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All about the Boeing 777-323ER Business and First Class cabins and seats
Link to the Main Cabin and Main Cabin Extra seating thread.
Link to the Boeing 777 Seating Guide thread for the latest seat maps
All 8 First and 52 Business seats recline to horizontally flat, have full aisle access and are isolated from other seats; they offer folding flat screen AVOD with touchscreen monitor that offers on-demand entertainment with up to 250 movies, 160 TV shows, 13 radio channels, 375 albums and 20 games, 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power. Ku-Band Satellite Panasonic Wi-Fi is offered for sale. B&O noise cancelling headphones are available for use in flight (generally picked up an hour prior to arrival), and both cabins feature a walk-up bar stocked with snacks and refreshments.
First Class seating
Eight First Class Flagship suites by Safran (nee Zodiac Aerospace), though they are not as spacious a seat as the original 772 F suite, offer 82” / 208 cm of pitch and 36” width in a herringbone 1-2-1 configuration; they become a fully horizontal 6’ 8” bed with retractable arm rests extending the width; turndown service provides a mattress pad, pillow, duvet, amenity kit and pajamas. Seats swivel, diners in D-G First suites can dine face to face with privacy screen lowered. Each suite has two folding tables.
Link to Rocky Horan's review of 77W F seat and service on Travel Codex [Link does not work]
Link to Steve Case's review of 77W F seat and service on Travel Codex
There are a large folding flat 17" touch screen AVOD, two 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power, RCA composite input (red, white and yellow) and a Panasonic eXport jack (see here). The seat controls are in an iPhone like touch controller.
Business class seats
All 52 business class seats offer aisle access and convert to fully horizontal flat beds and feature 75” pitch, 26” wide (at its widest point, so less in actuality) fully horizontal seats in a 1-2-1 "pod" configuration offer full AVOD through large flat folding screens and a Panasonic eX2 IFE system, retractable aisle arm rests. The seats move forward and aft to adjust distance fro service table, etc. The headset jack is behind a small stowage door at shoulder height that holds the B&O noise reducing headsets, personal light and air vent, 110 VAC and 5 VDC USB power, RCA composite input ( red, white and yellow) and a Panasonic export jack link), touch seat controls, AVOD corded hand controller. Some storage, including shoe stowage, is available. The center seat pairs do not provide close seating for couples.
Link to JPA Design Zodiac Aerospace Cirrus Business Class seat page.
Center Business seat (c/o The Points Guy) link to review
Service caveats: some crew variability, and some crews excessively noisy in the galleys. Applies in F, J including J minicabin.
Link to the Main Cabin and Main Cabin Extra seating thread.
Link to the Boeing 777 Seating Guide thread for the latest seat maps
All 8 First and 52 Business seats recline to horizontally flat, have full aisle access and are isolated from other seats; they offer folding flat screen AVOD with touchscreen monitor that offers on-demand entertainment with up to 250 movies, 160 TV shows, 13 radio channels, 375 albums and 20 games, 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power. Ku-Band Satellite Panasonic Wi-Fi is offered for sale. B&O noise cancelling headphones are available for use in flight (generally picked up an hour prior to arrival), and both cabins feature a walk-up bar stocked with snacks and refreshments.
First Class seating
Eight First Class Flagship suites by Safran (nee Zodiac Aerospace), though they are not as spacious a seat as the original 772 F suite, offer 82” / 208 cm of pitch and 36” width in a herringbone 1-2-1 configuration; they become a fully horizontal 6’ 8” bed with retractable arm rests extending the width; turndown service provides a mattress pad, pillow, duvet, amenity kit and pajamas. Seats swivel, diners in D-G First suites can dine face to face with privacy screen lowered. Each suite has two folding tables.
- A and D, and G and J are not aligned / are slightly offset (contrary to Seatguru and other seat charts).
- D and G pairs have a high privacy screen that can be raised / lowered.
- Note that 1D and G have no bins, so bin contention does occur
Link to Steve Case's review of 77W F seat and service on Travel Codex
There are a large folding flat 17" touch screen AVOD, two 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power, RCA composite input (red, white and yellow) and a Panasonic eXport jack (see here). The seat controls are in an iPhone like touch controller.
Business class seats
All 52 business class seats offer aisle access and convert to fully horizontal flat beds and feature 75” pitch, 26” wide (at its widest point, so less in actuality) fully horizontal seats in a 1-2-1 "pod" configuration offer full AVOD through large flat folding screens and a Panasonic eX2 IFE system, retractable aisle arm rests. The seats move forward and aft to adjust distance fro service table, etc. The headset jack is behind a small stowage door at shoulder height that holds the B&O noise reducing headsets, personal light and air vent, 110 VAC and 5 VDC USB power, RCA composite input ( red, white and yellow) and a Panasonic export jack link), touch seat controls, AVOD corded hand controller. Some storage, including shoe stowage, is available. The center seat pairs do not provide close seating for couples.
