Jan 21, 2013, 3:18 am
Last edit by: Prospero
See New 777-300 / 77W Config with Premium Economy as of Dec 2017 for discussion of Premium Economy seats on the 77W.
Link to thread discussing First and Business Class seating.
All Economy Zodiac 5751 slimline economy class seats offer seatback flat 15.4" touch screen screen AVOD (can be tilted up or down slightly, corded hand controller as well ) with 250 movies, 160 TV shows, 13 radio channels, 375 albums and 20 games; 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power. These are all located in the seatback. Ku-Band Satellite Panasonic Wi-Fi (not GoGo) is offered for sale.
All Boeing 77W / 777-323ER aircraft are configured as follows:
Main Cabin Extra
28 seats configured 3-4-3 with a typical row pitch of 35"
Main Cabin / Economy
188 seats configured 3-4-3 with a typical row pitch of 31". Exceptions noted below
Link to general thread discussing MCE eligibility
Revised
01 Oct by serfty
24 Oct 2022 by Prospero
Link to thread discussing First and Business Class seating.
All Economy Zodiac 5751 slimline economy class seats offer seatback flat 15.4" touch screen screen AVOD (can be tilted up or down slightly, corded hand controller as well ) with 250 movies, 160 TV shows, 13 radio channels, 375 albums and 20 games; 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power. These are all located in the seatback. Ku-Band Satellite Panasonic Wi-Fi (not GoGo) is offered for sale.
All Boeing 77W / 777-323ER aircraft are configured as follows:
Main Cabin Extra
28 seats configured 3-4-3 with a typical row pitch of 35"
- Row 20, seats 31ACJL, 32ACJL, 34DEGH, 35DEGH, and 36DEGH
- The bulkhead partition in front of 20AC and JL is mounted on pedetals allowing extra foot space
Main Cabin / Economy
188 seats configured 3-4-3 with a typical row pitch of 31". Exceptions noted below
- Seats 21AC and 21JL are twin seats
- Seats 22C and 22J offer unlimited legroom. Tray table is stowed in the armrest
- Seats 30AC and 30JL are twin seats
- Seats 33-34 ABCJKL have a 32" pitch
- Seats 36-38 DEGH have a 32" pitch
- Rows 41-43 (aircraft narrows toward tail) have two seats AC & JL
- Row 44 has DEGH middle seats flanked by lavs. Note the lav doors face the rear of the aircraft
Link to general thread discussing MCE eligibility
Revised
01 Oct by serfty
24 Oct 2022 by Prospero
AA 777-300ER / 77W Best Main Cabin Extra / MCE, Economy / Main Cabin seat
Oct 15, 2018, 9:29 am
#781
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4
I am looking at a flight from LHR to DFW on Flight 79, a 777w. We are a family of five. Our two oldest sons and my husband are all around 6ft tall...should we choose seats in bulkhead middle row 20 and one of the side seats in row 20,?
Or the middle bulkhead for me, husband and little guy in row 33 with two big sons in row 32?
Or should we do 3 in row 33 and 2 in row 34 middle?
These are all supposed to be main cabin extra. Do the bulkheads in rows 20 and 33 center have the same legroom?
Thanks for any help!
Or the middle bulkhead for me, husband and little guy in row 33 with two big sons in row 32?
Or should we do 3 in row 33 and 2 in row 34 middle?
These are all supposed to be main cabin extra. Do the bulkheads in rows 20 and 33 center have the same legroom?
Thanks for any help!
Last edited by loveparis; Oct 15, 2018 at 9:45 am
Oct 15, 2018, 12:05 pm
#782
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, DL, AS, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 2,404
I am looking at a flight from LHR to DFW on Flight 79, a 777w. We are a family of five. Our two oldest sons and my husband are all around 6ft tall...should we choose seats in bulkhead middle row 20 and one of the side seats in row 20,?
Or the middle bulkhead for me, husband and little guy in row 33 with two big sons in row 32?
Or should we do 3 in row 33 and 2 in row 34 middle?
These are all supposed to be main cabin extra. Do the bulkheads in rows 20 and 33 center have the same legroom?
Thanks for any help!
Or the middle bulkhead for me, husband and little guy in row 33 with two big sons in row 32?
Or should we do 3 in row 33 and 2 in row 34 middle?
These are all supposed to be main cabin extra. Do the bulkheads in rows 20 and 33 center have the same legroom?
