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FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)

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(ex-Air Pacific)

NOTE: AA seems not to be able to see FJ award inventory. Try calling AA Australia (+61 2-9101-1948 ) then press 4 - or the New Zealand number (+64 09-308-4014) as an alternative - although the call center is actually in Suva, Fiji (I believe it's our old South African agency friend Mindpearl) - as they can see the inventory reliably, and you can book. Or, put the FJ segments on hold so you can flesh out the award afterward and/or pay the fees in USD through the US call center.

Air Pacific (46% Qantas owned, 51% Fiji government owned) rebranded as Fiji Airways (as of June 2013 - follow the topic and changes here: Air Pacific becoming Fiji Airways (again) & securing three A330-200s (2013) in the Other Asian, Australian and South Pacific Frequent Flyer Programs. In 2016, an A330-300 initiated service NAN-LAX, and in 2017 NAN-SFO.

New aircraft, configuration, new baggage limits etc. for 2016 are in this FT thread.

Fiji Airways is still an AA partner (as well as a codeshare partner of AS, CX, EY, IE, NZ and QF). The partnership has not changed - one earns redeemable (Award) AA miles flying as FJ, AA EQ miles can be earned if flown as AA or QF codeshares (often more expensive); no EQ miles if flown as AS or CX codeshares (as FJ is not a oneworld member).

Business (née Tambua) Class in both (three) A330-200 and (one) -300: 24 Zodiac / Weber 7811 8 degree from horizontal angled lie-flats with A/C and USB, 15.4" screen with Panasonic eX2 AVOD in 2 x 2 x 2 configuration. (The SQ leased 747 offered 28 Tabua seats - not much of a loss here.)

Economy (née Pacific Voyager) Class: 249 (289 in-300) Weber 5751 slim-line with IFE, A/C and USB power in a 2 x 4 x 2 configuration with 31-32" pitch and 7.5" total recline (6" seat back movement, 1.5" seat base movement) and 9" Panasonic touchscreen AVOD with controls in the seatback (not armrest). (747 offered 430 with 32" in Pacific Voyager, a major seat capacity reduction.)

Starting your trip in Nadi in. Business Class you will be able to access the new Fiji Airways Premier Lounge (but as FJ is not a oneworld airline, status alone won’t get you in).

"Bula", pronounced mboo-lah, short for "ni sa bula", merely is the typical Fijian "hello" and "welcome"; it's not a class of service. Fiji Airways Premier Lounge is the name for their NAN lounge and VIP club; it is costly and bureaucratically challenging to join - but if you're flying FJ a lot, it offers an additional checked in bag, lounge access and other perqs.[/quote]

Resource links:

Link to aa.com page on earning / spending miles on Fiji Airways (may still be referred to as "Air Pacific" on some parts of aa.com)

Link to Fiji Airways new website

Link to Fiji Airways route map

Link to Fiji Airways fleet information

Link to Fiji Airways baggage allowance tables

Link to rebranding article showcasing new appearance, symbology, etc.

Link to A330-200 seat diagram (PDF document)

The USA will see Fiji Airways A330-300 flight to Los Angeles on January 2016. See Link[/B][/U] to article with photos; link to page with information, photos and video (Australian Business Traveller). And FJ serves SFO on select days.

Link to Airline Reporter illustrated article on the new Fiji Airways A330-200 product.
Code:
OUR FLEET
 Fiji Airways flights are available on modern Boeing and Airbus 
 aircraft, ranging from the 122 seat 737-700 to the brand new 
 A330-200 seating 273. Passengers will enjoy the comfort of our 
 modern fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft, or one of the new Airbus 
 A330-200 aircraft (and new A330-300).
 
 Boeing 737-700 (one)
 Total capacity: 122
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 114 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 29-32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Boeing 737-800 (five, adding three more)
 Total capacity: 164
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 156 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Airbus A330-200 (three)
 Total capacity: 273
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 249 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 Airbus A330-300 (one)
 Total capacity: 313
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 289 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 De Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otters Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 12
 