Link to JPA Design Zodiac Aerospace Cirrus Business Class seat page.
- 3A-J people like privacy, only single window
- 4A-4J too noisy (galley and lav close) for some
- rows 3 and 4 have reports of being somewhat ignored by J cabin crew
- Row 5 has only single window, close to galley and lavs / noisy
- Row 7 one window, 7A overhead stowage taken by O2 equipment
- Row 11 has no windows
- Row 12 is at the wing root; 13-15 downward views impaired by the wing
- Row 15 is positioned directly in front of the Economy lavs
Center Business seat (c/o The Points Guy) link to review
Service caveats: some crew variability, and some crews excessively noisy in the galleys. Applies in F, J including J minicabin.
AA 77W / 777-300ER / 773 Business & First Class / F & J seat (master thread)
#1217
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: AA GLD, Marriott PLT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,900
I've booked round trip DFW-LHR. 77W both ways. (50 and 81) Flew this route before in J a few years ago. This time, I'm going to try out the "mini cabin" forward of L2 for both legs. 3J on the outbound. 3A on the return. I think boarding will be a lot more peaceful, with just 16 seats forward of L2.
reading the Wiki, I see that row 3 only has a single window available. I suppose that's fine. Any other issues to know of, like over head bin storage?
reading the Wiki, I see that row 3 only has a single window available. I suppose that's fine. Any other issues to know of, like over head bin storage?
So, I did my trip.
The mini-cabin was great. Love being forward of L2. So calm during boarding. The air handler WAS noisy. But really, it was only an issue on the ground. Once pushed and the engines fired up, it didn't seem to be any noisier than other parts of the plane. Especially with noise canceling headsets on. As was suggested, TONS of overhead space. Basically, a full bin just for me. Which was WAY more space than needed. Plenty of excess space.
Two great flights. Good service. No issues at all about being "forgotten" in the mini cabin.
#1218
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Orleans (MSY)
Programs: AA EXP, IHG PLT, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Amtrak, WN
Posts: 2,617
So, I did my trip.
The mini-cabin was great. Love being forward of L2. So calm during boarding. The air handler WAS noisy. But really, it was only an issue on the ground. Once pushed and the engines fired up, it didn't seem to be any noisier than other parts of the plane. Especially with noise canceling headsets on. As was suggested, TONS of overhead space. Basically, a full bin just for me. Which was WAY more space than needed. Plenty of excess space.
Two great flights. Good service. No issues at all about being "forgotten" in the mini cabin.
The mini-cabin was great. Love being forward of L2. So calm during boarding. The air handler WAS noisy. But really, it was only an issue on the ground. Once pushed and the engines fired up, it didn't seem to be any noisier than other parts of the plane. Especially with noise canceling headsets on. As was suggested, TONS of overhead space. Basically, a full bin just for me. Which was WAY more space than needed. Plenty of excess space.
Two great flights. Good service. No issues at all about being "forgotten" in the mini cabin.
If anything, I felt that I got a higher level of service there. There were no carts--everything was hand-delivered from the galley as if I were in F. Also, FAs from F would pass by and collect/refill my glasses on occasion. I think I even got some F champagne.
#1219
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 2,028
I can't sit in the mini-cabin because of galley noise, even from row 3 (the galley is right behind row 4). AA FA's almost seem mandated to make as much noise as possible - slamming carts, chatting endlessly, etc. It really makes the journey quite miserable for me, and noise-cancelling headphones does nothing but exacerbate the noise (quieter cabin white noise but louder voices/slams). In-ear headphones do the trick, but I hate sleeping with them in.
I prefer the middle of the main J cabin much more for this reason. Same reason why I would honestly probably take J in the main cabin over 1G in F.
I prefer the middle of the main J cabin much more for this reason. Same reason why I would honestly probably take J in the main cabin over 1G in F.
#1220
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Durham, NC (RDU/GSO/CLT)
Programs: AA EXP/MM, DL GM, UA Platinum, HH DIA, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Platinum, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC
Posts: 33,857
I can't sit in the mini-cabin because of galley noise, even from row 3 (the galley is right behind row 4). AA FA's almost seem mandated to make as much noise as possible - slamming carts, chatting endlessly, etc. It really makes the journey quite miserable for me, and noise-cancelling headphones does nothing but exacerbate the noise (quieter cabin white noise but louder voices/slams). In-ear headphones do the trick, but I hate sleeping with them in.
I prefer the middle of the main J cabin much more for this reason. Same reason why I would honestly probably take J in the main cabin over 1G in F.
I prefer the middle of the main J cabin much more for this reason. Same reason why I would honestly probably take J in the main cabin over 1G in F.
