 configuration with 31-32" pitch and 7.5" total recline (6" seat back movement, 1.5" seat base movement) and 9" Panasonic touchscreen AVOD with controls in the seatback (not armrest). (747 offered 430 with 32" in Pacific Voyager, a major seat capacity reduction.)

Starting your trip in Nadi in. Business Class you will be able to access the new Fiji Airways Premier Lounge (but as FJ is not a oneworld airline, status alone won’t get you in).

"Bula", pronounced mboo-lah, short for "ni sa bula", merely is the typical Fijian "hello" and "welcome"; it's not a class of service. Fiji Airways Premier Lounge is the name for their NAN lounge and VIP club; it is costly and bureaucratically challenging to join - but if you're flying FJ a lot, it offers an additional checked in bag, lounge access and other perqs.[/quote]

Resource links:

Link to aa.com page on earning / spending miles on Fiji Airways (may still be referred to as "Air Pacific" on some parts of aa.com)

Link to Fiji Airways new website

Link to Fiji Airways route map

Link to Fiji Airways fleet information

Link to Fiji Airways baggage allowance tables

Link to rebranding article showcasing new appearance, symbology, etc.

Link to A330-200 seat diagram (PDF document)

The USA will see Fiji Airways A330-300 flight to Los Angeles on January 2016. See Link[/B][/U] to article with photos; link to page with information, photos and video (Australian Business Traveller). And FJ serves SFO on select days.

Link to Airline Reporter illustrated article on the new Fiji Airways A330-200 product.
Code:
OUR FLEET
 Fiji Airways flights are available on modern Boeing and Airbus 
 aircraft, ranging from the 122 seat 737-700 to the brand new 
 A330-200 seating 273. Passengers will enjoy the comfort of our 
 modern fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft, or one of the new Airbus 
 A330-200 aircraft (and new A330-300).
 
 Boeing 737-700 (one)
 Total capacity: 122
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 114 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 29-32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Boeing 737-800 (five, adding three more)
 Total capacity: 164
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 156 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Airbus A330-200 (three)
 Total capacity: 273
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 249 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 Airbus A330-300 (one)
 Total capacity: 313
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 289 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 De Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otters Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 12
 
 ATR 42-500 Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 42
”On May 2, 2019. Fiji Airways announced its intention to lease 2 Airbus A350-900 as a part of their fleet expansion, these will operate routes to Australia, New Zealand and The United States of America . They will be delivered between November and December 2019. They have been leased from Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.[14] These A350 frames were supposedly going to be delivered to Hong Kong Airlines however following the cancellation of their order,they were purchased by Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.” — Wikipedia
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Old Aug 26, 15, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Bula! Two awards? What rationale did they offer for that? It should be two NA-S PAC North America - South Pacific awards, full stop, without ripping you off for 50,000 more miles, AFAIK!
Yeah I'll call and see.
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Old Sep 17, 15, 11:48 am
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FJ / Air Fiji: LAX-NAN or v.v. Award space starting June

I could have posted this in the AS area also... but anyways, looks like Fiji is restricting award space on the LAX flights, both outbound and return, starting June and continuing through July and August. Wide open pretty much all of Mar Apr and May 2016. Just checking if this was their annual practice. Do they open back up in September?

We will be looking for availability for late Aug next year so just planning ahead.

Note that HNL-NAN and v.v. is also wide open through August, so it's just the LAX flights they are restricting.

I understand that some award routings (but not all, depending on published fare restrictions) via Australia are allowed on one single 37.5K Econ award so that is the backup.
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Old Sep 17, 15, 12:07 pm
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Posted in the wrong forum; AAdvantage has been a combined program as of March 2015 (see ANNOUNCEMENT in each forum for guidance). We will move and merge as appropriate.

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Old Sep 17, 15, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by gq_dq View Post
I could have posted this in the AS area also... but anyways, looks like Fiji is restricting award space on the LAX flights, both outbound and return, starting June and continuing through July and August. Wide open pretty much all of Mar Apr and May 2016. Just checking if this was their annual practice. Do they open back up in September?

We will be looking for availability for late Aug next year so just planning ahead.

Note that HNL-NAN and v.v. is also wide open through August, so it's just the LAX flights they are restricting.

I understand that some award routings (but not all, depending on published fare restrictions) via Australia are allowed on one single 37.5K Econ award so that is the backup.
Are they actually restricting awards? Or are they not releasing awards early out because of revenue management predictions of high revenue loads? The latter is typical airline practice; those months are higher traffic from the U. S. (and they have capacity restrictions since they returned their leased 747-400s and began operating A330s.
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Old Sep 17, 15, 4:25 pm
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Are they actually restricting awards? Or are they not releasing awards early out
Precisely what I'm also trying to determine... whether based on past experience, folks have noticed that they in fact do open up LAX space for the summer at a later time, or if summer to/from LAX is a de facto blackout period without FJ formally acknowledging it as such.

It isn't lost on me that Sunburn644 also only found HNL availability for next July.
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Old Sep 17, 15, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by gq_dq View Post
Precisely what I'm also trying to determine... whether based on past experience, folks have noticed that they in fact do open up LAX space for the summer at a later time, or if summer to/from LAX is a de facto blackout period without FJ formally acknowledging it as such.

It isn't lost on me that Sunburn644 also only found HNL availability for next July.
Award seats LAX-NAN are hot commodities; they might have all been taken up, or their RM might be holding back. I'm not sure how we could tell.