 ATR 42-500 Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 42
”On May 2, 2019. Fiji Airways announced its intention to lease 2 Airbus A350-900 as a part of their fleet expansion, these will operate routes to Australia, New Zealand and The United States of America . They will be delivered between November and December 2019. They have been leased from Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.[14] These A350 frames were supposedly going to be delivered to Hong Kong Airlines however following the cancellation of their order,they were purchased by Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.” — Wikipedia
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Old Feb 7, 17, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by texasrob View Post
Considering the deal posted on FT yesterday, but have no experience with Fiji Airways or Air Pacific. Anyone done this flight and have any feedback? Will fare class R still qualify for at least EQMs for AA? Apologize in advance if these are obvious questions, just trying to avoid a large and expensive mistake before buying 4 tickets. Thanks!
According to the relevant page on aa.com (https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ji-airways.jsp)
You only earn AAward miles, not EQM

And since R class is not listed, looks like you not even earn AAwards miles
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Old Feb 7, 17, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by texasrob View Post
Considering the deal posted on FT yesterday, but have no experience with Fiji Airways or Air Pacific. Anyone done this flight and have any feedback? Will fare class R still qualify for at least EQMs for AA? Apologize in advance if these are obvious questions, just trying to avoid a large and expensive mistake before buying 4 tickets. Thanks!
Please read the Wikipost at the top of the thread in those threads with them; they're generally instructive. The only way you can earn EQM flying FJ is if you buy an AA or QF code share.
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Old Apr 5, 17, 6:42 pm
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Award availability trends US to Fiji?

Anyone have any info on general award availability trends from US to NAN? I'm looking for something along the lines of "they generally release X awards in J/Y 331 days out" or "They tend to release more seats as they get closer to departure," and/or "typically once the initially allotted award seats are taken, they don't release more," etc. I can't find any recent discussion on this matter. Looking to burn AS or AA miles, ideally in J, but will settle for Y. Looking at September 2018.

Thanks.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 6:09 am
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Last month I booked two rt business class LAX-NAN on FIji Air for Memorial Day weekend. Using the Quantas award search engine worked like a charm...there were seats basically every day, both in economy and up front. Just make a Quantas account, use their engine to find your dates, and call in to book.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by MoMilesMoProblems View Post
Quantas award Quantas account
Oh dear.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by MoMilesMoProblems View Post
Last month I booked two rt business class LAX-NAN on FIji Air for Memorial Day weekend. Using the Quantas award search engine worked like a charm...there were seats basically every day, both in economy and up front. Just make a Quantas account, use their engine to find your dates, and call in to book.
Only "u" put a "u" in Qantas.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Only "u" put a "u" in Qantas.
Quantas - Spirit of Auustralia

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Old Apr 21, 17, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by wlp07 View Post
Anyone have any info on general award availability trends from US to NAN? I'm looking for something along the lines of "they generally release X awards in J/Y 331 days out" or "They tend to release more seats as they get closer to departure," and/or "typically once the initially allotted award seats are taken, they don't release more," etc. I can't find any recent discussion on this matter. Looking to burn AS or AA miles, ideally in J, but will settle for Y. Looking at September 2018.

Thanks.
They seem to be released 330 days out (looking at AS site).

I haven't had luck with any J for the LAX-NAN route...just F to LAX (I am looking from SEA), and Y out to NAN. Gah!

Anyone else had luck securing J? I am calling AS tomorrow before booking Y tickets.
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Old Apr 21, 17, 5:27 am
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Iirc there's a SFO-NAN routing either newly up or soon, not daily but several times a week. Given the novelty of this route, perhaps availability would be easier?

Links to FJ route map and flight search are in the Wikipost at the top of the page. And if you book the award in Coach but Business becomes available in the future, it's easy to change the award to the higher class of service.

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Old May 12, 17, 9:26 am
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Thanks, JDiver. I've been searching the AS site and that SFO-NAN flight never seems to pop up in the saver options (unsure if it's returning in the higher-priced tiers).

Thanks, kimc0486, I've had the exact same issue with searching for J. The AS site will return J availability, but it will only be for a flight or flights connecting to the international gateway, LAX. I haven't been able to run across a single J award on the LAX-NAN flight. Looks like it'll likely end up being Y for me. Please advise how your phone call with AS went.
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Old Aug 9, 17, 10:55 pm
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AA to Fiji Airways luggage question (to merge)

Apologies in advance: I am sure this question has been asked 1MM times in most forums on FT; however, I cannot find a relevant thread.

I am flying 1st class from SEA to LAX on AA. I am connecting to Fiji Airways business class to NAN (Nadi Fiji) and will have surf gear with me. What is my free baggage allowance in regard to weight? I don't have any boards so nothing is oversized, I just am wondering about the actually #'s permitted since AA domestic allowance is different than Fiji Airways Lax-Nan allowance. FWIW, this is an AA coded ticket and I have zero status with them.