Thanks for any help!
Here is Row 20 again...
Oct 15, 2018, 5:25 pm
#783
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 3
After seeing the pictures of row 20, I am okay that my wife chose 20J and 20L for us. We're both 5'11" and that extra legroom from LAX-LHR looks decent without spending a small fortune to upgrade.....but may still look into that! Thanks @bzcat!
Oct 24, 2018, 2:59 am
#784
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,744
I had the person sitting in the rearmost window seat of PE yesterday reach back behind the divider to shut the first window blind of the person in 20K.
20J is a nice seat and yes you can put your feet under the partition to stretch out nicely.
Seems strange having the PE cabin so open. You're practically in it and there's no curtain separation at all.
Good location for toilets as well as they're at the front of the PE cabin and next door at the back of the business cabin. Not too far to walk and you don't get people congregating by your seat.
Only real issue was with the screen on the wall sometimes brightening dramatically on certain moving map screens.
20J is a nice seat and yes you can put your feet under the partition to stretch out nicely.
Seems strange having the PE cabin so open. You're practically in it and there's no curtain separation at all.
Good location for toilets as well as they're at the front of the PE cabin and next door at the back of the business cabin. Not too far to walk and you don't get people congregating by your seat.
Only real issue was with the screen on the wall sometimes brightening dramatically on certain moving map screens.
Last edited by xenole; Oct 24, 2018 at 3:16 am
Oct 24, 2018, 12:09 pm
#785
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: DCA | DEN
Programs: AA EXP/2.9mm | Marriott LT Titanium 1.6k nights | NEXUS
Posts: 981
I flew AA107 yesterday in the 77W in J, and had time when I boarded to get a good look at MCE and PE.
MCE:
Row 20 bulkhead. The bulkhead is just a partition, and has a decent gap at floor level, meaning tall people have extra foot room. (photo post 776)
Row 31 exit row. Like row 31 on all 777s, endless leg room but the door protrusion. (photos post 773)
Row 32. Window/aisle pairs, definitely do have extra leg room.
Row 33 centre block bulkhead. This a proper bulkhead so no extra foot room.
Row 34 and 35 centre block. I was able to confirm these two part-rows do indeed have extra legroom. This hadn't been explicitly confirmed here, I believe. How they've done it is not clear.
PE: (first time I've actually seen the PE seats)
Row 16 exit window pairs, endless leg room, centre block bulkhead, quite decent legroom but it is a full bulkhead.
Row 17, 18, 19. My wife flew in the centre block of these rows a couple of times and her main comment is the poor spacing of the seat supports for the row in front. I assume they had to make the seat rows fit the floor which was originally set up for 3-3-3 Y, but it leaves the seat supports right where you want to put your feet.
MCE:
Row 20 bulkhead. The bulkhead is just a partition, and has a decent gap at floor level, meaning tall people have extra foot room. (photo post 776)
Row 31 exit row. Like row 31 on all 777s, endless leg room but the door protrusion. (photos post 773)
Row 32. Window/aisle pairs, definitely do have extra leg room.
Row 33 centre block bulkhead. This a proper bulkhead so no extra foot room.
Row 34 and 35 centre block. I was able to confirm these two part-rows do indeed have extra legroom. This hadn't been explicitly confirmed here, I believe. How they've done it is not clear.
PE: (first time I've actually seen the PE seats)
Row 16 exit window pairs, endless leg room, centre block bulkhead, quite decent legroom but it is a full bulkhead.
Row 17, 18, 19. My wife flew in the centre block of these rows a couple of times and her main comment is the poor spacing of the seat supports for the row in front. I assume they had to make the seat rows fit the floor which was originally set up for 3-3-3 Y, but it leaves the seat supports right where you want to put your feet.
From your pics, row 20 MCE looks pretty good, actually. But I’m in 16 as you can see. From your assessment, even though I can move to 17C, an aisle, I think I’ll stay put. I don’t move around a lot even on long hauls, so I may be better off with the bulkhead in the middle..
Thoughts?
Oct 27, 2018, 6:07 pm
#786
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SBA & LAX
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, BA Lifetime Blue, Marriott Gold, and many others
Posts: 1,152
Flew LHR-LAX a few days ago with Mrs. BLG in 32A&C. They were a good choice, I think the best for couples unless one or both are very tall and need exit rows. The exit row in front blocks the problems of the lavs and the galley. It was surprisingly comfortable and I'd take them again if I wasn't able to get J for whatever reasons.
