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FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)

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(ex-Air Pacific)

NOTE: AA seems not to be able to see FJ award inventory. Try calling AA Australia (+61 2-9101-1948 ) then press 4 - or the New Zealand number (+64 09-308-4014) as an alternative - although the call center is actually in Suva, Fiji (I believe it's our old South African agency friend Mindpearl) - as they can see the inventory reliably, and you can book. Or, put the FJ segments on hold so you can flesh out the award afterward and/or pay the fees in USD through the US call center.

Air Pacific (46% Qantas owned, 51% Fiji government owned) rebranded as Fiji Airways (as of June 2013 - follow the topic and changes here: Air Pacific becoming Fiji Airways (again) & securing three A330-200s (2013) in the Other Asian, Australian and South Pacific Frequent Flyer Programs. In 2016, an A330-300 initiated service NAN-LAX, and in 2017 NAN-SFO.

New aircraft, configuration, new baggage limits etc. for 2016 are in this FT thread.

Fiji Airways is still an AA partner (as well as a codeshare partner of AS, CX, EY, IE, NZ and QF). The partnership has not changed - one earns redeemable (Award) AA miles flying as FJ, AA EQ miles can be earned if flown as AA or QF codeshares (often more expensive); no EQ miles if flown as AS or CX codeshares (as FJ is not a oneworld member).

Business (née Tambua) Class in both (three) A330-200 and (one) -300: 24 Zodiac / Weber 7811 8 degree from horizontal angled lie-flats with A/C and USB, 15.4" screen with Panasonic eX2 AVOD in 2 x 2 x 2 configuration. (The SQ leased 747 offered 28 Tabua seats - not much of a loss here.)

Economy (née Pacific Voyager) Class: 249 (289 in-300) Weber 5751 slim-line with IFE, A/C and USB power in a 2 x 4 x 2 configuration with 31-32" pitch and 7.5" total recline (6" seat back movement, 1.5" seat base movement) and 9" Panasonic touchscreen AVOD with controls in the seatback (not armrest). (747 offered 430 with 32" in Pacific Voyager, a major seat capacity reduction.)

Starting your trip in Nadi in. Business Class you will be able to access the new Fiji Airways Premier Lounge (but as FJ is not a oneworld airline, status alone won’t get you in).

"Bula", pronounced mboo-lah, short for "ni sa bula", merely is the typical Fijian "hello" and "welcome"; it's not a class of service. Fiji Airways Premier Lounge is the name for their NAN lounge and VIP club; it is costly and bureaucratically challenging to join - but if you're flying FJ a lot, it offers an additional checked in bag, lounge access and other perqs.[/quote]

Resource links:

Link to aa.com page on earning / spending miles on Fiji Airways (may still be referred to as "Air Pacific" on some parts of aa.com)

Link to Fiji Airways new website

Link to Fiji Airways route map

Link to Fiji Airways fleet information

Link to Fiji Airways baggage allowance tables

Link to rebranding article showcasing new appearance, symbology, etc.

Link to A330-200 seat diagram (PDF document)

The USA will see Fiji Airways A330-300 flight to Los Angeles on January 2016. See Link[/B][/U] to article with photos; link to page with information, photos and video (Australian Business Traveller). And FJ serves SFO on select days.

Link to Airline Reporter illustrated article on the new Fiji Airways A330-200 product.
Code:
OUR FLEET
 Fiji Airways flights are available on modern Boeing and Airbus 
 aircraft, ranging from the 122 seat 737-700 to the brand new 
 A330-200 seating 273. Passengers will enjoy the comfort of our 
 modern fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft, or one of the new Airbus 
 A330-200 aircraft (and new A330-300).
 
 Boeing 737-700 (one)
 Total capacity: 122
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 114 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 29-32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Boeing 737-800 (five, adding three more)
 Total capacity: 164
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 156 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Airbus A330-200 (three)
 Total capacity: 273
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 249 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 Airbus A330-300 (one)
 Total capacity: 313
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 289 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 De Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otters Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 12
 
 ATR 42-500 Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 42
”On May 2, 2019. Fiji Airways announced its intention to lease 2 Airbus A350-900 as a part of their fleet expansion, these will operate routes to Australia, New Zealand and The United States of America . They will be delivered between November and December 2019. They have been leased from Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.[14] These A350 frames were supposedly going to be delivered to Hong Kong Airlines however following the cancellation of their order,they were purchased by Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.” — Wikipedia
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Old Jan 22, 15, 4:55 pm
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I was afraid of that. Thanks for the verification!
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Old Feb 1, 15, 2:22 pm
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AA Elite Qualifying Miles on Fiji Airways?

I'm in need of some quick help; I have an hour left in my cancellation window! I booked travel on Fiji Airways; the fare class is V. I thought that would allow me to accrue elite qualifying miles with AA, but I'm now worried that it will only earn me redeemable miles. Does anyone know whether I'll earn AA elite qualifying miles?
Outbound: LAX - NAN - SYD
Return: SYD - NAN - LAX

Thanks!!
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Old Feb 1, 15, 2:34 pm
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No EQM. You'll earn only RDM on Fiji.
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...ijiAirways.jsp
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Old Feb 1, 15, 2:42 pm
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Well shoot. That's a bummer. Time to get on the phone and cancel this reservation. Thanks for the quick help!

