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Old Jul 28, 2015, 12:06 pm
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Mileage and copayment upgrades on American Airlines

As of May 20, 2017 upgrade prioritization is:
  1. Elite status
    1. Concierge Key
      • Executive Platinum
        • Platinum Pro
          • Platinum
            • Gold
    • Upgrade type
      1. Miles and copay award upgrades and systemwide upgrades (SWU)
        • 500 mile upgrades on purchased tickets (including EXP complimentary UDU)
          • 500 mile upgrades on upgrade eligible awards (including EXP complimentary UDU)
      • Elite qualifying dollars* in the past 12 months
        • Booking class (in order, J, D, I, W, P, Y, H, K, M, L, V, G, S, N, Q, O, T)
          • Time of request


Enjoy a higher cabin of service Link.

Use your AAdvantage miles to upgrade on flights marketed and operated by American Airlines or American Eagle for yourself or anyone you designate.

Upgrades are valid to the next cabin of service* and are valid for a single one-way trip with a maximum of three segments. Upgrades are subject to capacity controls. Excluding award tickets, the following eligible fare types can be upgraded:
  • Discount Economy with published fares booked in H,K,M,L,W,V,G,Q,N,O,S and
    • Military or Government fares booked in Y
      • Full-Fare Economy with published fares booked in Y
        • Discount Premium Economy with published fares booked in P
          • Full-Fare Premium Economy with published fares booked in W
            • Discount Business with published fares booked in I
              • Full-Fare Business with published fares booked in J, D or R
                • Basic Economy fares booked in B are not upgradable

*E.g. Economy to Business, Business to three class First. At this time Premium Economy is treated as Economy for upgrade purposes.

See the chart here for cost in miles and dollars.

NOTE: The most expensive fare classes, full fare Economy Y, full fare Premium Economy W, and full fare Business J, may be upgraded without copay and at a lower cost in miles. See here.

Taxes and carrier-imposed fees:

Co-payment is non-refundable and inclusive of U.S. excise tax where applicable.

Mileage upgrade award tickets are subject to applicable taxes and security fees and may incur additional taxes as a result of upgrading to a higher class cabin (includes higher U.K. Air Passenger Duty If Flight originates in the UK or is a connecting flight with a connection time of 24:00 or more)..)
  • Upgrading from Economy Class to Business Class or First Class may result in additional premium cabin taxes and carrier-imposed fees, including but not limited to flights originating in Great Britain and France.
    • If the ticket is priced in USD, the additional taxes and carrier-imposed fees will be converted to USD at the time of ticketing.
      • Please contact American Airlines Reservations to obtain applicable taxes and carrier-imposed fees for specific itineraries.


NOTE:

Miles and copay upgrades are to the next available cabin of service, are based on inventory being available, usable on AA marketed and operated flights (not codeshares operated by other airlines, not on other airlines' prime flights - BA and IB allow miles upgrades with AA miles but are very different and therefore not treated here).

See AA Participating Airline Upgrade Award - BA, IB, including codeshares (master thd), and note “one class of service” means Y to PE, PE to J, J to F where available on BA.

If the required inventory exists, they can be booked positively (i.e. upgraded immediately); if not, the request is wait listed. Wait list clearance is by status (EXP highest, no status lowest), and within status priority is by rolling 12 month EQD spend. Elites can have one traveling companion on the same PNR "borrow" their status for upgrade wait list purposes, until the request goes to the airport list, where you may want to assure your travel companion continues to hold your “borrowed” status for upgrade purposes.

Copays are waived for CK on all flights.
Frequently Asked Questions / FAQ:

Q. It says the upgrade fees are nonrefundable. Do I lose my miles and money if I'm not upgraded?

If your upgrade request does not go through, miles and copay are in fact refunded.

Q. If I am waitlisted, in what priority order are upgrades processed?

Upgrades are processed first by AAdvantage status tier, secondarily by type of upgrade, thirdly by the previous rolling 12 month EQD spend.

Q. Which has higher priority if all other preceding factors are the same? An upgraded with miles + copay, or an upgraded with SWU?

