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Link to earning AA miles on JL page on aa.com
Please see useful information including which JL affiliates can be used for AAdvantage award travel, Domestic Japan Awards, etc. in Post #1.
Please note the different earnings on international and domestic flight fare codes. Also note "JL flights 53 and 54 between Tokyo Narita and Nagoya, and flights 51 and 52 between Tokyo Narita and Osaka Kansai are considered international flights for the purpose of mileage accrual."
As always: Travel ticketed as an American Airlines marketed flight (booked as an AA flight number) and operated by Japan Airlines will earn AAdvantage base miles, Elite Qualifying Miles (EQMs) and Elite Qualifying Segments (EQSs) (and after 1/1/16, EQDs) according to the AA mileage accrual chart.[/quote]
For further information see: Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partner airlines 2016
Earning AA Award / "Redeemable" Miles / RDM on AA, partners 1 Aug 2016
For 2012-2015 posts, please see ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
Please see useful information including which JL affiliates can be used for AAdvantage award travel, Domestic Japan Awards, etc. in Post #1.
Please note the different earnings on international and domestic flight fare codes. Also note "JL flights 53 and 54 between Tokyo Narita and Nagoya, and flights 51 and 52 between Tokyo Narita and Osaka Kansai are considered international flights for the purpose of mileage accrual."
As always: Travel ticketed as an American Airlines marketed flight (booked as an AA flight number) and operated by Japan Airlines will earn AAdvantage base miles, Elite Qualifying Miles (EQMs) and Elite Qualifying Segments (EQSs) (and after 1/1/16, EQDs) according to the AA mileage accrual chart.[/quote]
For further information see: Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partner airlines 2016
Earning AA Award / "Redeemable" Miles / RDM on AA, partners 1 Aug 2016
GUIDE to redeeming AA miles for Japan Air Lines awards:
- JL awards are now shown show and can be booked on aa.com[
- See post #1 for useful information on JL awards
[/color] - AwardNexus (free to FlyerTalk members for basic searches) will also reveal, and (for a fee) alert, on JL award seats
- AA awards on JL must be MileSAAver (AAnytime awards are only available on AA marketed and AA operated flights)
- There are no onerous fuel or carrier-imposed surcharges using AAdvantage miles for awards using JL
- JL initially releases awards 330 days out at 10:00 am JST / 18:00 PDT / 17:00 PST time
- JL now releases awards 360 days out. However AA will not allow you to book them until 330 days out.
- JL updates award and revenue seat award availability once daily ~09:30-12:00 Pacific time
- JL may release 0-2 F and 0-4 J award seats initially; until taken they remain available up to three months from release
- No further seats are likely to be released until shortly (~14 days) prior to scheduled departure - but the last F seat will be retained for sale, not released into award inventory
- No stopovers are allowed on AA awards. Connections may be as long as 23:59.
- Only JAL Mileage Bank members can waitlist awards
- All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments); these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
- If JL & QF are showing availability, but AA can't see it, try calling the Australia AA center ( https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30715035-post810.html ) as it may be a point-of-sale issue
Please refrain from posting questions about AA award redemptions on JL in the JAL Mileage Bank forum.
Information from AA AAdvantage and JAL Mileage Bank fora.
For 2012-2015 posts, please see ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
AAdvantage Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thread)
#2011
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,642
60k is a partner award on JL. 155k is AA pricing on its metal.
You would be charged whatever the rate is for whatever flight you select. Unfortunately, expert flyer does not cover JL alerts to see if availability opens on JL.
What you're asking though is about not using the last segment. If you're not checking luggage, you could walk out the door at HND I suppose and terminate there. If you are checking luggage, you would have to tag it to HND. I do agree, courtesy would be going to the service desk and telling them you don't want to fly the final segment. You didn't receive any advantage of lower miles by ticketing beyond HND.
You would be charged whatever the rate is for whatever flight you select. Unfortunately, expert flyer does not cover JL alerts to see if availability opens on JL.
What you're asking though is about not using the last segment. If you're not checking luggage, you could walk out the door at HND I suppose and terminate there. If you are checking luggage, you would have to tag it to HND. I do agree, courtesy would be going to the service desk and telling them you don't want to fly the final segment. You didn't receive any advantage of lower miles by ticketing beyond HND.
#2012
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Honors/IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,318
ugh. There's no transit belt and you have to re-clear security? MCT is 1:10.
#2013
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,126
We have 2 one way J award seats OMA-DFW-HND-ITM, return KIX-LAX-OMA on a separate PNR.
Now my wife wants to start our trip in Tokyo then take the train to Kyoto, whats the best way to handle this?
I checked AA now wants 155k to HND instead of our 60k
Simply go to the JAL service desk when we land at HND and let them know, are they going to care?
Now my wife wants to start our trip in Tokyo then take the train to Kyoto, whats the best way to handle this?