Thanks and apologies for the oft repeated question. I usually fly just one airline, or at least fly the first leg in the least restrictive airline.
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Old Aug 9, 17, 11:12 pm
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Originally Posted by rowsign View Post
Apologies in advance: I am sure this question has been asked 1MM times in most forums on FT; however, I cannot find a relevant thread.

I am flying 1st class from SEA to LAX on AA. I am connecting to Fiji Airways business class to NAN (Nadi Fiji) and will have surf gear with me. What is my free baggage allowance in regard to weight? I don't have any boards so nothing is oversized, I just am wondering about the actually #'s permitted since AA domestic allowance is different than Fiji Airways Lax-Nan allowance. FWIW, this is an AA coded ticket and I have zero status with them.

Thanks and apologies for the oft repeated question. I usually fly just one airline, or at least fly the first leg in the least restrictive airline.
Bula! Do you have separate PNRs, or did you buy through AA and have a single PNR? If separate (you'll have to recover your bags in LAX and check them in with FJ),

FJ Business Class USA to Nadi (pronounce NAN-dee) is 3 pieces at 30 kg / 66 lb each. See https://www.fijiairways.com/flight-i...ge-allowances/.

But, "On through-checked baggage, USDOT regulations require the marketing carrier of the initial segment baggage rules apply to USA originating (or ending, iirc) flights. E.g. flying QF as an AA codeshare, or QF connecting from AA marketed by AA, AA rules would apply. These take precedent of IATA rules if travel begins (or ends) in the USA." (See Wikipost of thread linked to below.)

Confirmed AA Business Class customers are allowed two checked bags of 32 kg / 70 lb each.

See FAQ: Baggage / Luggage Rules, Allowance on AA & Other Airlines (consolidated) for AA and other airlines (where we will ultimately merge this).

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Old Aug 9, 17, 11:18 pm
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Single PNR which is why I am a bit confused which applies.

I looked up Fiji Airways luggage and thought, "I am set"....until I realized my first flight was on AA with AA coded ticket. I think I was burning Chase UR's and got a good deal or something because I never use AA. Then again I never fly Fiji Airways!

PS: Thanks for the heads up on the WIKI. I will see if it clears up my questions.
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Old Aug 9, 17, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by rowsign View Post
Apologies in advance: I am sure this question has been asked 1MM times in most forums on FT; however, I cannot find a relevant thread.

I am flying 1st class from SEA to LAX on AA. I am connecting to Fiji Airways business class to NAN (Nadi Fiji) and will have surf gear with me. What is my free baggage allowance in regard to weight? I don't have any boards so nothing is oversized, I just am wondering about the actually #'s permitted since AA domestic allowance is different than Fiji Airways Lax-Nan allowance. FWIW, this is an AA coded ticket and I have zero status with them.

Thanks and apologies for the oft repeated question. I usually fly just one airline, or at least fly the first leg in the least restrictive airline.
Since you have a USA-originating ticket, the allowance for the entire trip is determined by the First Marketing Carrier (AA), and it is the AA international J allowance because you have an international J ticket. FJ policy does not come into play for you (regardless of whether the FJ flight is marketed by AA). In addition, your baggage allowance is supposed to be stated on your e-ticket receipt.

See wiki (Which carrier's rules apply?): http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html

See also: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g...ine.Trips.html
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Old Aug 9, 17, 11:47 pm
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In addition, your baggage allowance is supposed to be stated on your e-ticket receipt.
Thank you both very much. Re: "e-ticket receipt" - it was an UR rewards ticket without much info to be clear. I fly internationally in J or F 5-10 times a year; however, not usually on AA and never on Fiji. It was my lack of status, lack of CC luggage waiver, basically lack of anything that had me confused. As usual, I will just pack up my stuff and if I have to fork over some $'s, so be it:-)

American (The "first marketing carrier") seems a bit stingy on the luggage in highest class offered. I rarely carry more than a carry-on unless I have a kite/surf adventure planned, but if I wasn't going to Fiji I would avoid these guys.

Edit: I reviewed their baggage policy and it looks like trans-pacific is two #70 bags in business or first? I really do appreciate your patience on this and hopefully someone else can read this and avoid the drama:-)!

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