fanger

I did get 11 HJ but a lot of seats opened up at the last minute and we cleared today. So I won't get to try it this time.

The only thing I don't like about bulkhead is the lack of storage. To me knee, shin and "face" room are more important than toe room.

Edit:

In the future I would definitely choose 11HJ over 21HJ. Better isolation and location. I guess if you want the moveable armrest choose 12 or 13. I don't know if it is a coincidence or not but it did seem like they put a lot of families in the minicabin, though. Fussy kids, if you have a problem with that.

Cofyknsult

Hi all,

With the Y "Mini Cabin" reduced from 4 to 3 rows to accomodate MCE, I do not see why it would shorten the J cabin BUT...

JFK-SFO yesterday in 6D sold as "First" on a 763, the seat seemed to recline less than usual, something more like on the 757L. Both my neighbor in 6G and I noticed it and talked about it. It may be that row 6 always has a limited recline (I usually choose rows 3 or 5 D or G according to FEBO but 6 was all that was available when I booked). It may also be that both seats were behaving abnormally by coincidence. Since this was my first trip on a 763 with MCE, I thought there might be a link.

On a different topic, with the new "Book your entree" availability on that route, FEBO becomes less relevant. I was surprised to see it offered also on ORD/LGA. Will it become the rule ?

FWAAA

No, the biz cabin has not been re-pitched. IME, all rows of 763 biz recline the same amount. MCE was created by removing one row of economy.

I don't understand the 75L comment, as the 75L seats recline as much as any other NGBC seat.

When AA announced the online meal selection, it said that eventually, it would be available system-wide.

Cofyknsult

There is something in the 75L which makes the seat feel much more cramped than on 763/777. It may be the pitch if not the recline. Every time I have mentioned it here I have been poo-pooed, but every FA on any 75L has told me it that is true and that they hear it all the time

HNL

There is no difference in the recline in row 6 due to MCE instals. We must crush the notion before it becomes an "internet truth" and finds its way onto seatguru - further polluting the reality there.

ijgordon

Does anything qualitative find its way into seatguru these days? Ugh.

Herb687

I can't picture how this would even be possible without massive and costly reengineering. The 763 front cabin seats recline within a self-contained pod. Even if recline were restricted for some reason the back of the seating unit would still be in the exact same place (unless AA spent millions to actually shorten the physical pod itself, or reposition where the seat is anchored to the pod unit). Restricting row 6 recline wouldn't accomplish anything for the Y/Y+ cabin as long as the aft part of the F/J seat pod unit stays in the same position.

MAH4546

All the seats have the same recline - on every plane, in every row - they are in self-enclosed pods!

But the seats are all of different width, and the widest, roomiest of them is on the 75L.

hillrider

Those seats are pitched by the airline. They are built to go full flat (as they do on IB when they removed a row of seats); the fact that they have pods is irrelevant to their pitch as the back and the front are not connected. The maximum recline is software-limited to avoid touching the end of the well in front.

As a matter of fact AA itself (https://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/corp...acts/fleet.jsp) puts the pitch at 58-59 for the 75L, 59 for the 763, and 60/61 for the 777 -- so they're all slightly differently pitched.

Having said that, I cannot imagine why would AA have spent any money to decrease the pitch on the 763 when they have lots of extra space behind row 13 -- if they were to spend the money, it probably would be to increase the J pitch of the 763 (something I wish they had done)!

PamT

Just booked an award flight ORD-LHR for New Years and was thrilled to see the new configuration listed. Unfortunately seat guru doesn't seem to have the new config in their database. Picked 13A going over and 12J (only choice) coming back. As both are night flights, the extra windows aren't a draw for me and I'm with TxTrav, I like having my 'stuff' with me! I'm also pretty tall so I'm leery of any bulkhead. I'm a big sloucher when I sleep so putting my feet WAAAY under the seat in front is a big plus. Hope this is a good call.

PamT

Oh and meant to thank ROBT760 for the pics. With no info on seat guru, they were a big help in deciding!

sdsearch

There's an existing thread for that:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ct-2012-a.html

Please read, discuss and ask questions about that there. Thanks.

sdsearch

They are not self-eclosed pods for a given seat. What is self-enclosed is your seat itself with the seat well area of the person behind you. But your seat and the seat well area in front you are not self-enclosed together, and can be moved a teeny bit further apart or a teeny bit closer together (at which point the recline software is adjusted for the new pitch).

The space under your seat is the seat well of the person behind you.

(For each seat to be self-onclosed, the whole cabin would have be a single self-enclosed unit, since your seat and the seat front of the person behind you are a single unit.)

Another thing that's different is the reading light. One of the planes (777?) has a goosenck, the others don't (but I think there still may be some other difference in the reading light between the 763 and 75L?).

starlanet

In terms of windows, and based on the previously posted pics:

Row 11: wins = 3 windows. Nice.
Row 12: 1 decent window (but not much for you if you are in 12B or 12H)
Row 13: it has 1 window now, but if you recline you won't see much. In this case, if you sit in 13B and 13H you might have a better angle of view.

I'm a window person and 5'9", so the window is much more important to me than seat pitch. Putting my feet under the seat in front always was good. Anyway, I think this config is much better that the 4 rows before. But I wouldn't pay extra for it if I had to. I'll try this new config next Fri.

cnixon

Just booked a DFW/MAD trip in February. My wife and I don't like bulkhead seats, so I'm trying to decide between rows 12 and 13. The pictures earlier in this thread make the window look slightly better in 13, but I worry about lavatory noise and odors. Anyone with recent experiences?
Charles