Follow up: I also have travel scheduled to Australia on Qantas. I booked through Qantas in the appropriate fare codes for AA EQM. Is there anything I've missed to make sure these flights are elite qualifying?
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Old Feb 1, 15, 3:01 pm
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Same as what was mentioned above...use the charts that AA has published and you'll be fine.

Here's the chart for Qantas: http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/qantas.jsp

Remember, if you book an AA flight number, you'll earn mile just like an AA flight. If you book a Qantas flight number, you'll need to refer to the partner chart.

Happy trails!
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Old Feb 1, 15, 3:17 pm
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Thanks for the response. Yeah, I've been referring to those charts and am booked in fare classes that accrue at 100% on Qantas (B, Y, T), but just want to be positive those are elite qualifying even though I booked on the Qantas website and my ticket has QF flight numbers. I had thought that booking through Fiji in the correct fare classes would earn EQM; since that doesn't appear to be the case, I just want to double check on the Qantas itinerary. Thanks, everyone!
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Old Feb 1, 15, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by thecurtisw View Post
Well shoot. That's a bummer. Time to get on the phone and cancel this reservation. Thanks for the quick help!

Follow up: I also have travel scheduled to Australia on Qantas. I booked through Qantas in the appropriate fare codes for AA EQM. Is there anything I've missed to make sure these flights are elite qualifying?
We've merged your query into the existing thread. /Moderator

On Fiji Airways you can book Qantas or AA codeshare; those would earn AA miles. The Air Fiji chart doesn't say the miles you earn are EQ, and FJ isn't a oneworld partner. RDM only flying them as FJ. The legend on the FJ AA miles accrual page says:

Earn miles when flying on Fiji Airways marketed and operated flights for travel on an eligible published fare ticket. Miles are also earned on Fiji Airways codeshare flights operated by American Airlines.
What it doesn't say is they are Elite Qualifying.

As to Qantas be sure your fares appear on the chart here. As QF is a oneworld partner, those will be EQM (other than the bonus miles). But be sure you're looking at the chart entitled "Effective for flights flown on/after February 1, 2015". The QF miles page shows:

Travel on Qantas and affiliate airlines counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership.

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Old Feb 1, 15, 11:17 pm
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We've merged your query into the existing thread. /Moderator


What it doesn't say is they are Elite Qualifying.

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Thanks for that thorough response; very helpful! When you say, "What it doesn't say is they are Elite Qualifying," does that mean they ARE elite qualifying? Or since it doesn't say it, they ARE NOT elite qualifying?
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Thanks for that thorough response; very helpful! When you say, "What it doesn't say is they are Elite Qualifying," does that mean they ARE elite qualifying? Or since it doesn't say it, they ARE NOT elite qualifying?
When it says "counts toward qualifying for AAdvantage elite status membership" you get EQM. If it doesn't mention that, as on the FJ page, it's redeemable miles but not EQ.
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Old Feb 3, 15, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by thecurtisw View Post
I'm in need of some quick help; I have an hour left in my cancellation window! I booked travel on Fiji Airways; the fare class is V. I thought that would allow me to accrue elite qualifying miles with AA, but I'm now worried that it will only earn me redeemable miles. Does anyone know whether I'll earn AA elite qualifying miles?
Outbound: LAX - NAN - SYD
Return: SYD - NAN - LAX

Thanks!!
You will NOT earn EQMs.
I hope you found this out before cxl.

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Old Feb 9, 15, 12:34 am
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Yeah, thanks to this forum, I got it figured out and cancelled my flights before the 24hr window closed. I would have been extremely upset at myself if I hadn't caught the lack of any mention of EQM and hadn't looked into it. I'm now flying CX. I'm pretty happy about the extra EQM routing through HKG instead of directly to SYD!
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Has anyone been able to book award flights operated by Fiji Link? FJ makes domestic Fiji award space available on Fiji Link under a codeshare, but AA agents tell me they can't book it as part of an AA award.

The space is searchable on QF like all other FJ space.
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Old Feb 23, 15, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by AwardBee View Post
Has anyone been able to book award flights operated by Fiji Link? FJ makes domestic Fiji award space available on Fiji Link under a codeshare, but AA agents tell me they can't book it as part of an AA award.

The space is searchable on QF like all other FJ space.
Tried with no luck either
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Old May 23, 15, 8:37 pm
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Earning AA miles flying Air Fiji

Hi,

I found this web page http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...ijiAirways.jsp

but can't really make head or tail of it.

Is it saying if you fly Air Fiji you can earn AA miles or is it saying its the other way around?


Thanks!
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Old May 23, 15, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by inpd View Post
Is it saying if you fly Air Fiji you can earn AA miles or is it saying its the other way around?
Bula!

Yes.
(if you are of a civilised and educated culture)
(silly question!!)

Heads, tails, tails, heads, both, all.
(If you suffered induction in this world in USAmerican culture).

Good people, Air Fiji.
Good air, Fiji people.
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