Nov 1, 2018, 1:37 pm
#787
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, DL, AS, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 2,404
Flew LAX-LHR in 20C last week. I think if leg room is the primarily concern, I will choose this seat over any PE seat. It's not great for sleeping because the fixed screen showing the flight map is right in your face but at least you are not folded up like a pretzel like the rest of the Y cabin. The 2 seats configuration also offers some relief (maybe just psychologically) from the rest of the 3/4/3 Y cabin. The PE seats are wider but they don't offer as much leg room as row 20.
You should book PE if you value the J cabin food and early boarding (not an issue if you have status anyway). But if you just want adequate leg room without paying an arm or leg (yes, that was an attempted pun), row 20 is the way to go.
I had 20J on the other side coming back but upgrades cleared and I was ever so thankful
You should book PE if you value the J cabin food and early boarding (not an issue if you have status anyway). But if you just want adequate leg room without paying an arm or leg (yes, that was an attempted pun), row 20 is the way to go.
I had 20J on the other side coming back but upgrades cleared and I was ever so thankful
Last edited by bzcat; Nov 1, 2018 at 1:44 pm
Nov 1, 2018, 3:47 pm
#788
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,145
20B/K are great Y seats, but definitely not > a PE seat. It's 1.5" narrower, and you have about 2" of shared space between you and your seat mate next to you, whereas PE has much more personal space.
16A/C, J/L also have considerable legroom. And at some point, how much legroom does one need?
But... YMMV.
16A/C, J/L also have considerable legroom. And at some point, how much legroom does one need?
But... YMMV.
Nov 2, 2018, 12:26 pm
#789
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, DL, AS, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 2,404
I can only speak for myself because I'm 6 ft/180cm tall and not very wide... the extra width on PE seat is nice but I rather have the leg room on long haul. I've never been in Row 16 but my experience with non-exit row PE is kind of meh.
Nov 4, 2018, 9:06 am
#790
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA & DL / SPG & HGP
Posts: 1,723
Exactly my opinion. I always take exit row over any PE/E+/Comfort offering, extra pitch always over extra width for me (but then I'm not wide).
Nov 15, 2018, 6:53 pm
#791
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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Posts: 11,644
I am torn between choosing 32A or 31L. Do both of these rows 31 and 32 recline?
I usually prefer the exit row window and put my rolling tote as a footstool that works amazingly, here I see the exit door protrusion but it seems slight, I should still be able to use my tote as footstool, methinks...Or I can use it in 32A, but it may not have enough space for a real stretch...Opinions? I am average height.
I usually prefer the exit row window and put my rolling tote as a footstool that works amazingly, here I see the exit door protrusion but it seems slight, I should still be able to use my tote as footstool, methinks...Or I can use it in 32A, but it may not have enough space for a real stretch...Opinions? I am average height.
Last edited by nk15; Nov 15, 2018 at 7:11 pm
Nov 30, 2018, 8:05 pm
#792
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,035
The wiki is wrong?
I picked 32D for now and waiting for SWU to clear... i guess it has extra leg room but only 171. width?
which seat have both width and pitch? (row 20?)
I picked 32D for now and waiting for SWU to clear... i guess it has extra leg room but only 171. width?
which seat have both width and pitch? (row 20?)
Dec 21, 2018, 6:41 pm
#794
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, DL, AS, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 2,404
I am torn between choosing 32A or 31L. Do both of these rows 31 and 32 recline?
I usually prefer the exit row window and put my rolling tote as a footstool that works amazingly, here I see the exit door protrusion but it seems slight, I should still be able to use my tote as footstool, methinks...Or I can use it in 32A, but it may not have enough space for a real stretch...Opinions? I am average height.
I usually prefer the exit row window and put my rolling tote as a footstool that works amazingly, here I see the exit door protrusion but it seems slight, I should still be able to use my tote as footstool, methinks...Or I can use it in 32A, but it may not have enough space for a real stretch...Opinions? I am average height.
My personal opinion is the door protrusion disqualifies it as MCE but some people probably won't mind.
Dec 21, 2018, 6:49 pm
#795
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, DL, AS, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 2,404
Last edited by bzcat; Dec 21, 2018 at 6:56 pm