They have equal priority. A few reports state copay + upgrade have been given priority at some overseas stations.

Q. How soon will I know if my upgrade came through?

It can happen anytime inventory opens, from the time you book until the time you board. (Your request, including date and time of request, should carry over automatically to the airport list.)

Q. How soon will I know if my upgrade came through?

It can happen anytime inventory opens, from the time you book until the time you board. (Your request, including date and time of request, should carry over automatically to the airport list.)

Q. What happens to my booked seat whilst I'm waitlisted? If my upgrade doesn't come through, do I lose my reserved seat?

You normally retain your booked seat until (if) your upgrade comes through.

Q. How many flights can I upgrade with a single miles plus copay upgrade?

You may (assuming available inventory) upgrade up to three segments on the same ticketed itinerary (e.g. LHR-ORD-MIA-EZE, as long as they are on the same PNR).

Q. Can I look at AAnytime or MileSAAver award space to determine upgrade availability?

No. MileSAAver availability may be a good indication upgrade space may become available, but SAAver and upgrade inventories are separate.

Q. What fare inventory do I need to upgrade?

You need available "C" inventory to upgrade to two class domestic First and three class Business, "A" to three class First. These are not shown on aa.com, but some services (e.g. ExpertFlyer) do show them. The only way to reliably search for upgrade space on Expertflyer or other services is segment by segment. The reason for this is that by rule if C is available on the stand alone segment then the upgrade is allowed.

Q. I'm Executive Platinum. If I purchase an upgrade for someone without status, will they "borrow" my status for upgrade purposes?

They will if they are flying as your single traveling companion on the same flights. Otherwise, their status will determine their position on the upgrade wait list. This "borrowed" status was previously lost once the flight has gone to airport control; it doesn’t now, but it pays to check and see if it has been mismanaged by software - it can be restored when it has passed to airport control.

Q. Which miles earning and fare conditions will apply to my upgraded flights?

You will earn miles (award miles -- RDM -- and EQM) and EQ Dollars credit as determined by your originally purchased fare, and the applicable fare rules will also be determined by your originally purchased fare.

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Old Feb 4, 2017, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by Markie
I have a D fare which I am looking to upgrade to First.
It's ticketed LAX-MIA-LHR on the 77W.
How many miles would it be?

I think it's 25k based on the Award Chart but AA say it's 35k.
It is a BA ticket, but AA operates the flights.
Any help please?
The agent is probably using this "partner" chart, which for some bizarre reason does list AA along with BA and IB, and does have 35k for NA to Europe.

Update: I need to retract the "bizarre reason" bit. They're apparently trying to cover all the possible combinations of AA/BA/IB-marketed with AA/BA/IB-operated without listing them all. The problem is, AA-marketed+AA-operated is the implied exception because no partner is involved; not making that explicit can lead to misreading as occurred with that agent.

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Old Feb 4, 2017, 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum
The agent is probably using this "partner" chart, which for some bizarre reason does list AA along with BA and IB, and does have 35k for NA to Europe.
Thanks, I'll call them when I am in the US next week and check that's right!
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum
The agent is probably using this "partner" chart, which for some bizarre reason does list AA along with BA and IB, and does have 35k for NA to Europe.
If you can use that chart - it's much better for you. 10k more miles to save a $550 copay
My mistake - no copay on D fares anyway.
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by jay_dubya
If you can use that chart - it's much better for you. 10k more miles to save a $550 copay
My mistake - no copay on D fares anyway.
Yes, that avoidance of the co-pay was a major reason for the upgrade. It's a great ex-CAI fare to LAS which books in to D!
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by Markie
I have a D fare which I am looking to upgrade to First.
It's ticketed LAX-MIA-LHR on the 77W.
How many miles would it be?