#1221
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: DCA/IAD/WAS
Programs: MAR AMB, WOH Explorist, AA EXP, UA 2P
Posts: 2,138
I can't sit in the mini-cabin because of galley noise, even from row 3 (the galley is right behind row 4). AA FA's almost seem mandated to make as much noise as possible - slamming carts, chatting endlessly, etc. It really makes the journey quite miserable for me, and noise-cancelling headphones does nothing but exacerbate the noise (quieter cabin white noise but louder voices/slams). In-ear headphones do the trick, but I hate sleeping with them in.
I prefer the middle of the main J cabin much more for this reason. Same reason why I would honestly probably take J in the main cabin over 1G in F.
I prefer the middle of the main J cabin much more for this reason. Same reason why I would honestly probably take J in the main cabin over 1G in F.
#1222
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 804
Mini cabin
HI all
Going to fly the AA 77W for the first time.
LHR-DFW and LAX-LHR.
Booked into 3J/4J out (day flight) and 3D/G on way back (night flight).
Thoughts the window views might be good on the day flight and not much to see on the way back.
I noticed the replies regarding the issue with the Galley behind the mini cabin.
My concern was more about the toilets behind row 4. Do they cause any smell discomfort for the passengers in row 4- if you get my meaning since we had a very bad experience in economy on EK once a long time ago being sat next to the toilets!!!!
Any thoughts on if these seats are ok or would people recommend changing them to the bigger business cabin?
Going to fly the AA 77W for the first time.
LHR-DFW and LAX-LHR.
Booked into 3J/4J out (day flight) and 3D/G on way back (night flight).
Thoughts the window views might be good on the day flight and not much to see on the way back.
I noticed the replies regarding the issue with the Galley behind the mini cabin.
My concern was more about the toilets behind row 4. Do they cause any smell discomfort for the passengers in row 4- if you get my meaning since we had a very bad experience in economy on EK once a long time ago being sat next to the toilets!!!!
Any thoughts on if these seats are ok or would people recommend changing them to the bigger business cabin?
#1223
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: DCA/IAD/WAS
Programs: MAR AMB, WOH Explorist, AA EXP, UA 2P
Posts: 2,138
HI all
Going to fly the AA 77W for the first time.
LHR-DFW and LAX-LHR.
Booked into 3J/4J out (day flight) and 3D/G on way back (night flight).
Thoughts the window views might be good on the day flight and not much to see on the way back.
I noticed the replies regarding the issue with the Galley behind the mini cabin.
My concern was more about the toilets behind row 4. Do they cause any smell discomfort for the passengers in row 4- if you get my meaning since we had a very bad experience in economy on EK once a long time ago being sat next to the toilets!!!!
Any thoughts on if these seats are ok or would people recommend changing them to the bigger business cabin?
Going to fly the AA 77W for the first time.
LHR-DFW and LAX-LHR.
Booked into 3J/4J out (day flight) and 3D/G on way back (night flight).
Thoughts the window views might be good on the day flight and not much to see on the way back.
I noticed the replies regarding the issue with the Galley behind the mini cabin.
My concern was more about the toilets behind row 4. Do they cause any smell discomfort for the passengers in row 4- if you get my meaning since we had a very bad experience in economy on EK once a long time ago being sat next to the toilets!!!!
Any thoughts on if these seats are ok or would people recommend changing them to the bigger business cabin?
#1224
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 90
#1225
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 9
HI all
Going to fly the AA 77W for the first time.
LHR-DFW and LAX-LHR.
Booked into 3J/4J out (day flight) and 3D/G on way back (night flight).
Thoughts the window views might be good on the day flight and not much to see on the way back.
I noticed the replies regarding the issue with the Galley behind the mini cabin.
My concern was more about the toilets behind row 4. Do they cause any smell discomfort for the passengers in row 4- if you get my meaning since we had a very bad experience in economy on EK once a long time ago being sat next to the toilets!!!!
Any thoughts on if these seats are ok or would people recommend changing them to the bigger business cabin?
Going to fly the AA 77W for the first time.
LHR-DFW and LAX-LHR.
Booked into 3J/4J out (day flight) and 3D/G on way back (night flight).
Thoughts the window views might be good on the day flight and not much to see on the way back.
I noticed the replies regarding the issue with the Galley behind the mini cabin.
My concern was more about the toilets behind row 4. Do they cause any smell discomfort for the passengers in row 4- if you get my meaning since we had a very bad experience in economy on EK once a long time ago being sat next to the toilets!!!!
Any thoughts on if these seats are ok or would people recommend changing them to the bigger business cabin?
As for seats in the main business class area, most seats are fine, but I don't like the heavy foot traffic. Therefore, I prefer row 3.
#1228
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 789
Yet to fly a 2 class 772 but the blurb I got from Dallas said the snack bars were rolling out on refitted 777's, and 767's. So I believe they are on 772's as well as 77W's. No idea about Airbuses.
#1230
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Across an aisle from each other is easier, IMO, as I don’t recall the Center seats friendly to conversation,require the use of separate aisles and bins, if each has carryons. For us it’s easier to use the same aisle, same bin, etc. and as I usually have to administer medication inflight that’s definitely easier for us.