I checked AA now wants 155k to HND instead of our 60k
Simply go to the JAL service desk when we land at HND and let them know, are they going to care?
On the outbound you currently have OMA-DFW-HND-ITM and you want OMA-DFW-HND, correct? You should call AA and ask them to keep OMA-DFW-HND but drop HND-ITM from the ticket. The miles cost should stay 60k. They should not reprice for dropping the last segment in the same award region. If the agent gives you any pushback HUCA.
#2014
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Honors/IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,318
Since the outbound and return are separate tickets ignore the return ticket, it does not affect the outbound.
On the outbound you currently have OMA-DFW-HND-ITM and you want OMA-DFW-HND, correct? You should call AA and ask them to keep OMA-DFW-HND but drop HND-ITM from the ticket. The miles cost should stay 60k. They should not reprice for dropping the last segment in the same award region. If the agent gives you any pushback HUCA.
On the outbound you currently have OMA-DFW-HND-ITM and you want OMA-DFW-HND, correct? You should call AA and ask them to keep OMA-DFW-HND but drop HND-ITM from the ticket. The miles cost should stay 60k. They should not reprice for dropping the last segment in the same award region. If the agent gives you any pushback HUCA.
#2015
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Omaha
Programs: AA Life Plat 4mm, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,400
We have a conundrum
Im for keeping it simple - 5 nights at the new Kyoto HGI, 2 nights at the Roku, finish with last night at the Conrad Osaka
That is what I ticketed
She says no we will never get back to Japan - 3 nights Conrad Tokyo, 3 HGI, then 2 at the Roku which would require the AA change
#2016
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Honors/IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,318
Thanks
We have a conundrum
Im for keeping it simple - 5 nights at the new Kyoto HGI, 2 nights at the Roku, finish with last night at the Conrad Osaka
That is what I ticketed
She says no we will never get back to Japan - 3 nights Conrad Tokyo, 3 HGI, then 2 at the Roku which would require the AA change
We have a conundrum
Im for keeping it simple - 5 nights at the new Kyoto HGI, 2 nights at the Roku, finish with last night at the Conrad Osaka
That is what I ticketed
She says no we will never get back to Japan - 3 nights Conrad Tokyo, 3 HGI, then 2 at the Roku which would require the AA change
#2018
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Honors/IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,318
#2019
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA, UA, Marriott
Posts: 459
#2020
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salt Lake City, Los Angeles
Posts: 476

Is it safe to assume booking JL Business award on AA's site is JL Domestic First?
Also, if anyone is certain...CTS-HND (JL) and HND-LAX (AA) on separate tickets, 8 hour connection, safe to assume no issue transferring the bags and they will through-check the bags?
Lastly, if I book an economy ticket CTS-HND connecting to business class HND-LAX will I get the economy or business baggage allowance? Bringing my skis in Jan so I don't think it'll be under 20 kg. That's why I'm thinking about booking first, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
Thanks Flyers!
Also, if anyone is certain...CTS-HND (JL) and HND-LAX (AA) on separate tickets, 8 hour connection, safe to assume no issue transferring the bags and they will through-check the bags?
Lastly, if I book an economy ticket CTS-HND connecting to business class HND-LAX will I get the economy or business baggage allowance? Bringing my skis in Jan so I don't think it'll be under 20 kg. That's why I'm thinking about booking first, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
Thanks Flyers!
#2021
Same question as Noodlesz. According to AA a Biz Award ticket on a JAL domestic flight comes with 2 bags.
If I look at the baggage allowance for J class domestic flights it is only 20kg.
So either AA Biz awards are First class (45kg allowance according to JAL), or AA is showing wrong information.
Does anybody know if it's possible to select seats online? I've got JAL's record locator but my reservation is not found when I enter the details on JAL's site. (despite that a post from last year in this thread says it should work)
If I look at the baggage allowance for J class domestic flights it is only 20kg.
So either AA Biz awards are First class (45kg allowance according to JAL), or AA is showing wrong information.
Does anybody know if it's possible to select seats online? I've got JAL's record locator but my reservation is not found when I enter the details on JAL's site. (despite that a post from last year in this thread says it should work)
#2022
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,642
Is it safe to assume booking JL Business award on AA's site is JL Domestic First?
Also, if anyone is certain...CTS-HND (JL) and HND-LAX (AA) on separate tickets, 8 hour connection, safe to assume no issue transferring the bags and they will through-check the bags?
Lastly, if I book an economy ticket CTS-HND connecting to business class HND-LAX will I get the economy or business baggage allowance? Bringing my skis in Jan so I don't think it'll be under 20 kg. That's why I'm thinking about booking first, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
Thanks Flyers!
Also, if anyone is certain...CTS-HND (JL) and HND-LAX (AA) on separate tickets, 8 hour connection, safe to assume no issue transferring the bags and they will through-check the bags?