I think it's 25k based on the Award Chart but AA say it's 35k.
It is a BA ticket, but AA operates the flights.
Any help please?
If it's a BA ticket, I think you're going to need to use Avios to upgrade it (I've heard of exceptions at the gate, but I don't think it's going to be possible up front).
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Old Feb 8, 2017, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by jordyn
If it's a BA ticket, I think you're going to need to use Avios to upgrade it (I've heard of exceptions at the gate, but I don't think it's going to be possible up front).
Being a BA ticket shouldn't matter. If it was BA-marketed, though, then the agent was using the correct chart.
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Old Feb 8, 2017, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum
Being a BA ticket shouldn't matter. If it was BA-marketed, though, then the agent was using the correct chart.
Hmm, it's possible it's different with a BA/IB ticket, but I've definitely been shot down for upgrades because the ticket was issued by Etihad.
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Old Feb 8, 2017, 3:35 pm
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I have an upcoming reservation on the miles/copay waitlist; will it make any difference if I remove my AA number from the reservation and add my AS number? I'm considering moving all my crediting to AS this year. I'm AA Platinum but I figure it shouldn't make any difference since miles/copay upgrades have nothing to do with status (as far as I know).

My wife is on the same reservation and has always had her AS number on it.

(In case anyone thinks I'm cross-posting from the BusinessExtra thread: this is a different reservation. I have two one-ways booked and am upgrading them by different means.)
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Old Feb 8, 2017, 5:54 pm
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Originally Posted by jordyn
Hmm, it's possible it's different with a BA/IB ticket, but I've definitely been shot down for upgrades because the ticket was issued by Etihad.
Well, the T&Cs don't limit the seller, but they do say:
Reservations booked through a source other than American Airlines must include at least one flight with an American Airlines flight number in order to be eligible (includes codeshare flights operated by British Airways or Iberia but booked as an American Airlines flight number.)
So perhaps that was the issue in your case?
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Old Feb 8, 2017, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum
So perhaps that was the issue in your case?
Nope. The ticket was all American flight numbers except one Etihad segment.

Given that these upgrades involve reticketing, it makes sense to me that it's a problem if it's not a 001 ticket, but like I said I'm prepared to believe that there's a difference for BA and IB tickets. Would be interesting to hear back on OP's experience one way or the other, though.
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Old Feb 8, 2017, 7:15 pm
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How it is handled is that the upgrade should be confirmed and all certs/SWUs pullled and placed in the record. Then once you fly EY and aa has control of the unused coupons, the rebissue the ticket or a specific segment at the airport. Someone posted the name of this -- either a quick claim or grab and go. Something like that. But the main thing is that the ticket isn't re issued until u are at the airport.

Originally Posted by jordyn
Nope. The ticket was all American flight numbers except one Etihad segment.

Given that these upgrades involve reticketing, it makes sense to me that it's a problem if it's not a 001 ticket, but like I said I'm prepared to believe that there's a difference for BA and IB tickets. Would be interesting to hear back on OP's experience one way or the other, though.
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 6:18 pm
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Mileage Upgrade

Flying RNO-PHX-CLT-TPA this Friday. Called to request 15k/$75 mikeage upgrade. Waitlisted on all.
No way to see this from the customer side.
What is the priority level here? Travel companion is ExPlat and received a comp upgrade on same first leg 48 hours out, nothing here.
Usually fly united where instrument upgrades come first.
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by JetSet86
Flying RNO-PHX-CLT-TPA this Friday. Called to request 15k/$75 mikeage upgrade. Waitlisted on all.
No way to see this from the customer side.
What is the priority level here? Travel companion is ExPlat and received a comp upgrade on same first leg 48 hours out, nothing here.
Usually fly united where instrument upgrades come first.
Mike upgrades and 500 mile/UDU come from different buckets. Thus one may be available but not the other.
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Mike upgrades and 500 mile/UDU come from different buckets. Thus one may be available but not the other.
And I suppose the "free" (sub-500) upgrades come from the same bucket as the 500 mile?

For my EZE-MIA-TPA I requested miles+copy for the long-haul but did not specifically request it for the short, figuring the free would have the same odds. Maybe not?
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Old Feb 17, 2017, 2:37 pm
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I'm Gold and on the miles + copay waitlist for a business class upgrade on flight 174 RDU to LHR on 2/24. There is currently no C availability, and 10 open seats.

Where do I fall in the pecking order for an upgrade with other groups?
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