Originally Posted by susiesan
(Post 26359797)
I just discovered a new wrinkle in JL awards. I have an F award ticket HAN-NRT in J, NRT-ORD in F, ORD-MCI in F. Travel date is Jan. 25, 2017 ticketed on March 13., used 67.5K miles. I have a second ticket on the same date and flights for my husband, a J award. I am going to try to change travel date to between Feb. 25-March 13, 2017. If I cannot find an F seat on any acceptable dates I would accept a voluntary downgrade to J. I want to take the trip and don't care if I 'm in J to go. I would willingly give up my F seat. Apparently that would cause a redeposit of the miles and $150 charge and then a reticket at the new higher rate of 70K for J on JL. You can change the date but you cannot change the class of service without a big payment.
In your case, you might consider changing your routing to go HAN-HKG-HND/NRT-ORD -- if you can manage to find HKG-HND or HKG-NRT on one of the handful of flights where CX offers F, the segment in CX F should mean the award would still be an F award even if you downgraded NRT-ORD, which *should* mean there would be no fee/repricing. |
Originally Posted by Captain Flush
(Post 26360194)
In your case, you might consider changing your routing to go HAN-HKG-HND/NRT-ORD -- if you can manage to find HKG-HND or HKG-NRT on one of the handful of flights where CX offers F, the segment in CX F should mean the award would still be an F award even if you downgraded NRT-ORD, which *should* mean there would be no fee/repricing.
I have to decide if I want to take a chance on finding one F seat on JL 10 sometime between Feb. 20 and March 13 and just change the dates or pay the $150 now to change to a J award for current ticket and change the flying dates. There seems to be plenty of J seats on JL 10 but I could always fly home on JL 12 NRT-DFW and then to MCI. |
Originally Posted by susiesan
(Post 26360312)
That would not work. It's even harder to get F seats on CX than on JL. I don't see any F award space on CX flights from Han-NRT at all for Jan.-Feb. 2017. And It doesn't look like the timing of the arrival would be in sync with the departure of JL 10.
I have to decide if I want to take a chance on finding one F seat on JL 10 sometime between Feb. 20 and March 13 and just change the dates or pay the $150 now to change to a J award for current ticket and change the flying dates. There seems to be plenty of J seats on JL 10 but I could always fly home on JL 12 NRT-DFW and then to MCI. |
Originally Posted by Captain Flush
(Post 26360433)
It might not work in a single day, but it's absolutely possible to book HAN-HKG on KA (on those days the morning flight operates), connect to CX HKG-HND or HKG-NRT on the same day, overnight in TYO (>24 hours = still one award) and take JL10 the following morning. And IME CX F is not particularly difficult to come by on HKG-HND and HKG-NRT.
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Originally Posted by susiesan
(Post 26360312)
That would not work. It's even harder to get F seats on CX than on JL. I don't see any F award space on CX flights from Han-NRT at all for Jan.-Feb. 2017. And It doesn't look like the timing of the arrival would be in sync with the departure of JL 10.
I have to decide if I want to take a chance on finding one F seat on JL 10 sometime between Feb. 20 and March 13 and just change the dates or pay the $150 now to change to a J award for current ticket and change the flying dates. There seems to be plenty of J seats on JL 10 but I could always fly home on JL 12 NRT-DFW and then to MCI. |
Originally Posted by rny321
(Post 26361413)
If you have enough miles in one family member's account, you could keep the F ticket and book a J ticket for 55K. If an F seat opens up on your preferred travel date, you could cancel the J ticket and pay $150. If there is no F availability, you could cancel the F ticket and use the J ticket. Unless there was a schedule change that would allow a free cancellation, you would lose $150 but you would have 12.5K more miles than you expected if there were no F awards was allowed.
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Originally Posted by susiesan
(Post 26361600)
How can you have 2 tickets for the same person on the same flight, just in different classes? I'm not traveling alone so I need 2 seats on the same day. I don't have enough miles to book 2 second tickets, only one. I don't want to travel on a different day than my husband.
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Originally Posted by susiesan
(Post 26361600)
How can you have 2 tickets for the same person on the same flight, just in different classes? I'm not traveling alone so I need 2 seats on the same day. I don't have enough miles to book 2 second tickets, only one. I don't want to travel on a different day than my husband.
Change the J reservation for your husband to the date you want Book a new J reservation for yourself on the date you want In the end, if F is available, you book into F, cancel the J ticket. If J is available, cancel the F ticket. Either way, you'll be paying 150 to redeposit. |
Originally Posted by 5DMarkIIguy
(Post 26361630)
Keep the F reservation you currently have
Change the J reservation for your husband to the date you want Book a new J reservation for yourself on the date you want In the end, if F is available, you book into F, cancel the J ticket. If J is available, cancel the F ticket. Either way, you'll be paying 150 to redeposit. Add: I did get a placeholder J award for 55K miles ticketed for a different date than the F award. I'll keep whichever one allows me to travel on a desirable date and cancel the other . I consider this a $150 insurance policy for being able to take my vacation trip at a time that works for me. |
Originally Posted by 5DMarkIIguy
(Post 26361630)
Keep the F reservation you currently have
Change the J reservation for your husband to the date you want Book a new J reservation for yourself on the date you want In the end, if F is available, you book into F, cancel the J ticket. If J is available, cancel the F ticket. Either way, you'll be paying 150 to redeposit. |
Originally Posted by Captain Flush
(Post 26360433)
It might not work in a single day, but it's absolutely possible to book HAN-HKG on KA (on those days the morning flight operates), connect to CX HKG-HND or HKG-NRT on the same day, overnight in TYO (<24 hours = still one award) and take JL10 the following morning. And IME CX F is not particularly difficult to come by on HKG-HND and HKG-NRT.
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Originally Posted by arfaczar
(Post 26361923)
CX doesn't operate 3-class service on the HKG-NRT sector.
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
(Post 26361950)
Tell that to CX520 some days.
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Long time reader, first post.
Finally was able to book 2 NRT-BOS(JL) BOS-LGA (AA)tickets in J for November 2016 since the NRT-JFK route is basically nonexistent. NRT-BOS route will change from their angled seats to lie-flat (SS9) product starting June 11, so good alternative to the usual JL hubs. Great knowledgeable AA agent. |
When does JL release F award seats? I can't find two F award seats JFK or ORD to NRT and/or back again...not this week, next week, or 11 months from now, or anything in between???
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