Lastly, if I book an economy ticket CTS-HND connecting to business class HND-LAX will I get the economy or business baggage allowance? Bringing my skis in Jan so I don't think it'll be under 20 kg. That's why I'm thinking about booking first, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
Thanks Flyers!
I think you should ask JL about your question but if one two tickets probably no, if same PNR depends on their rules
It is not safe to assume anything about your domestic flight - you have to look at the details, btw there are very few domestic flights that have F and I'd be surprised if they are releasing for award - but best to check your reservation.
Same question as Noodlesz. According to AA a Biz Award ticket on a JAL domestic flight comes with 2 bags.
If I look at the baggage allowance for J class domestic flights it is only 20kg.
So either AA Biz awards are First class (45kg allowance according to JAL), or AA is showing wrong information.
Does anybody know if it's possible to select seats online? I've got JAL's record locator but my reservation is not found when I enter the details on JAL's site. (despite that a post from last year in this thread says it should work)
If I look at the baggage allowance for J class domestic flights it is only 20kg.
So either AA Biz awards are First class (45kg allowance according to JAL), or AA is showing wrong information.
Does anybody know if it's possible to select seats online? I've got JAL's record locator but my reservation is not found when I enter the details on JAL's site. (despite that a post from last year in this thread says it should work)
Are you sure you are listing the first JL flight # when you try to assign seats? Is your record is not found are you sure it is ticketed correctly?
Last edited by estnet; Nov 14, 22 at 3:19 am
#2023
It is not safe to assume anything about your domestic flight - you have to look at the details, btw there are very few domestic flights that have F and I'd be surprised if they are releasing for award - but best to check your reservation.
If you are originating us-tyo the domestic flight will be tagged in the US but you have to do the transfer between terminals yourself so I think the originating flight baggage would apply
Are you sure you are listing the first JL flight # when you try to assign seats? Is your record is not found are you sure it is ticketed correctly?
If you are originating us-tyo the domestic flight will be tagged in the US but you have to do the transfer between terminals yourself so I think the originating flight baggage would apply
Are you sure you are listing the first JL flight # when you try to assign seats? Is your record is not found are you sure it is ticketed correctly?
AA mentions 2 bags, 32kg each, which is more closely aligned with JAL's baggage allowance for first (although it says 45k max, 1 bag may not exceed 32kg). But on J class it would be 1 bag of max 20kg.
But unfortunately I'm afraid that what AA mentions is not at all correct because I just found my booking by using JAL's international site: https://www.jal.co.jp/ar/en/
Status ticketed. I could select seats in J class.
#2024
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: WAS/TYO
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP (3MM), DL PM, BONVOY TITANIUM, HYATT GLOBALIST, HILTON DIAMOND, IHG DIAMOND AMB, et al
Posts: 5,744
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#2025
I just booked a Domestic biz award because I got a small amount of AA miles that I wanted to burn (I won't be flying AA as much in the future and the miles were going to expire)
The fact that they were going to expire eases the pain a little but this is probably my worst redemption ever. I booked the Biz ticket because AA showed that it came with an increased baggage allowance but it does not.
Here's some info so that others won't make the same mistake:
- JAL's domestic J-class is more like premium economy. The seats may be a little more comfortable but you only get 20 kg luggage allowance, no lounge access
- AA mentions 2 bags 32 kg each (BA even 3 bags of 32 kg) but I'm afraid that the only correct and applicable information will be what JAL mentions (and that baggage allowance is the only reason I booked this ticket)
- Biz awards are double the miles of Y awards but the fare difference between Economy and J-class is minimal, proving that it's more like premium economy and not business. Economy redemptions are more or less in line with the TPG valuation of AA miles but Biz redemptions are not nearly as good. And if you compare it with Japan's low-cost airlines like Skymark the redemption value for both Economy and Biz tickets is bad. (Skymark's fares are inclusive of 20kg)
The fact that they were going to expire eases the pain a little but this is probably my worst redemption ever. I booked the Biz ticket because AA showed that it came with an increased baggage allowance but it does not.
Here's some info so that others won't make the same mistake:
- JAL's domestic J-class is more like premium economy. The seats may be a little more comfortable but you only get 20 kg luggage allowance, no lounge access
- AA mentions 2 bags 32 kg each (BA even 3 bags of 32 kg) but I'm afraid that the only correct and applicable information will be what JAL mentions (and that baggage allowance is the only reason I booked this ticket)
- Biz awards are double the miles of Y awards but the fare difference between Economy and J-class is minimal, proving that it's more like premium economy and not business. Economy redemptions are more or less in line with the TPG valuation of AA miles but Biz redemptions are not nearly as good. And if you compare it with Japan's low-cost airlines like Skymark the redemption value for both Economy and Biz tickets is bad. (Skymark's fares are inclusive of 20kg)