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FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)

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(ex-Air Pacific)

NOTE: AA seems not to be able to see FJ award inventory. Try calling AA Australia (+61 2-9101-1948 ) then press 4 - or the New Zealand number (+64 09-308-4014) as an alternative - although the call center is actually in Suva, Fiji (I believe it's our old South African agency friend Mindpearl) - as they can see the inventory reliably, and you can book. Or, put the FJ segments on hold so you can flesh out the award afterward and/or pay the fees in USD through the US call center.

Air Pacific (46% Qantas owned, 51% Fiji government owned) rebranded as Fiji Airways (as of June 2013 - follow the topic and changes here: Air Pacific becoming Fiji Airways (again) & securing three A330-200s (2013) in the Other Asian, Australian and South Pacific Frequent Flyer Programs. In 2016, an A330-300 initiated service NAN-LAX, and in 2017 NAN-SFO.

New aircraft, configuration, new baggage limits etc. for 2016 are in this FT thread.

Fiji Airways is still an AA partner (as well as a codeshare partner of AS, CX, EY, IE, NZ and QF). The partnership has not changed - one earns redeemable (Award) AA miles flying as FJ, AA EQ miles can be earned if flown as AA or QF codeshares (often more expensive); no EQ miles if flown as AS or CX codeshares (as FJ is not a oneworld member).

Business (née Tambua) Class in both (three) A330-200 and (one) -300: 24 Zodiac / Weber 7811 8 degree from horizontal angled lie-flats with A/C and USB, 15.4" screen with Panasonic eX2 AVOD in 2 x 2 x 2 configuration. (The SQ leased 747 offered 28 Tabua seats - not much of a loss here.)

Economy (née Pacific Voyager) Class: 249 (289 in-300) Weber 5751 slim-line with IFE, A/C and USB power in a 2 x 4 x 2 configuration with 31-32" pitch and 7.5" total recline (6" seat back movement, 1.5" seat base movement) and 9" Panasonic touchscreen AVOD with controls in the seatback (not armrest). (747 offered 430 with 32" in Pacific Voyager, a major seat capacity reduction.)

Starting your trip in Nadi in. Business Class you will be able to access the new Fiji Airways Premier Lounge (but as FJ is not a oneworld airline, status alone won’t get you in).

"Bula", pronounced mboo-lah, short for "ni sa bula", merely is the typical Fijian "hello" and "welcome"; it's not a class of service. Fiji Airways Premier Lounge is the name for their NAN lounge and VIP club; it is costly and bureaucratically challenging to join - but if you're flying FJ a lot, it offers an additional checked in bag, lounge access and other perqs.[/quote]

Resource links:

Link to aa.com page on earning / spending miles on Fiji Airways (may still be referred to as "Air Pacific" on some parts of aa.com)

Link to Fiji Airways new website

Link to Fiji Airways route map

Link to Fiji Airways fleet information

Link to Fiji Airways baggage allowance tables

Link to rebranding article showcasing new appearance, symbology, etc.

Link to A330-200 seat diagram (PDF document)

The USA will see Fiji Airways A330-300 flight to Los Angeles on January 2016. See Link[/B][/U] to article with photos; link to page with information, photos and video (Australian Business Traveller). And FJ serves SFO on select days.

Link to Airline Reporter illustrated article on the new Fiji Airways A330-200 product.
Code:
OUR FLEET
 Fiji Airways flights are available on modern Boeing and Airbus 
 aircraft, ranging from the 122 seat 737-700 to the brand new 
 A330-200 seating 273. Passengers will enjoy the comfort of our 
 modern fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft, or one of the new Airbus 
 A330-200 aircraft (and new A330-300).
 
 Boeing 737-700 (one)
 Total capacity: 122
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 114 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 29-32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Boeing 737-800 (five, adding three more)
 Total capacity: 164
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 156 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Airbus A330-200 (three)
 Total capacity: 273
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 249 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 Airbus A330-300 (one)
 Total capacity: 313
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 289 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 De Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otters Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 12
 
 ATR 42-500 Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 42
”On May 2, 2019. Fiji Airways announced its intention to lease 2 Airbus A350-900 as a part of their fleet expansion, these will operate routes to Australia, New Zealand and The United States of America . They will be delivered between November and December 2019. They have been leased from Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.[14] These A350 frames were supposedly going to be delivered to Hong Kong Airlines however following the cancellation of their order,they were purchased by Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.” — Wikipedia
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Old Dec 4, 13, 6:24 pm
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Bula! You can not earn EQ miles or points on FJ unless you purchase it as an AA codeshare. USA AMEX Platinum Members Lose Access to Admirals Club/US Airways Lounges 22 Mar 2014"]Link [/URL][/B]to aa.com page on Fiji Airways. (Nor can you if you fly it as a QF codeshare, as FJ is not a oneworld carrier, nor is there an exception.)

You are likely seeing the lowest available fare buckets on FJ sold by FJ, and AA is not selling those.

Originally Posted by BrianV View Post
Sorry to revive this, I'm trying to read through this, but I purchase a flight directly from fijiairways.com, it does say points earned on AA. Does this include EQM? I thought I read somewhere else that the flight had to be booked as an AA Codeshare to get EQM, but now I can't find anything on that. Regrettably, aa.com and fijiairways.com prices for the same flights are significantly different.
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Old Dec 4, 13, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Bula! You can not earn EQ miles or points on FJ unless you purchase it as an AA codeshare. USA AMEX Platinum Members Lose Access to Admirals Club/US Airways Lounges 22 Mar 2014"]Link [/URL][/B]to aa.com page on Fiji Airways. (Nor can you if you fly it as a QF codeshare, as FJ is not a oneworld carrier, nor is there an exception.) ...
I was under the impression that QF codeshares (as a result of the Emirates tie-up) now had universal exceptions. That is, if it is QF flight number, it will credit to AA. Note that most of the QF discount Y fare classes don't credit very much...