But I've been on some sold out flights that left people on the ground at that time of year.
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Old Sep 18, 15, 12:02 pm
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But I've been on some sold out flights that left people on the ground at that time of year.
Then I suppose the question becomes this: "Has anyone been able to secure (Economy) award space on the LAX-NAN non-stop in any August since the deployment of the A330 / re-branding to Fiji Airways!"
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Old Oct 3, 15, 5:38 pm
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Booked LAX-NAN-AKL - said could not include DEN-LAX on same ticket

So I (shockingly) was able to book two biz class tickets LAX-NAN-AKL in April. The agent said that she was unable to include the DEN-LAX portion without additional miles. Is this right? Do I need to call back and insist?

Also, what are the rules on stopovers? We'd love a couple day stop over in NAN if possible. The agent said that would cost additional miles.
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Old Oct 3, 15, 8:26 pm
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So I (shockingly) was able to book two biz class tickets LAX-NAN-AKL in April. The agent said that she was unable to include the DEN-LAX portion without additional miles. Is this right? Do I need to call back and insist?

Also, what are the rules on stopovers? We'd love a couple day stop over in NAN if possible. The agent said that would cost additional miles.
1) Air Fiji would have to offer an unconstructed fare between DEN and AKL for you to use only one award on that trip; insisting would not help.

2) Awards do not allow stopovers; to remain in Fiji longer than 23:59 you would have to split the award. I'm afraid there's not so much to do in the vicinity of Nadi, though there is some diving not far (but anyone flying on would certainly not be diving), some hiking and raft or kayak trips, etc.

Now if I did have a late afternoon / evening long connection, I would take a taxi into Nadi town and dine at the very nice Chef's, the Restaurant (if it's still open) or Flavio's. If I had a significant layover and wanted to purchase Fijian souvenirs, I'd taxi to Jack's of Fiji. (Both venues are owned by the same family, as is another nearby OK restaurant, The Edge café, that serves mostly Indian food, and shop outlets in Suva, the capital, and elsewhere.)

Jack's of Fiji: http://www.jacksfiji.com/aboutus.cfm
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Old Oct 7, 15, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by gq_dq View Post
Then I suppose the question becomes this: "Has anyone been able to secure (Economy) award space on the LAX-NAN non-stop in any August since the deployment of the A330 / re-branding to Fiji Airways!"
FJ just started releasing award inventory for Sep 2016 on the non-stop both ways with zilch in Jul and Aug (and most of June). So looks like those looking for Jul and Aug space from LAX will be SOL.
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Old Oct 8, 15, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by gq_dq View Post
Precisely what I'm also trying to determine... whether based on past experience, folks have noticed that they in fact do open up LAX space for the summer at a later time, or if summer to/from LAX is a de facto blackout period without FJ formally acknowledging it as such.

It isn't lost on me that Sunburn644 also only found HNL availability for next July.
Yes I would have preferred routing through LAX (and flying J on the A330 lie flats ) but another 22 hours in Hawaii isnt so bad...

The agent couldnt see anything into LAX
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Old Nov 9, 15, 8:52 pm
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Just out of curiosity... I wanted to book HKG-SYD-AKL-NAN-CXI in business for 35k miles, but two agents told me it would have to be two awards as there is no published through fare for HKG-CXI. In the end, I only booked HKG-SYD-AKL-NAN for the 35k, and will decide whether to visit CXI later. Idly browsing the Fiji Airways website, however, I can put in HKG-CXI and it'll offer me a fare, both ways, all on Fiji Airways metal. As a former USDM member, where "published through fares" didn't seem to matter on long distance awards, can anyone say whether the agents were correct? Would I need to be on Fiji Airways metal all the way for the 35k award, or should it actually be acceptable using my booked CX-LA-FJ routing.

P.S. Still no luck getting any agents to find ANY Fiji Link flights with availability
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Old Nov 21, 15, 4:48 pm
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I have a confirmed AAdvantage award a one way NAN to LAX on May 30, 2016. I have an AA record locator and called FJ and they informed me I cannot select me seats ahead of check in without the FJ information- is this new or a standard operating procedure?

I then got the FJ record locator and called back up and they still cannot do advance seat assignments on non FJ booked tickets as of October 31, 2015 I was informed.

Is there any hope for an advance seat selection or am i out of luck on this one?
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Old Nov 30, 15, 5:18 pm
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A follow up to my post above. I called back today to see if I could book another ticket on my same itin (LAX-NAN-AUK, AUK-SYD-NAN-LAX). They had availability in coach on the outbound and biz on the return. So that's three AA awards on Air Fiji on the same flights and routing!

Earlier I was unable to book the DEN-LAX portion as Air Fiji did not publish a fare. Well, the agent today asked me if I wanted to add the US domestic portion. So no I've got that added to all three tickets. Not sure what happened there and am so glad something did so I don't have to buy the domestic hops.

All in all, I've heard that US-NZ is almost impossible to book. I've had a great experience and feel really lucky! Now if only AA allowed a stopover in NAN!
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Old Nov 30, 15, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by cohighcountry1k View Post
... if only AA allowed a stopover in NAN!
You could treat yourself to one for a pretty tiny amount (especially in economy) of miles-- the miles don't get any more valuable over time!

Congrats in any case, glad it all worked out so well!
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