Happy wandering

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Old Dec 4, 13, 7:19 pm
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Thanks! I knew that was true for EK, but I think one should check the QF Forum for QF rules regarding miles earning for QF; that would be a bonus if it di,d , though as you say, not always. Whether it will credit to AA, that's not a question I can answer - my previous experiences on FJ did not credit to AA when flown as QF in Tabua (Business) class.

Originally Posted by wandering_fred View Post
I was under the impression that QF codeshares (as a result of the Emirates tie-up) now had universal exceptions. That is, if it is QF flight number, it will credit to AA. Note that most of the QF discount Y fare classes don't credit very much...

Happy wandering

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Old Dec 10, 13, 4:36 pm
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Anyone see award space between SYD - NAN? Any method of booking this?
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Old Dec 10, 13, 8:06 pm
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I just recently flew LAX-NAN-SYD. Had to call AA to book. I had no problem getting 2 seats in J and changing the dates a couple of times.
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Old Dec 11, 13, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by footastic View Post
Anyone see award space between SYD - NAN? Any method of booking this?
If you join QFF (free membership for US residents) then you can see Fiji Airways availability online. You may be able to fly to SYD via AKL if there are no direct flights from NAN. Use the multi-city facility.
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Old Jan 26, 14, 10:23 pm
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Mileage posting time to AA from Fiji Airways / FJ

Does anyone have experience around the posting time of FJ flights to partner programs? I flew over 2 weeks ago and still haven't had anything appear in my AA account. I wasn't able to find an answer here through searching, so I thought it would be a nice topic to have started up.
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Old Jan 30, 14, 3:53 pm
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In the AA magazine earlier this month EQM was not checked on the partner comparison in regards to Fiji Airways. I had expected to see a check with an asterisk which states EQM only on AA codeshare/AA flight number.

I've got an excuse to go to Fiji and getting EQM may be the deciding factor on whether I go.
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Old Jan 31, 14, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by BrianV View Post
In the AA magazine earlier this month EQM was not checked on the partner comparison in regards to Fiji Airways. I had expected to see a check with an asterisk which states EQM only on AA codeshare/AA flight number.

I've got an excuse to go to Fiji and getting EQM may be the deciding factor on whether I go.
Well, you always, always earn EQMs if you have an AA flight number.
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Old Feb 6, 14, 7:49 am
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Hi,
is there any other way to get Air Fiji award other than with AA and AS miles ?
Thanks
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Old Feb 6, 14, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Eddy421 View Post
Hi,
is there any other way to get Air Fiji award other than with AA and AS miles ?
Thanks
Also with QFF points, if you have them. Buying them is not really an option but they can be transferred to you for free if you know someone really nice.
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Old Feb 6, 14, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by wandering_fred View Post
I was under the impression that QF codeshares (as a result of the Emirates tie-up) now had universal exceptions. That is, if it is QF flight number, it will credit to AA. ...
That is the case-- a QF #'d flight will yield full AA EQP/EQM/EQS (yes, on the eligible QF fare classes) even if its operated by another carrier. It is a unique exception to QF (and, some say (including me) JL and AY) They just haven't updated AA.com yet, but all is confirmed with AAdvantage. QF is the "most" confirmed. But I have little doubt about the others based on extensive research.

As far as using Fiji goes, one thing to keep in mind (before buying a lot of miles, etc), they can be quite reasonable on the way back-- i.e. I recently purchased for a friend AKL-NAN-LAX-JFK and it was a pretty good deal: (popped up on expedia while searching for "premium economy" oddly.)

Auckland (AKL)-Nadi (NAN)
Duration: 2hr 55mn
Fiji Airways
Flight: 410
Economy/Coach Class (11A), Meal, AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200

Nadi (NAN)- Los Angeles (LAX)
Duration: 10hr 45mn
Fiji Airways
Flight: 810
Business Class
(02K), Breakfast, AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-200

Los Angeles (LAX)- New York (JFK)
Arrive 10:00 pm
Terminal 4
Duration: 5hr 20mn
Virgin America
Flight: 412
First Class
(02F), Airbus A320,

$2,816.50
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Old Feb 20, 14, 1:02 am
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Fiji Airways Trip report

A detailed report about the A330 used by Fiji Airways on LAX-NAN;
http://thedesignair.net/2014/02/19/t...february-2014/
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Old Feb 21, 14, 8:42 am
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Talking Bula class

Originally Posted by grussellt View Post
A detailed report about the A330 used by Fiji Airways on LAX-NAN;
http://thedesignair.net/2014/02/19/t...february-2014/
Thanks for the trip report -
I am still busy monitoring awards ticket for a HKG-NAN and very happy to find finally a detailed review about the "Bula" class..
Design of the amenity kits / eye masks looks pretty cool for sure
More seriously, looks like a decent option vs the few alternatives I got...
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Old Feb 24, 14, 12:22 pm
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To answer my own question to help people who may have the same question in the future:

I credited to AA. Miles posted 30 days after the last flight in the round trip itinerary.
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